https://community.usms.org/swimming/f/open-water-training-and-technique/24756/ow-stroke-questionI was an age group swimmer through high school, and then I dabbled in water polo in college. Playing a lot of water polo, I started to have impingement problems in my right shoulder. I laid off swimming for 8 years until I was 30 and really overweighten-USTelligent Community 12https://community.usms.org/thread/264892?ContentTypeID=1Wed, 07 Jan 2009 09:26:57 GMT3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:9b816c5a-930e-429b-b86c-adf1206a3ca1srcoyoteThanks a bunch. I tried the close-fisted drill this morning and found that I actually have some efficiency on my pull (in calm water, at least). I guess this means that I&#39;m going to finally have to do more work on those core muscles to keep the &quot;log&quot; body position in rough water. Does this mean the end of the beer bellied swimmer?. . .<div style="clear:both;"></div>https://community.usms.org/thread/264856?ContentTypeID=1Tue, 06 Jan 2009 06:50:21 GMT3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:4f84a01b-21ea-448a-bcee-21c358a166baFormer MemberHi David - perhaps the article at <a href="http://www.triathletemag.com/Departments/Training/2007/Mastering_rough_water.htm">www.triathletemag.com/.../Mastering_rough_water.htm</a> may help you out. It&#39;s about &quot;mastering rough water&quot; and how stroke technique varies than calm / pool water.<div style="clear:both;"></div>