Enforcement of NQT's for National Championships

Has the Championship Committee, or other entity within USMS ever discussed having a more strict policy of enforcement in regards to the NQT's? Why do we state that you must have 3 cuts, in order to swim more events? Why not require a swimmer to have 6 cuts in order to swim 6 events? Just like to understand more from a historical point of view. I have read post that asked, or suggested how to control the size and length of the National meets. Would not having a stricter enforcement of this policy help? Or would it cause swimmers to shy away from these meets? Just a curious thought. Thank you.
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    We rehearse again the same songs, until we learn. I have patience for a few more thousands plays: Originally posted by Gail Roper ... I think Ion can make it, ... ... Not the NQTs for men ages 40 to 44, as a late starter. In a post last August, I stated that the NQTs for men ages 40 to 44 in the 2002 Long Course Nationals are the fastest times in the entire meet in six events out of seveteen. These are the fastest men NQTs in the entire meet -i.e.: all men age groups-, in 35% of events. So the NQTs of men 40 to 44, dominate the 2002 Long Course Nationals. You are not in this situation to know it: when you are a man, age 40 to 44, late starter, make them then tell me more; I know about who makes NQTs in men 40 to 44 one by one, and found that they developed their USMS NQTs as pre-USMS age-groupers, and stayed in shape in USMS; I don't see men ages 40 to 44, late starters who make NQTs across U.S.. As a late starter, I am making it well: .) in the 2003 Short Course Nationals, I swam my lifetime second best in the 100 free in 58.40; (mind you, my lifetime best for the 100 meters free Long Course is 1:04.63, which would convert into a 100 yards free in about 57.20, not my 58.11 from 1994). .) in April 2003, it was 12:25 in the 1000 free. To me, these times are making it. Originally posted by Gail Roper ...but he needs a lot of stroke work and the correct training. ... Again: .) workouts in USMS clubs across the U.S. are overwhelmingly not focusing on preparing to race in USMS competitions; .) I trust a program now to prepare me for USMS competitions, but I don't know what surprises might happen; .) the key in swimming is VO2Max as in swimming cardiovascular, and developing it when older -which I do- is more challenging. Originally posted by Gail Roper ... It should be clear by now that 10,000 yards per day doesn't work. It is clear to you. Ask competitive coaches, like Mark Schubert, what is clear in swimming when preparing Erik Vendt in 2003 and Brian Goodell in 1976 for the 1000 free. Originally posted by kaelonj Okay by now most of us (if not all of us) knows how Ion feels cheated in life because he didn't start swimming until after his teenage years, when if he swam his swimming specific VO2 sytem would have developed better making him a faster swimmer. ... No: I force the situation. Originally posted by kaelonj ... In regards to Ion's statements about how someone who didn't swim as a teenager would never be able to compete at an elite or even semi-elite level, and that his times are an incredible feat. ... Have you ever seen documented evidence of a strict late starter from level zero past teenage years who later on makes the Olympic Qualifying Times 'A' or 'B'? It doesn't exist, no matter the money. Meaning there is physiological limitation in late starting. Originally posted by kaelonj ... The fact is Ion, I did not swim as a teenager - I stopped swimming when I was about 11 and didn't start swimming back again until I was in college at 20 (about a 9 year lay off). True I did swim lessons and even swam for a few years on a club team prior to my teenage years,... You got the non compliance with a late start from level zero past teenage years, righ here. I explained the compliance, in a post on the previous page.
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    We rehearse again the same songs, until we learn. I have patience for a few more thousands plays: Originally posted by Gail Roper ... I think Ion can make it, ... ... Not the NQTs for men ages 40 to 44, as a late starter. In a post last August, I stated that the NQTs for men ages 40 to 44 in the 2002 Long Course Nationals are the fastest times in the entire meet in six events out of seveteen. These are the fastest men NQTs in the entire meet -i.e.: all men age groups-, in 35% of events. So the NQTs of men 40 to 44, dominate the 2002 Long Course Nationals. You are not in this situation to know it: when you are a man, age 40 to 44, late starter, make them then tell me more; I know about who makes NQTs in men 40 to 44 one by one, and found that they developed their USMS NQTs as pre-USMS age-groupers, and stayed in shape in USMS; I don't see men ages 40 to 44, late starters who make NQTs across U.S.. As a late starter, I am making it well: .) in the 2003 Short Course Nationals, I swam my lifetime second best in the 100 free in 58.40; (mind you, my lifetime best for the 100 meters free Long Course is 1:04.63, which would convert into a 100 yards free in about 57.20, not my 58.11 from 1994). .) in April 2003, it was 12:25 in the 1000 free. To me, these times are making it. Originally posted by Gail Roper ...but he needs a lot of stroke work and the correct training. ... Again: .) workouts in USMS clubs across the U.S. are overwhelmingly not focusing on preparing to race in USMS competitions; .) I trust a program now to prepare me for USMS competitions, but I don't know what surprises might happen; .) the key in swimming is VO2Max as in swimming cardiovascular, and developing it when older -which I do- is more challenging. Originally posted by Gail Roper ... It should be clear by now that 10,000 yards per day doesn't work. It is clear to you. Ask competitive coaches, like Mark Schubert, what is clear in swimming when preparing Erik Vendt in 2003 and Brian Goodell in 1976 for the 1000 free. Originally posted by kaelonj Okay by now most of us (if not all of us) knows how Ion feels cheated in life because he didn't start swimming until after his teenage years, when if he swam his swimming specific VO2 sytem would have developed better making him a faster swimmer. ... No: I force the situation. Originally posted by kaelonj ... In regards to Ion's statements about how someone who didn't swim as a teenager would never be able to compete at an elite or even semi-elite level, and that his times are an incredible feat. ... Have you ever seen documented evidence of a strict late starter from level zero past teenage years who later on makes the Olympic Qualifying Times 'A' or 'B'? It doesn't exist, no matter the money. Meaning there is physiological limitation in late starting. Originally posted by kaelonj ... The fact is Ion, I did not swim as a teenager - I stopped swimming when I was about 11 and didn't start swimming back again until I was in college at 20 (about a 9 year lay off). True I did swim lessons and even swam for a few years on a club team prior to my teenage years,... You got the non compliance with a late start from level zero past teenage years, righ here. I explained the compliance, in a post on the previous page.
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