First open water swim, and I'm terrified!

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Former Member — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 06:16:03 GMT

What open water is near Calexico?? Nearness is relative. I swim in La Jolla Cove...as you very well know!

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FindingMyInnerFish — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 06:46:07 GMT

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Former Member — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:45:41 GMT

Hi, I'm also new to OW swimming. I'm doing my first event on the 20th. I have no illusions about finishing anywhere near the top. Just in it for the fun. I'm taking Grappledunk's advice! What open water is near Calexico??

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Former Member — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 14:51:10 GMT

Your first goal for any open water swim, no matter how experienced you are, should be to finish. That said, there's no shame in not finishing. Just get out there, relax, and have fun. Do what you are capable of doing, and don't worry about everyone else. Good luck! Hi, I'm also new to OW swimming. I'm doing my first event on the 20th. I have no illusions about finishing anywhere near the top. Just in it for the fun. I'm taking Grappledunk's advice!

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orca1946 — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 06:56:27 GMT

All OW swims are different with waves ,current & distance. First of all have fun & look ahead.

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Former Member — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 06:41:42 GMT

Don't start up front, Stay back a bit & follow the group to see where you are . Sight a shore object & have fun. This is great, great advice. Go easy at the start. Many get caught up in the excitement of the start, don't. Find a pack and draft. As the finish line nears begin picking them off, one by one. Good Luck.

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fatboy — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 06:34:08 GMT

Once you have swum a few OW races you will have an idea on where in the pack to start. If you are in the hunt to win, start at the front. If you are not sure, start in the back. I f you are slow and start in the front you will get knocked around at the start. Everyone that is faster than you will pass you. If you start in the back you will find everyone that is slower than you and pass them. Much more fun to pass than to be passed.

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Former Member — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 05:51:56 GMT

No need to be terrified at all. Relax and have fun.

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FindingMyInnerFish — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 11:56:09 GMT

Hi all, I just joined USMS and have committed to doing my first open water swim (1 mile) in two weeks! I'm way out of practice and have just recently gotten back into it. I've been swimming just about every day, but it takes me nearly an hour to swim a mile at the pool. Am I in over my head?!??! Should I be this nervous and scared? I've been told I can do it, but I worry that I can't!? Right now, my goal is to finish...? Haha. Is that reasonable? Any tips from you seasoned (or not!) open water swimmers would be greatly appreciated. Thank you thank you and happy swimming! In 2002, I did my first open water swim--at the time, pretty inexperienced... I was swimming to recover from a running injury and missed competing, so decided to see what I could do in a swim. I belonged to no masters' swim group at the time, but got some advice from my pool lifeguard who was a triathlete (whose main interest was swimming... he'd gone into tri's for variety). Since then I've joined a masters swim group (if you're not in one, I recommend it... you can get some great feedback on your stroke and ways to help you swim more efficiently... I'll never be a speedster, but I do find it much easier now to get into a kind of autopilot freestyle rhythm). I've also done several more ow swims including a 5 miler. So, fwiw, IMO, YMMV, etc. etc., here are some thoughts: 1. In the pool, even if you're not stopping, you're constantly turning, which means you could see improvement in your time when you do the ow swim. For my five miler, I did the distance in the pool--and my actual finish time was almost an hour faster! 1a. Check out the results from previous years' swims, especially the last place time. That helped me to determine whether the swim would be a good "fit" for me. In my case, the last place time was about 45 mins. and I was at about 50-55 mins. so I looked for ways to bring the time down, including getting feedback from the above-mentioned lifeguard. I'm not sure I'd recommend my first training to you--at the time, I wasn't in any kind of masters' group and knew nothing about the structured workouts such groups did--but I did practice miles where I gradually reduced dependence on breaststroke which for me was not an efficient stroke and was slowing me down, and worked toward an all-freestyle mile. That got my time to where I thought I wouldn't be way out of touch with the pack. 2. But #1 depends on a couple things: Is the swim set to go with the tide? If so, you'll get an assist, which should help you with the speed. Are wetsuits allowed and if so, do you plan to wear one? (I have mixed feelings about them. I've never worn one for any of my swims, don't even own one--but others swear by them and from what I understand, they can help with warmth and speed. Personally I hate feeling constricted.) 3. Don't get too caught up in going out fast. Every time I've started out too fast, there's this counter-reaction about 200-300 yards into the swim where I'm struggling--but don't panic if you find yourself in that position. Take a breaststroke break and catch your breath, then settle back in. It does feel a bit unsettling to see people pulling away from you, but the kayak patrol is still watching you. As I say I'm no speedster, so I know this from experience! 4. Warm up a little before your swim... go into the water, get a feel of what it's like to swim without the lane lines. That can take a little getting used to. I like the security of black lines under me, but I've also learned that I love the freedom of being out in the open in a natural setting. 5. Have fun! If you find you have to stop before the finish--no worries. It's a race, not a job! In my first ow swim, I was almost sure that I'd be exposed as a fraud who couldn't swim, really, and would get kicked out. But then I reminded myself, "hey, no one's stopping you now. Just keep swimming! If someone tells you to stop, deal with it then." As it turned out, I didn't even finish last... second to last, but not last. ;) I have, in fact, since finished last, and no one arrested me for it. No matter what, safety comes first. If you need to stop, just see it as a learning experience. Good luck with your swim, and let us know how it went!

