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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://community.usms.org/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Smart Watches for Pool and Open Water</title><link>https://community.usms.org/swimming/f/open-water-training-and-technique/25905/smart-watches-for-pool-and-open-water</link><description>I&amp;#39;ve been relatively happy with my Garmin 920xt for the last four years, but looking to upgrade. What are the favorite Smart Watches on the market today?

I am primarily interested for pool and open water training (and events), and it would be great to</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 12</generator><item><title>RE: Smart Watches for Pool and Open Water</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/273266?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2020 10:50:14 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:65346644-ccfc-405f-a2cb-7f2adce2984d</guid><dc:creator>Lyn</dc:creator><description>Just following up with my experience with the Apple Watch for open water swims.  The watch works well, links easily to Strava and other sites so you can see your map and stats.  But it has a major flaw in that the battery only lasts 5.5 hours with the GPS on.  This happened in my watch and in the watch of a friend with a barely week old watch.  Very disappointing. 
It&amp;#39;s possible that if I turned off all other services it would last longer, will test that out next time I&amp;#39;m in for a long day.

Lyn&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Smart Watches for Pool and Open Water</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/273225?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2020 12:58:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:27c2b6f3-3ad8-4c4d-b697-ac613e1a31df</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I have Garmin Swim 2, I have had it for about 5 months - like it but Garmin support isnâ€&lt;span class="emoticon" data-url="https://community.usms.org/cfs-file/__key/system/emoji/2122.svg" title="Tm"&gt;&amp;#x2122;&lt;/span&gt;t the best. Useful for the pool, handy way of recording splits. Don&amp;#39;t bother with the autolap feature.It can be set to automatic rest if you are doing intervals which is nice.
Three complaints: 1)In open water it overcounts stroke work. 2) In lap swimming it doesnâ€&lt;span class="emoticon" data-url="https://community.usms.org/cfs-file/__key/system/emoji/2122.svg" title="Tm"&gt;&amp;#x2122;&lt;/span&gt;t count kicking with a board. 3) In laps it sometimes counts flipturns as extra yardage.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Smart Watches for Pool and Open Water</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/273261?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2020 09:51:07 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:4863f51a-efb4-4f80-a39e-646bcbc7a75b</guid><dc:creator>67King</dc:creator><description>You can customize the data that is shown on each screen.  I just got mine and am not an expert, but I set my second &amp;#39;data screen&amp;#39; for Open Water to show three fields - distance, elapsed time and heart rate. 

That would be perfect.  I did go ahead and grab one, used it Thursday night in an open water swim.  I would like to see for pool swimming just heart rate and timer (i.e. interval/countdown timer).  Unfortunately, I can&amp;#39;t seem to figure out this, only the presets.  And I really don&amp;#39;t care how many steps per day I take!  Especially since I only wear it when I swim.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Smart Watches for Pool and Open Water</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/273185?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2020 12:59:17 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:9603a25a-5578-4feb-8491-124dde514a09</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I haven&amp;#39;t tested it in the pool (thank you, COVID-19).  It does seem accurate as far as HR goes.  The main screen (open water swimming) shows time and distance, but I think you can scroll to HR.  It buzzes and chirps every 500yds. I have been having some issues with it accurately tracking my in-water distance, but I&amp;#39;m going to play around with it - I wonder if it&amp;#39;s confused when I switch strokes.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Smart Watches for Pool and Open Water</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/273220?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2020 10:48:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:0ccfe892-1ec1-4b99-b8d6-9aa9e80a9e66</guid><dc:creator>Patrick W. Brundage</dc:creator><description>Question for those with the Garmin Swim 2.  Here are the things I&amp;#39;d like to have:
1.  Distance in open water swims
2.  Real time heart rate monitor
3.  COuntdown timer (for intervals in teh pool)

If I could show 2 and 3 at the same time, I&amp;#39;d be beyond stoked. You can customize the data that is shown on each screen.  I just got mine and am not an expert, but I set my second &amp;#39;data screen&amp;#39; for Open Water to show three fields - distance, elapsed time and heart rate. 

I think I just googled and found either the Garmin user guide/online help, or a video to show me how to change the data fields.  

