Enforcement of NQT's for National Championships

Has the Championship Committee, or other entity within USMS ever discussed having a more strict policy of enforcement in regards to the NQT's? Why do we state that you must have 3 cuts, in order to swim more events? Why not require a swimmer to have 6 cuts in order to swim 6 events? Just like to understand more from a historical point of view. I have read post that asked, or suggested how to control the size and length of the National meets. Would not having a stricter enforcement of this policy help? Or would it cause swimmers to shy away from these meets? Just a curious thought. Thank you.
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    Originally posted by kaelonj ... As for Ion, following your rhetoric I would be justified in petitioning the PGA in order to play on the tour with Tiger Woods. The reason he is better than me is because he has the unfair advantage of learning to play when... ... Jeff Jeff, you miss my point. My point is: when the USMS doesn't make someone from zero into a NQT qualifier, then USMS is relying on backgrounds different than the USMS background in order to make NQTs. Indeed, when Ransom made USMS, his mission was to carry on the competing from the age-group swimming background into USMS for adults. If USMS was staying with this mission, then strict NQTs are to do. After inception, USMS became inclusive of the non age-group swimming background. Inclusive of the non age-group swimming background at the Nationals, means that non age-group swimmers who get just the USMS for background in swimming and thus don't make NQTs, they get three mercy events. Also, inclusive means that very good swimmers with an age-group swimming background but who still don't make NQTs (and very good swimmers like this are numerous in USMS), they get three mercy events at the USMS Nationals. Your comparison with golf by Woods, would be like a comparison with swimming for Olympics: golf by Woods and swimming for Olympics both are not inclusive, they are elite level activities that are exclusive, because it doesn't matter to them how one became amongst the best but it matters to them whether one is amongst the best. Originally posted by cinc310 I don't think Ion is a breastroker since he has swam for over 20 years and doesn't like the stroke. ... Maybe, he could try back but I never heard of him swimming that. .) Indeed Cynthia, I am not a brestroker: brestroke is too much technique, for the slowest stroke out of four. .) I swim in clubs for sixteen years, since October 1986. .) Ten days ago I did the 50 meter backstroke leg in a relay competition. I don't get disqualified when there are no backstroke turns, like it was in this 50 meter pool.
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    Originally posted by kaelonj ... As for Ion, following your rhetoric I would be justified in petitioning the PGA in order to play on the tour with Tiger Woods. The reason he is better than me is because he has the unfair advantage of learning to play when... ... Jeff Jeff, you miss my point. My point is: when the USMS doesn't make someone from zero into a NQT qualifier, then USMS is relying on backgrounds different than the USMS background in order to make NQTs. Indeed, when Ransom made USMS, his mission was to carry on the competing from the age-group swimming background into USMS for adults. If USMS was staying with this mission, then strict NQTs are to do. After inception, USMS became inclusive of the non age-group swimming background. Inclusive of the non age-group swimming background at the Nationals, means that non age-group swimmers who get just the USMS for background in swimming and thus don't make NQTs, they get three mercy events. Also, inclusive means that very good swimmers with an age-group swimming background but who still don't make NQTs (and very good swimmers like this are numerous in USMS), they get three mercy events at the USMS Nationals. Your comparison with golf by Woods, would be like a comparison with swimming for Olympics: golf by Woods and swimming for Olympics both are not inclusive, they are elite level activities that are exclusive, because it doesn't matter to them how one became amongst the best but it matters to them whether one is amongst the best. Originally posted by cinc310 I don't think Ion is a breastroker since he has swam for over 20 years and doesn't like the stroke. ... Maybe, he could try back but I never heard of him swimming that. .) Indeed Cynthia, I am not a brestroker: brestroke is too much technique, for the slowest stroke out of four. .) I swim in clubs for sixteen years, since October 1986. .) Ten days ago I did the 50 meter backstroke leg in a relay competition. I don't get disqualified when there are no backstroke turns, like it was in this 50 meter pool.
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