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orca1946 — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 06:27:57 GMT

Don't start up front, Stay back a bit & follow the group to see where you are . Sight a shore object & have fun.

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Former Member — Thu, 28 May 2009 13:17:21 GMT

If you do get in trouble, you will be told ways to flag the escort boat - wave your cap, or holler - and you'll get a ride back to shore. Pay attention to the safety briefing. This is not the kind of fun that is worth dying for - but what is? If you need to grab an escort kayak, talk to the boater first, and approach from the bow. Hug the bow to your chest and bring one or both legs up alongside or even hook you heels on the deck. You may be surprised that some of the kayakers may not be lifeguards, swimmers or even experienced, like some of the swimmers. Open water is about self reliance. Just keep your cool, keep on swimming and you'll do fine.

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ViveBene — Thu, 28 May 2009 12:28:16 GMT

You will invariably be slower in open water, the degree of slow-down dependent upon the body of water, currents, wind, etc. I was out this morning for a nice brisk 6 a.m. swim with swimming buddy, and although the water was fairly calm and there was little wind, we both felt we were swimming in molasses. We were moving against the current, and the water felt thick (the way cold water on the point of freezing begins to move "thickly"). Wave propagation extremely slow. Getting kicked in the face--OW swimming as body contact sport--will also slow a swimmer down. :)

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Patrick W. Brundage — Thu, 28 May 2009 11:08:42 GMT

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Bobinator — Thu, 28 May 2009 09:49:42 GMT

You will invariably be slower in open water, the degree of slow-down dependent upon the body of water, currents, wind, etc. If this is your first race, I'd recommend NOT wearing your watch and focusing on two things: enjoying the race / event, let your body do what it's been trained to do Caveat: I think wearing watches while swimming is almost never a good idea -- creates a small imbalance in your stroke and the disruption to your stroke rate / technique you will take to look at your watch is a "speed brake" that is not overcome by the knowledge of your pace. If you've been training enough, your body will settle into the right pace. If you've not been training enough, then constantly checking the watch to verify that you're off pace will only mess with your mind. And I think it's illegal to wear a watch in any kind of swim competition. I agree, get in theflow, enjoy and swim. (a simple concept)

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Former Member — Tue, 26 May 2009 08:25:15 GMT

Question for you. If I can comfortably swim 100's on the 1:15-1:20 pace, how realistic is it that I can do that in my first OW race? I have my first OW race coming up in early August. I am anxious and excited, and really have no idea what to expect. I figure I will wear my watch and try and keep track of some form of time for pace. Thoughts? Being that I've been a swimmer for so long (although I just came back last year) I know my pace/effort pretty well and can tell within a second or two what kind of pace I'm holding on 100's. Another way to know is stroke count. If you can figure out how many strokes you are taking over a given distance (LCM is more accurate than SCY) and a given effort then you'll have a rough idea of distance. You could count from each buoy you pass on your OW swim and have an idea how far you are from/to the next one if they are evenly spaced. I'm more the type of swimmer that likes to just get in a rhythm and just zone out and not think too much...even close my eyes for brief periods (sound nuts?!). Don't be anxious, be excited! I just always know that if I have the training behind me I'll do fine. Its generally not so much the race, but the journey to get there. Like others have said, the race is the icing on the cake. I KNOW that I've put in a good 2-3 months of solid training for this, my first OW event, so I'm confident I'll do fine....where I finish I'm not worried about, let the chips fall where they may on this one. I have two others lined up this summer where I can expect a little more maybe. Good luck! PS. Here is a link to my blog, just to give you an idea what I've been doing. I'm tapering this week. jeffpalm-swimming.blogspot.com/

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Former Member — Tue, 26 May 2009 07:25:18 GMT

Should be fine. I've been training 4500-7200 SCY a workout 3-4 times a week with weights/cardio/drylands on the days between for a few months now. I don't expect (or even want) to be the fastest one out there. I just want to be able to get into a good steady rhythm (maybe a 1:15-1:20 per 100 free type pace). Question for you. If I can comfortably swim 100's on the 1:15-1:20 pace, how realistic is it that I can do that in my first OW race? I have my first OW race coming up in early August. I am anxious and excited, and really have no idea what to expect. I figure I will wear my watch and try and keep track of some form of time for pace. Thoughts?