As for the accuracy of each distance measured and heart rate, I&amp;#39;m not sure yet.  I have no sense of what my pace should be in open water, especially after having been out of the water for 2-3 months, but it seems reasonable in terms of the distance&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Smart Watches for Pool and Open Water</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/273181?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2020 05:17:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:5e7fd0db-e151-4814-947f-d595dc19357a</guid><dc:creator>67King</dc:creator><description>Question for those with the Garmin Swim 2.  Here are the things I&amp;#39;d like to have:
1.  Distance in open water swims
2.  Real time heart rate monitor
3.  COuntdown timer (for intervals in teh pool)

If I could show 2 and 3 at the same time, I&amp;#39;d be beyond stoked.  I had just given up on finding that after having looked for a long time, and either not being able to find one, or not being able to find a salesperson who knew enough to tell me how to set up one to do that.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Smart Watches for Pool and Open Water</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/273177?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2020 06:14:25 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:fa844a61-8f50-4ec5-8792-6e44a4a98834</guid><dc:creator>Patrick W. Brundage</dc:creator><description>PWB, have you had enough use with your swim 2 to comment on its accuracy and precision related to calculated data yet?

Not only for logging info for OW swims, but Iâ€&lt;span class="emoticon" data-url="https://community.usms.org/cfs-file/__key/system/emoji/2122.svg" title="Tm"&gt;&amp;#x2122;&lt;/span&gt;ve been looking for a device which would provide quite specific details within a pool workout. For instance, a set of all out 25â€&lt;span class="emoticon" data-url="https://community.usms.org/cfs-file/__key/system/emoji/2122.svg" title="Tm"&gt;&amp;#x2122;&lt;/span&gt;s that can graphically represent velocity or distance vs time.Unfortunately, our pools aren&amp;#39;t open here yet, so I can&amp;#39;t yet comment on how well it works in the pool.  

I do quite enjoy it, though, in open water, but have yet to swim on any &amp;#39;marked distance&amp;#39; course, so I also can&amp;#39;t comment on its accuracy there.  It seems realistic in the OW.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Smart Watches for Pool and Open Water</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/273173?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2020 04:40:43 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:6255b07c-0df7-4f75-bbbf-1a6b1130cbfb</guid><dc:creator>__steve__</dc:creator><description>PWB, have you had enough use with your swim 2 to comment on its accuracy and precision related to calculated data yet?

Not only for logging info for OW swims, but Iâ€&lt;span class="emoticon" data-url="https://community.usms.org/cfs-file/__key/system/emoji/2122.svg" title="Tm"&gt;&amp;#x2122;&lt;/span&gt;ve been looking for a device which would provide quite specific details within a pool workout. For instance, a set of all out 25â€&lt;span class="emoticon" data-url="https://community.usms.org/cfs-file/__key/system/emoji/2122.svg" title="Tm"&gt;&amp;#x2122;&lt;/span&gt;s that can graphically represent velocity or distance vs time.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Smart Watches for Pool and Open Water</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/273168?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2020 06:07:53 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:7c437ec4-60b4-4b92-9c11-3ca432580937</guid><dc:creator>Patrick W. Brundage</dc:creator><description>I just got the swim2 and I&amp;#39;m itching to get it in the water. In the meantime, what&amp;#39;s the durability been like for you? Any software issues?  Favorite/least favorite aspects?I just got my Garmin Swim 2 last week, luckily a day or two before I finally found a lake that&amp;#39;s warm enough for me to swim in.  I&amp;#39;ve now done three swims (2km, 2.5km, 2.5km) in a lake and here are my initial impressions:

