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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://community.usms.org/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Swimming Pool Age Restrictions</title><link>https://community.usms.org/swimming/f/general/9967/swimming-pool-age-restrictions</link><description>Our pool created a rule this summer that no kid (aged 4 and under) can be in the main swimming pool, period. This includes with a parent and regardless of whether or not they are wearing swim diapers. They are only allowed to swim in the baby pool, full</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 12</generator><item><title>RE: Swimming Pool Age Restrictions</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/162814?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 16:50:05 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:0cc95172-1b47-4a4e-9503-9db3f9e823c4</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I may be jinxing myself here, but we haven&amp;#39;t had many code browns at this particular pool, even with the leniency. If the local diet consisted of krispy kremes, cracklins, and pulled pork, we might have a different story.

BAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
ROFLCOPTERS!

:bow:&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Swimming Pool Age Restrictions</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/162725?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 16:15:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:d27c90d8-6ba0-4677-9e52-2290204371f8</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Why not just lie about the time when they were born? It doesn&amp;#39;t hurt anyone.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Swimming Pool Age Restrictions</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/162585?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 14:04:08 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:52ed5b59-4459-4a15-a29a-6c8ff1b5f029</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>From CNN.com:

15 Things Your Lifeguard Won&amp;#39;t Tell You

&lt;a href="http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/05/27/lifeguard.secrets/"&gt;www.cnn.com/.../&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Swimming Pool Age Restrictions</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/162482?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 14:02:04 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:0616e2da-ed2e-458b-92c3-2d4c60592890</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Seriously, how often has anyone ever had a code brown?? I&amp;#39;ve been in pools my entire life and never seen one.  

 
While I personally have never caused a code brown, I have been the victim on at least 4 occasions.....3 kids pool incidents (at 3 different pools) which resulted in a 20min shock treatment and so everyone went in the lap pools instead during that time.  Then there was the dubious looking object at the bottom of the deep end during one Masters practice, that we eventually decided was a code brown, but as we were half way through our hour session by that time, we carried on.
 
And then there was the incident with my daughter when she was 2.5, and potty trained, except it seemed in the pool.....she was actually playing on the kiddy play thing when it happened and came down the steps looking all panicked.  So I very quickly and carefully scooped her up and legged it to the bathroom to sort her out:bolt: a code beige perhaps? or a lucky escape?:afraid:
 
Unfortunately it does happen, but I must admit I&amp;#39;d be pissed if they didn&amp;#39;t let kids under 4 in our HOA pools because of it.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Swimming Pool Age Restrictions</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/162710?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 11:57:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:8e605730-5c5c-482c-8b56-2f962f28ffaf</guid><dc:creator>aquageek</dc:creator><description>Wait a minute.  I&amp;#39;m all for restricting the hell out of lap lanes, but a family pool is a family pool -- for the WHOLE family.  


I still don&amp;#39;t get with that dealio is with the use of term &amp;quot;family pool.&amp;quot;  Big whoop.  Do you sit at home in your family bath tub and loaf on each other?  Family pool does not mean community toilet.

A compromise is that if you want your &amp;#39;s Breakfast Burritos (aka The GI Torpedo) before you let them in.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Swimming Pool Age Restrictions</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/162698?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 11:01:24 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:7714332a-cde4-45f1-870c-e9aea908665b</guid><dc:creator>moodyrichardson</dc:creator><description>I&amp;#39;m good with it as long as I really know where I&amp;#39;m swimming, and I know they take good care of the pool.  This is a really good example of what can happen, if not:

&lt;a href="http://www.marlerclark.com/case_news/detail/water-park-illnesses-tied-to-low-chlorine-levels"&gt;www.marlerclark.com/.../water-park-illnesses-tied-to-low-chlorine-levels&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Swimming Pool Age Restrictions</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/162689?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 10:58:02 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:8f5a00c6-2851-4872-95ed-60b4e7310eae</guid><dc:creator>moodyrichardson</dc:creator><description>I don&amp;#39;t mind kids in the pool, as long as the parents watch and take care of them.  Just last weekend at my city pool, there were at least 2 babies with their moms in the pool with just plain diapers on.  Extremely uncool in my book.  If they would just put on swim diapers, I&amp;#39;d feel better about it.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Swimming Pool Age Restrictions</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/162379?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 10:05:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:8465d00d-4cae-43ce-8fe0-235c67803262</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Lap pool - adults
 
shallow pool - babies/kids.
 
agree:applaud:&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Swimming Pool Age Restrictions</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/163116?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 09:49:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:1a3bcac5-4fb8-4b58-acea-64ae22f947ee</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Has anyone documented a successful swim diaper save?
In all the years my kids (three of them) were in swim diapers, the containment capacity was never challenged by a significant volume.  I am not sure they&amp;#39;d really be up to the task.

