https://community.usms.org/swimming/f/pool-training-and-technique/33227/breaststroke-pulloutI&#39;ve been doing my pullouts with a dolphin kick placed before the pulldown. The problem with that is, it takes effort and mindfulness not to create any reactionary small undulation caused by a strong pulldown. I&#39;ve been trying to do my dolphin kick withen-USTelligent Community 12https://community.usms.org/thread/299235?ContentTypeID=1Tue, 05 May 2026 17:30:16 GMT3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:237fa05d-a089-4426-89da-748d123461cfBettyL<p>Agree it&#39;s hard to answer my question without video. &nbsp;I swam 100 and 200 breast at Nationals last weekend without any DQ, but I have to say, when I get winded I end up skipping pullouts on the back half. &nbsp;</p><div style="clear:both;"></div>https://community.usms.org/thread/299232?ContentTypeID=1Tue, 05 May 2026 13:49:24 GMT3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:9d0e759a-4bb4-45a6-a35b-49455bd3e216Allen Stark<p>This is a little hard to answer without seeing what you&rsquo;re doing. Could you post a video. When I first added the early dolphin kick to my pullout the rule was you had to start your pull by separating your arms before the dolphin kick. Now you don&rsquo;t have to do that, but I found that doing a large dolphin kick and then immediately starting the pull made me much much less &nbsp;likely to undulate during the pull. How soon after the kick are you initiating your pull.&nbsp;<br />as to the question of arguing the undulation is a natural part of the pull down, that would be dependent upon the stroke judge. Back when no dolphin kick was allowed I have lost that argument with the stroke. Judge</p><div style="clear:both;"></div>