Display is great and I love the options to flex the metrics.
I&amp;#39;ve always hated swimming with a watch, but this band fits snugly and the profile is slim enough that I really don&amp;#39;t mind it.
I can&amp;#39;t comment on how accurate the GPS measurements are, but the times compared to the distance seem to make sense.
I&amp;#39;m a huge data geek and LOVE the display and metrics that are available in the Garmin Connect.  I use the website version, though, and really just have the app on my phone so I can synch.
As a watch, it&amp;#39;s also fine so, when I&amp;#39;m allowed to go back out in the world and meet people in business meetings, I&amp;#39;ll wear it to do this crazy thing called, &amp;quot;show me what time it is&amp;quot;
With that said, I really wish Garmin would do away with the silly SWOLF score.  Real swimmers don&amp;#39;t SWOLF.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Smart Watches for Pool and Open Water</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/273146?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2020 11:39:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:081b882e-81d0-4756-a6fb-6ac18ac3f59f</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I like the Garmin Swim 2. I has tested (reall test) polar vantage, fenix 5, apple watch, samsung galaxy active, polar v800) and for me is the best watch for swimmers, it have: pool swim, open water, drill mode, wrist hr, several swim metrics, and you can run, bike and other sports, important: it isnt expensive. Also forerunner 945/fenix 6 are good multisport watches, but they&amp;#39;re more expensive.

I just got the swim2 and I&amp;#39;m itching to get it in the water. In the meantime, what&amp;#39;s the durability been like for you? Any software issues?  Favorite/least favorite aspects?&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Smart Watches for Pool and Open Water</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/273126?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2020 15:47:49 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:73ba0c7a-4a1e-460d-a9f1-d7c95bf6f473</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I like the Garmin Swim 2. I has tested (reall test) polar vantage, fenix 5/5X, apple watch, samsung galaxy active, polar v800) and for me is the best watch for swimmers, it have: pool swim, open water, drill mode, wrist hr, several swim metrics, and you can run, bike and other sports, important: it isnt expensive. Also forerunner 945/fenix 6 are good multisport watches, but they&amp;#39;re more expensive.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Smart Watches for Pool and Open Water</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/273124?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 19 Feb 2020 16:35:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:930ea6ce-e866-4f87-afba-53cb661d6dab</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I agree with staying away from fitbit for swimming.  I have a fitbit versa, and it doesn&amp;#39;t do a very good job of keeping track of how much you are swimming.  It is based only on arm movement.  It also can&amp;#39;t track heart rate in water.  I do like the watch for everything else though.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Smart Watches for Pool and Open Water</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/273123?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 19 Feb 2020 10:31:55 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:c96215d4-c5d5-4a9e-9a73-139db0d5e571</guid><dc:creator>tjrpatt</dc:creator><description>Do not get the fitbit Ionic. Their customer Service is good but, the watches suck. I am trying to get a year out of it. Fitbit had to replace my watch three times because the swim tracker would die or stop counting floors. So far, every few problems. Although, it seems sensitive to swimming pool turbulence. The next one is the Apple Watch or Garmin. When I swim with it, I wonder if it is going to work right today. My friend at my Y said that his would shut down for three days and then, work again randomly. Stay away from fitbit. They have good customer service and they put out the expensive to replace three watches at no cost to me.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Smart Watches for Pool and Open Water</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/273109?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 12 Feb 2020 16:36:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:6ba3d2f5-ca1e-495e-8921-e78a4bb571a0</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I like the Garmin Instinct. It can do both pool and open water--without the expense of the traditional multi-sport watches.

For kick sets and other non-arm-rotation sets, I use the Drill mode to log distances.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Smart Watches for Pool and Open Water</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/273054?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 11 Feb 2020 15:55:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:191a3c01-a9c5-4248-b961-afc41c1abd70</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>There is a headset free smart tracker called Beker Pro claiming to be the world&amp;#39;s only of its kind. Launched on Kickstarter a couple months ago and was funded and is now on Indiegogo. Looks pretty cool. Supposed to ship in April. &lt;a href="https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/galerdo-headset-free-ai-audio-tracker-for-swimmers#/"&gt;www.indiegogo.com/.../galerdo-headset-free-ai-audio-tracker-for-swimmers&lt;/a&gt; Has anyone seen this?&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Smart Watches for Pool and Open Water</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/273050?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 11 Feb 2020 02:59:33 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:bfd047f6-3e47-4f6a-a725-e66ddacb591f</guid><dc:creator>aztimm</dc:creator><description>I&amp;#39;ve had 2 Garmins, they both died young.  Then I tried a Suunto Ambit, I still have it, but it&amp;#39;s huge and heavy and not intuitive to use. 