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srcoyote — Tue, 26 May 2009 04:44:17 GMT

Question for you. If I can comfortably swim 100's on the 1:15-1:20 pace, how realistic is it that I can do that in my first OW race? I'm a 1:25 to 1:30 per 100 pace in the pool over long distances. That is also what I am in OWS (maybe a little faster with the excitement and the adrenaline). Of course, I've only done them in lakes with no significant chop or current. That would probably slow me down some. So I would say your pool pace (if you can hold that pace for 3K) is likely to hold for an OWS as well unless you're swimming up or downstream in a river or in the ocean. Have fun. They're addictive.

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Former Member — Fri, 22 May 2009 16:38:45 GMT

have fun teasqueeze! I find if I'm breathless or disoriented a few seconds of breaststroke helps. Like the others said, take your own time and don't stess. Then, when you're addicted to OW you'll be able to improve on that first time without trouble :) How do you OW psychos evaluate your times? Even if you are comparing one mile races, you know the distance was a rough estimate and there are so many other variables such as waves, currents and how much distance you actually cover to hit the buoys..

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Former Member — Fri, 22 May 2009 16:29:19 GMT

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Former Member — Fri, 22 May 2009 16:05:05 GMT

Hey teasqueeze, I have my first one on May 30! No worries my friend. Even though I swam competitively for nearly 20 years this is my first venture into the OW! Mine is a 5K (3.1 miles) and I'm a bit nervous as well. I'm not worried about finishing, I just want to do a decent pace and not sink like a stone in the middle of it. If you do get tired, just slow the pace a bit and gather yourself a bit physically and mentally. I think its more mental than anything! You can also flip over and do a little backstroke (or double arm) just to catch your breathe if need be. Go get em, best of luck!:applaud: 5K is an awfully ambitious first OW. I have always been a strictly pool guy, but did a one mile OW last year and another this year. I swore never to do another after the first one. However, due to teammate prodding and an event being really close by, I did the 2nd one. It felt much less uncomfortable so i might eventually do anther one.

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Former Member — Fri, 22 May 2009 15:16:31 GMT

My first three goals in every OW swim I do is: 1) Finish 2) Don't barf 3) Have fun Trust me... I have not accomplished these three goals in every race I have done.

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Bobinator — Fri, 22 May 2009 12:53:10 GMT

I'm curious....2 questions: 1) If you're a newbie why don't you start with a safer, warmer pool 1500 meter race then if all goes well try an ow swim? (progression) 2) If you insist on an ow swim but you aren't ready yet why can't you wait till July/August and be more confident and prepared? Is this race extra special for you? I love OW races/swimming but I love to be prepared and fit to do them. To me the training is the best part (it's a lifestyle thing) and the races are the icing on the cake. I'm not saying it's wrong to be slow, but going into a race without confidence is wrong......and not fair to the race directors and workers.

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Former Member — Fri, 22 May 2009 12:17:08 GMT

How do you OW psychos evaluate your times? There's no perfect way, but the most accurate is to do the same swim in subsequent years. Of course currents and other conditions will change and effect the times, but you can at least get a rough idea. I'd guess that someone who's just starting out will show a huge improvement after a good year of training. Also, checking the results and seeing how your placement relative to other swimmers changes can give you a sense of how you're coming along. You're absolutely right that comparing two different races, even if they're supposedly the same distance, will not give you an accurate picture.

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srcoyote — Fri, 22 May 2009 10:01:23 GMT

Grappledunk and Slug are right. For what it's worth, my first OWS was 2 years ago. A 3K in a lake. I went out with the idea of keeping a nice even, smooth stroke and ignoring the pace of others. I did much better than I expected. Last year, I did another 3K in a lake. With the experience under my belt, I thought I would go racing. I tried to keep up with 3 guys much faster than me, and the piano fell on me half way through the race. I finished a full minute and a half slower, further back in the standings, and noted how much more fun the folks who finished far behind me had than I. I remembered that experience going into the Big Shoulders last year and swam a nice even relaxed 5K much faster than my goal time. It's all about the enjoyment of the swim at your pace. Come to think of it, maybe a better predictor of success in OWS is whether or not I have a beer waiting for me at the finish.

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Former Member — Fri, 22 May 2009 05:45:12 GMT

5K is an awfully ambitious first OW. I have always been a strictly pool guy, but did a one mile OW last year and another this year. I swore never to do another after the first one. However, due to teammate prodding and an event being really close by, I did the 2nd one. It felt much less uncomfortable so i might eventually do anther one. Should be fine. I've been training 4500-7200 SCY a workout 3-4 times a week with weights/cardio/drylands on the days between for a few months now. I don't expect (or even want) to be the fastest one out there. I just want to be able to get into a good steady rhythm (maybe a 1:15-1:20 per 100 free type pace).