The New Approach to Meets

RE: The New Approach to Meets

no200fly — Fri, 09 Apr 2021 13:11:11 GMT

We are having our South Central Zone Meet(s) in multiple locations to reduce the number of people in any one place with the results to be merged for the overall zone.

"Multi-pool zones champs meet. Results for all locations will be merged after completion of all events. All meets will happen between May 8 - May 16."

The number of entrants is limited for each location and health protocols will be observed.

RE: The New Approach to Meets

Patrick W. Brundage — Thu, 28 Jan 2021 12:20:35 GMT

Looks like they're moving "Spring" Nats to July, and "Summer" Nats to October. I'm kind of excited, good chance I will be vaccinated by then, and I think my July calendar looks pretty good to be able to go to that one. Plus a few extra months to after it took awhile to get back in full shape from the shutdowns.This is good from my point of view. It will be great if both happen and if I can get a vaccine before the "spring" event.

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Jeff Enge — Thu, 28 Jan 2021 12:04:00 GMT

Looks like they're moving "Spring" Nats to July, and "Summer" Nats to October. I'm kind of excited, good chance I will be vaccinated by then, and I think my July calendar looks pretty good to be able to go to that one. Plus a few extra months after it took awhile to get back in full shape from the shutdowns.

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Allen Stark — Thu, 28 Jan 2021 01:22:56 GMT

This is great news. Are they going to move the Top Ten deadlines to accomodate this, or will SCY Nats and LCM Nats count for 2022 instead?

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orca1946 — Sun, 24 Jan 2021 01:01:31 GMT

Starting Jan. 24th , the local pool will allow our team 16 swimmers at a time to practice.

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Sojerz — Sat, 23 Jan 2021 08:43:53 GMT

I'm 71 and have been out of the pool since mid-march 2020. My hypothesis is that a chlorinated pool environment with a reasonable number of people is safe, but that's just a hypothesis with no proof that I'm aware of beyond anecdotal evidence. By early Feb. I will have had my second dose of vaccine (feeling very lucky) and my plan is to get back into the pool for the first time swimming solo 2-3 weeks later around the end of the month. First swimming solo at pool where i need to reserve a lane for 45 min. at a time. I want to get back in shape before rejoining a masters team. Our GPAC masters team collapsed back in March and our 50m pool has been closed anyway for HVAC renovations that ran much longer than expected due to COVID. I'm not sure if the masters practices will restart as the coach moved on. The Sr AGers at GPAC have been swimming outside with pool heaters and may just now be getting back into our indoor 50m GCIT pool. If its not available for masters, I'll try to join another masters program (SJAC) that's on the way in to work. Meets seem like a distant past, and I'm not sure when i would feel ok to be on a crowded pool deck in that environment. Seems unlikely for me until fall, even with a vax. So much remains unknown, especially about variants. So..."playing it by ear." Take care and be safe going forward - wishing all good health Bill

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orca1946 — Tue, 19 Jan 2021 10:36:53 GMT

The pro meets are very small compared to what a "local" meet would bring in but, it is an idea that could be a working edition of something that we would be able to use.

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Patrick W. Brundage — Sat, 16 Jan 2021 05:35:26 GMT

Thinking outside the box right now....What about an event consisting of inter squads/local/county-wide, LMSC meets for a distanced National Championship? Realize that all pools are not created equal, but at least we would be able to celebrate the accomplishments of our members. Better than nothing at all. Meets have been happening in small venues, so why not make the results national results? Just thinking out loud, but Iâ€™d really hate to think that we might miss another National Championship. Maybe the competitive events could go â€œPostal?â€If you look at what USA Swimming is doing with some of their big meets (e.g., Pro Swim Series going on right now), that could work for Nationals - host the same meet / order of events the same weekend at a number of venues around the country, integrate the results on the backend. That could work to reduce numbers of people in attendance, need to travel, etc. I just don't know if the economics work for meet hosts / pool rentals / etc.

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orca1946 — Fri, 15 Jan 2021 11:24:06 GMT

Redbird & Chris -- totally agree with your statements. We all need to protect ourselves from this covid plague.

