https://community.usms.org/swimming/f/open-water-training-and-technique/24645/english-channel-swimming---governing-bodiesI made it a goal to swim the English channel in 2010. Everyone has said to book my pilot as soon as possible, so I went ahead and booked a pilot for the neap tide July19-27. I did this without realizing that there are now 2 separate governing bodiesen-USTelligent Community 12https://community.usms.org/thread/264136?ContentTypeID=1Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:44:57 GMT3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:bdc53af1-885b-4896-b9a5-0012e2887a43Former MemberThe CSA is the original group, founded in the 1920&#39;s, and the &quot;traditionally&quot; recognized one. The other is a group that formed within the last 10 years or so as a breakaway from the CSA. There is bad blood between them - CSA really seems to have it&#39;s collective nose out of joint about CSPF. That said, Mike Oram has no small rep as being excellent at getting his swimmers across and I don&#39;t think that anyone has every questioned the legitimacy of any swimmer&#39;s crossing that he was in charge of. Politics aside, if you get across with either group, you will have done it and no one will question that. Good luck! -LBJ<div style="clear:both;"></div>https://community.usms.org/thread/264105?ContentTypeID=1Wed, 09 Jul 2008 10:24:19 GMT3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:ae818c3d-e767-4ed4-9678-56aa0a6b157eFormer MemberAlso, is it possible to have a swim recognized by both of these bodies?<div style="clear:both;"></div>