2 summers ago, went swimming with daughter 20+ times and had many saves.  They work.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Swimming Pool Age Restrictions</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/163064?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 08:23:53 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:f14c6d38-eb04-4ce1-b2c0-de028b34416b</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I also don&amp;#39;t have a problem with requiring swim diapers or charging for code brown that&amp;#39;s traced to your kid.  But keeping the under four crowd out of the pool all together?  Just go ahead and make it an adults only swim club and be done with it -- and set the rules before you take peoples&amp;#39; money.

Yes, keeping them out all together is unnecessary if a swim diaper is required.  I also understand why you would feel cheated if rules were changed after money has been exchanged.  It seems to me that your approach should be:

1) Acknowledge to the powers that be that there IS a problem and you appreciate their attempt to remedy it.
2) Show them that requiring swim diapers is a better and fairer solution than the all out ban.
3) If your reasonable and better solution is ignored, seek to get your money back.

And the age requirement should be under 3, not under 4. But that is another story.

Most people are reasonable.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Swimming Pool Age Restrictions</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/163001?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 08:02:40 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:bcd0da21-f08e-4f3f-8231-dc6fa5ab7511</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>In such matters, preventive measures (whatever they are) is the way to go, not after-the-fact punishment (such as a $200 fine). I wonder how often the culprit of such an &amp;quot;accident&amp;quot; has ever been identified.:cool:&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Swimming Pool Age Restrictions</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/162472?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 07:56:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:d6ee9a67-7c80-451e-94ee-a6d04ab08e29</guid><dc:creator>srcoyote</dc:creator><description>Wait a minute.  I&amp;#39;m all for restricting the hell out of lap lanes, but a family pool is a family pool -- for the WHOLE family.  
 
Seriously, how often has anyone ever had a code brown??  I&amp;#39;ve been in pools my entire life and never seen one.  But I HAVE seen lap swimmers vomit in the gutter.
 
Too many kids already don&amp;#39;t know how to swim, and they won&amp;#39;t learn unless they can get in the pool.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Swimming Pool Age Restrictions</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/162909?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 06:52:59 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:e4236650-ef6c-428b-a581-51a3b7dbf0c4</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Code browns are out of control.  I don&amp;#39;t know why parents can&amp;#39;t put their kids in rubber pants but apparently it is problem.  

That really is the problem.  It seems a reasonable solution is children under age 4 must be checked for swim diapers before they are allowed in the pool.  No swim diaper = no admittance.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Swimming Pool Age Restrictions</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/163109?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 04:56:06 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:4dafd6f4-a292-4a3e-b209-a6d3d60208f1</guid><dc:creator>pendaluft</dc:creator><description>Has anyone documented a successful swim diaper save?
In all the years my kids (three of them) were in swim diapers, the containment capacity was never challenged by a significant volume.  I am not sure they&amp;#39;d really be up to the task.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Swimming Pool Age Restrictions</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/162988?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 03:25:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:04683c9a-b65c-421f-b80e-a724238de263</guid><dc:creator>aquageek</dc:creator><description>I also don&amp;#39;t have a problem with requiring swim diapers or charging for code brown that&amp;#39;s traced to your kid.  But keeping the under four crowd out of the pool all together?  Just go ahead and make it an adults only swim club and be done with it -- and set the rules before you take peoples&amp;#39; money.

For ages pools have limited children in certain parts of the pool.  It&amp;#39;s not new.  People now just think that Junior should be allowed to go wherever he wants, literally, because they paid their (do)dues.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Swimming Pool Age Restrictions</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/162979?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 03:10:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:6d1e0ea7-57b9-4092-a7f3-850153984063</guid><dc:creator>srcoyote</dc:creator><description>That really is the problem. It seems a reasonable solution is children under age 4 must be checked for swim diapers before they are allowed in the pool. No swim diaper = no admittance.
 
I also don&amp;#39;t have a problem with requiring swim diapers or charging for code brown that&amp;#39;s traced to your kid.  But keeping the under four crowd out of the pool all together?  Just go ahead and make it an adults only swim club and be done with it -- and set the rules before you take peoples&amp;#39; money.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Swimming Pool Age Restrictions</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/162051?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2011 14:50:18 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:e3c36714-94b6-4eb1-875c-d444170acbeb</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>They are only allowed to swim in the baby pool

Babies swimming in the baby pool, what&amp;#39;s wrong with that?&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Swimming Pool Age Restrictions</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/161968?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2011 14:46:10 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:3fbdf51c-5ffd-48c2-a1fc-ce07d9887f07</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Seconded. If there is a baby pool, then that&amp;#39;s where they should be. It&amp;#39;s not like kids under four are swimming laps and need the big pool.

