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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://community.usms.org/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Structuring Long Swims in Training</title><link>https://community.usms.org/swimming/f/open-water-training-and-technique/25279/structuring-long-swims-in-training</link><description>What do you do (or suggest doing) for long swims in training? My weekly long swim is currently over 10,000m and 3 hours (and increasing).

I don&amp;#39;t have a regulation pool I can go to here; currently I&amp;#39;m doing the long swim at a hotel on the beach that</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 12</generator><item><title>RE: Structuring Long Swims in Training</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/269331?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 15:22:36 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:23eb73a3-3c10-4796-bb67-011e0fc3ddf3</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I am complete agreement that I am nuts. No disputing it, but somehow, i need to do that straight yardage for the psychological piece. Today, it was outside but only an hour and 40 minutes. Some days are better than others. 

Also, I do it at my pool at home, when it&amp;#39;s indoors, which makes it even more of a mind over matter issue. Try having the wrong song in your head for a 10000. Ugh! 

But, whatever gets me ready for Lake George next weekend, right? 

And TriAya-good luck with that new pool option! Sounds perfect!

Thanks! and blast it and have a blast at Lake George!&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Structuring Long Swims in Training</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/269316?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2011 05:38:44 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:a4379725-a376-44ca-8b20-a34770fec1b6</guid><dc:creator>sydned</dc:creator><description>I am complete agreement that I am nuts. No disputing it, but somehow, i need to do that straight yardage for the psychological piece. Today, it was outside but only an hour and 40 minutes. Some days are better than others. 

Also, I do it at my pool at home, when it&amp;#39;s indoors, which makes it even more of a mind over matter issue. Try having the wrong song in your head for a 10000. Ugh! 

But, whatever gets me ready for Lake George next weekend, right? 

And TriAya-good luck with that new pool option! Sounds perfect!&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Structuring Long Swims in Training</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/269263?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 16:06:08 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:e2adf637-5b97-4bb1-8465-4b0a96511c8f</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Heh! Thanks for all the replies. Bizarrely and luckily, I actually found a 25m, laned, competition pool near my house in the meanwhile! I might try swimming the next long one straight--for some reason this is never a problem in the ocean but drives me just batty in the pool. Have done 5K straight in the pool before, though ... no breaks ...&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Structuring Long Swims in Training</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/269248?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2011 01:12:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:37e49a65-9ab4-45fb-bdb3-61973b998824</guid><dc:creator>jkormanik</dc:creator><description>I&amp;#39;m actually with Sydned. For the most part, my long swims are just that...long swims. I may...may...through in some accelerations of 75 strokes with 25 strokes moderate, but other than that, I just swim. I have food with my kayaker, so I take quick breaks in the water to feed, but that&amp;#39;s it.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Structuring Long Swims in Training</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/269116?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 14:53:43 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:56db82b3-a9bf-40d5-8f7c-0da7aa2537a4</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I am a swim masochist so my long swims are straight yardage. For me, it&amp;#39;s the best way to train myself to get over the hump that comes at some poont in every open water swim. I take feeding breaks, but other than that, it&amp;#39;s going and going and going. Long ones are typically between 10-15 thousand yards straight, with breaks for feeding every 2250-2500 yards. 
 
Slightly miserable? Yes. But for me, it works. I also figure I get enough variation with my masters practices and non-distance days.
 
Wow! Inspiring! Swim masochist you are, but it works. Maybe I&amp;#39;ll try it. My problem is I begin to sense that I&amp;#39;m putting the lifeguar
d to sleep..or worrying her/him. After the shift change, I feel rejuvenated!:)&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Structuring Long Swims in Training</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/269175?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 14:18:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:d4d1da47-0985-45f2-aa70-15a7ae0ad57c</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>You guys are nuts.  I am signed up for a 5k in a couple of weeks but haven&amp;#39;t done a set longer than 3000m in a pool.  I did one 70 minute lake swim and hope to do one more this weekend and then hope I am all right if I take it easy out there.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Structuring Long Swims in Training</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/269108?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2011 09:53:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:539afd01-5b7c-45ce-ae92-ed1f9f054086</guid><dc:creator>sydned</dc:creator><description>I am a swim masochist so my long swims are straight yardage. For me, it&amp;#39;s the best way to train myself to get over the hump that comes at some poont in every open water swim. I take feeding breaks, but other than that, it&amp;#39;s going and going and going. Long ones are typically between 10-15 thousand yards straight, with breaks for feeding every 2250-2500 yards. 

Slightly miserable? Yes. But for me, it works. I also figure I get enough variation with my masters practices and non-distance days.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Structuring Long Swims in Training</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/269095?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 11:40:53 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:7e2b97dc-78e9-4751-8be9-3fc56c829de7</guid><dc:creator>Kevin in MD</dc:creator><description>I usually structure mine in 30 minute chunks that correspond to the time I would feed in an open water swim.

For me 30 minutes is around 2,000 long course.

So 2 x 2,000 of course, I usually do those early in the workout

a 2,000 where on thew first 100 I do 2 fast strokes, on the 2nd 200 I do 4 fast strokes, on the 3rd 100 I do 6 fast strokes, and so on until I hit 2,000.

Ladders where on the way up I work on focusing on a single specific point of technique, like entries. I call it associating practice. So 100, 200, 300, 400 working on thinking about nothing but that single thing. If my mind starts to drift i bring it back to that one emphasis.

Then i go back down dissociating, practicing distracting myself. Good practice for late in the swim when your shoulders, head, or something else is really painful. I usually pick a song and work on singing it in my head uninterrupted for the whole swim. If I start to think about my stroke or how much something hurts I go right back to the song.

40 x 50 or 10 x 100 are some sets I will do on short rest looking for a good pace.

I&amp;#39;ll do some pulling to change things up as well.

Hopefully you get some other comments soon from others.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>