I recently bought an Apple Watch and love it for pool swimming.  I bought it in December so I&amp;#39;m not sure yet how it will do for open water, I&amp;#39;m a bit concerned about its battery life.  It does have a heart rate function, actually a very basic ECG function, but that data isn&amp;#39;t downloaded into the app I use.  There&amp;#39;s probably a way to do it, I just don&amp;#39;t know how or care to know (beta blockers on board).  Not sure about temp.

I&amp;#39;ve had 2 versions of the Apple Watch that I&amp;#39;ve used for swimming for a little over 3 years now.  The first version that could go in the water (v2) did have some battery issues, but the later one that I have (v4) is much better.  There still are a few times when I&amp;#39;ll use the GPS for walking/hiking and then swim, when the watch will be nearly depleted afterward.  Throw in a few, &amp;quot;mindful minutes,&amp;quot; and it only adds to that.

That said, I was a big Garmin user when I ran marathons and cycled tours years ago, and the Garmin devices I used were not without issues.  It was quite common for the device to lose a charge, not charge, get locked up, have issues with HR, and I can go on.  Yes the Apple Watch sometimes does have things that pop up, but between the two it is definitely my preferred device.

I typically charge my watch overnight and swim early in the day, and have never had a battery issue during a swim.  It has lasted the whole time through ~10 miles, without any issues.  If I&amp;#39;m planning a late day swim (such as Roosevelt of SCAR), I&amp;#39;ll charge during the day so it is nearly full when I begin.  When I swim at a venue like Barton Springs (here in Austin), the watch will often over-calculate my distance (when put in o/w swim mode), because I&amp;#39;m assuming it uses cell towers.  When I look at the map afterwards, it will sometimes map me well out of the water (I have heard Garmin devices can do similar).  But for typical looped or point-to-point courses, the Apple Watch works quite well.

As you noted, there are many non-fitness functions on the Apple Watch as well.  Last summer the watch gave me an alert about AFib--I ran an ECG, called my PCP, had a real EKG conducted, and was referred to a cardiologist for treatment.  Yea that would have eventually gotten caught, but the watch alert made everything happen much faster.
There are many different news applications, travel applications (such as airlines and hotels), you can send/receive texts (I sometimes get text alerts when I&amp;#39;m swimming), Facebook Messenger, you can even receive phone calls (on some versions you can make phone calls too).  

As for reviewing/sharing your workouts, the Apple Watch is a bit klunky.  Unless there&amp;#39;s a method I&amp;#39;m not aware of, you need to use the app on your phone, and take screenshots for sharing.  Garmin did have a rather robust website where you could connect with other users, and simply copy/paste links for sharing.  So on that end, Garmin definitely wins right now.

Neither product is 100% perfect, but the Apple Watch is my preferred device right now.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Smart Watches for Pool and Open Water</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/273047?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 10 Feb 2020 04:43:13 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:5f9ad8c8-febb-4160-9b79-b7776602aca6</guid><dc:creator>Lyn</dc:creator><description>I&amp;#39;ve had 2 Garmins, they both died young.  Then I tried a Suunto Ambit, I still have it, but it&amp;#39;s huge and heavy and not intuitive to use. 

I recently bought an Apple Watch and love it for pool swimming.  I bought it in December so I&amp;#39;m not sure yet how it will do for open water, I&amp;#39;m a bit concerned about its battery life.  It does have a heart rate function, actually a very basic ECG function, but that data isn&amp;#39;t downloaded into the app I use.  There&amp;#39;s probably a way to do it, I just don&amp;#39;t know how or care to know (beta blockers on board).  Not sure about temp.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Smart Watches for Pool and Open Water</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/273044?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 08 Feb 2020 04:22:32 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:327c5bf4-d2ed-467e-95ba-c316af477117</guid><dc:creator>stpeters00</dc:creator><description>I like my Garmin fenix 6S.  It has a built-in wrist heart rate monitor that works when swimming and a temperature gauge.  The gauge measures the watch temp, which is affected by body heat.  My fenix 6S often automatically uploads my swim to Garmin Connect via the YMCA&amp;#39;s WiFi before I even get out of the pool.  (Note that if you want WiFI connectivity, you need to buy  the sapphire edition.)&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>