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swoomer — Fri, 15 Jan 2021 07:02:21 GMT

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Patrick W. Brundage — Thu, 14 Jan 2021 06:40:15 GMT

We have to remember that vaccination only protects the vaccinated. It does not mean the vaccinated are not still carriers of the virus.Totally agreed; which is why I would think everyone entering the venue, competitor or otherwise, would need to show proof of vaccination. Unfortunately, I think we are going to be masked/distanced through the next summer/winer season.Totally agree. It's a small price to pay for our freedom to associate, our ability to be together, commiserate and compete like the good old days.

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Redbird Alum — Wed, 13 Jan 2021 11:24:26 GMT

... consider COVID protocols like requiring negative tests or proof of vaccination to swim We have to remember that vaccination only protects the vaccinated. It does not mean the vaccinated are not still carriers of the virus. Unfortunately, I think we are going to be masked/distanced through the next summer/winer season.

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orca1946 — Sat, 09 Jan 2021 12:34:03 GMT

Just a thought --- Move S C Nationals to the fall?

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Patrick W. Brundage — Sat, 09 Jan 2021 06:26:57 GMT

Just a thought --- Move S C Nationals to the fall?I doubt that would happen. I'd say let's just rally around Spire Institute for LCM Nationals. Hopefully, vaccinations will be sufficiently rolled out by that point and that also gives the organizing committee time consider COVID protocols like requiring negative tests or proof of vaccination to swim reduced / bare minimum of officals on deck purely automatic timing / no need for timers mix of outdoor and indoor seating to create room for physical distancing staging areas for heats so that relatively few people are in the pool area at any time possibly an extended number of days to allow for the slower running of the meet ... what else?

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Karl_S — Sat, 09 Jan 2021 05:50:34 GMT

...Yes, I get that people can decide for themselves but a "national" event encourages travel from afar and the risks aren't limited to just participants. ... Exactly, "freedom" does not extend to the freedom to accept risk for other people.

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orca1946 — Thu, 07 Jan 2021 12:19:50 GMT

With Covid still rampant, I do not see State or S C Nationals on the horizon for us.

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Chris Stevenson — Thu, 07 Jan 2021 02:26:07 GMT

With Covid still rampant, I do not see State or S C Nationals on the horizon for us. I was wondering about nationals too. It is hard to see it happening, that's a whole different ballgame (lots of travel, hotel, etc) than small local meets that are often limited to a single club. Yes, I get that people can decide for themselves but a "national" event encourages travel from afar and the risks aren't limited to just participants. And if you limit the scope (number of participants, how far they can travel, or whatever) then I'm not sure it is properly a "nationals" event. Glad I don't have to make that call. :-)

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swoomer — Wed, 06 Jan 2021 10:30:50 GMT

Thatâ€™s a really cogent response Chris.

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Calvin S — Tue, 01 Dec 2020 07:59:32 GMT

no need to pee in the pool. what if coach won't let me out to go to the bathroom? Also have to agree with your sentiment. Congrats to those lucky enough to get to swim in a meet and get on the list.

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Chris Stevenson — Tue, 01 Dec 2020 05:10:23 GMT

Honestly I don't get the pushback against publishing Top 10 lists. Yes most people couldn't compete, many couldn't even do swim practice for extended periods. So how does it hurt you that a handful managed to do so, and that they will make Top 10 when normally they wouldn't? Do you think they are somehow unaware that it was easier this year? This is masters. There is plenty of fun to go around, no need to pee in the pool.

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orca1946 — Tue, 01 Dec 2020 01:07:09 GMT

Don't pee in my pool or NO top ten for you!

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Allen Stark — Sat, 28 Nov 2020 10:57:54 GMT

Crap...you are right Allen! If we have a SCY season it will be my last meet in this age group before he ages up

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Glenn — Sat, 28 Nov 2020 10:49:08 GMT

If we have a LCM Nationals he will be. Crap...you are right Allen!

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Allen Stark — Sat, 28 Nov 2020 09:12:27 GMT

If we have a LCM Nationals he will be.

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Glenn — Sat, 28 Nov 2020 09:03:57 GMT

Well, at least Rick Colellaâ€™s times are still incredibly legit. ðŸ˜‚ Thankfully, for now, he is not in my age group!