3rd. The baby pool is perfect for children that are too small for the big pool, aren&amp;#39;t potty trained or whose parents don&amp;#39;t use swim diapers.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Swimming Pool Age Restrictions</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/162169?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2011 12:27:21 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:49533a3e-a812-4911-9176-f52d49635e70</guid><dc:creator>knelson</dc:creator><description>Frankly, how are they supposed to learn how to swim unless you violate the rule.

Good question. Does the pool offer lessons and, if so, are the four and unders allowed in the main pool for them?

Did I mention, no one over the age of 5 in the baby pool? Makes no sense.

Well, that is a little screwy. So basically you can&amp;#39;t swim with your child until they are at least five years old.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Swimming Pool Age Restrictions</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/162151?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2011 11:49:17 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:f9fcc3cd-961e-4dc8-8f17-1ae729a8fd33</guid><dc:creator>aquageek</dc:creator><description>Wait a minute here.  I&amp;#39;m talking about a FAMILY POOL for which I pay alot of money to belong.  There are no lap lanes here so no one to get in the way of.  I agree parents should take more responsibility for their children whether potty trained or not.  I hate it when the lifeguards have to do the parents&amp;#39; job.  
 
However, I think it&amp;#39;s ridiculous that my 4 year old, who can swim and who is potty trained cannot swim with me in this FAMILY pool.  Frankly, how are they supposed to learn how to swim unless you violate the rule.  

And think about the situation where you have one parent with two kids ages 4 and 6.  One can&amp;#39;t be in the baby pool and one can&amp;#39;t be left alone in the big pool  Did I mention, no one over the age of 5 in the baby pool?  Makes no sense.

I belong to a FAMILY POOL also.  I think your pool has made an excellent decision.  Just because it is FAMILY POOL doesn&amp;#39;t mean I want to swim in poo.  And, the amount of money you pay is the same as everyone else and doesn&amp;#39;t entitle your kid to poop in the pool.  Speaking of which, what does money have to do with it in the first place?

Everyone wants special rules for their special kids and the net result is another endless Summer of 4 hours pool closures.  I&amp;#39;m not rolling the dice on any 4 year old and their poopy habits, no matter how exceptionally they swim.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Swimming Pool Age Restrictions</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/162129?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2011 10:56:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:15750c0c-9ca4-46c6-a286-3825f843371a</guid><dc:creator>Water Rat</dc:creator><description>Wait a minute here.  I&amp;#39;m talking about a FAMILY POOL for which I pay alot of money to belong.  There are no lap lanes here so no one to get in the way of.  I agree parents should take more responsibility for their children whether potty trained or not.  I hate it when the lifeguards have to do the parents&amp;#39; job.  
 
However, I think it&amp;#39;s ridiculous that my 4 year old, who can swim and who is potty trained cannot swim with me in this FAMILY pool.  Frankly, how are they supposed to learn how to swim unless you violate the rule.  

And think about the situation where you have one parent with two kids ages 4 and 6.  One can&amp;#39;t be in the baby pool and one can&amp;#39;t be left alone in the big pool  Did I mention, no one over the age of 5 in the baby pool?  Makes no sense.
 
Ok so I know I asked for opinions and should take what I get but I don&amp;#39;t think I accurately reflected the full story and even if I did, I guess we can just agree to disagree.  
 
Thanks for the feedback.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Swimming Pool Age Restrictions</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/161941?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2011 10:20:38 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:91779ff7-40b4-4db1-b828-0d59c36bcdae</guid><dc:creator>knelson</dc:creator><description>I think this is a fantastic rule.

Seconded. If there is a baby pool, then that&amp;#39;s where they should be. It&amp;#39;s not like kids under four are swimming laps and need the big pool.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Swimming Pool Age Restrictions</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/161920?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2011 10:09:57 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:81a9d46f-2baf-4e34-a797-8a6015f0a881</guid><dc:creator>hnatkin</dc:creator><description>I train at a school at a private school. My favorite rule on the posted list of rules is that &amp;quot;no children shall swim in the pool&amp;quot;. I&amp;#39;m pretty certain someone wrote that in as a joke, but I think it&amp;#39;s hysterical!&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Swimming Pool Age Restrictions</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/161904?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2011 09:44:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:e12ad123-8fb3-41b1-aa48-0ade80fb04df</guid><dc:creator>Water Rat</dc:creator><description>It&amp;#39;s a 100% family pool.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Swimming Pool Age Restrictions</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/161885?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2011 09:44:08 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:01169e84-312b-4d08-8024-0d501cd91fd8</guid><dc:creator>aquageek</dc:creator><description>Code browns are out of control.  I don&amp;#39;t know why parents can&amp;#39;t put their kids in rubber pants but apparently it is problem.  I also don&amp;#39;t understand why pools even allow non-toilet trained kids in the main pool.  I have had way more than a few family outings come to an abrupt halt by some kid dropping the kids off at the lake in the pool.  It has gotten to the point where some pools that are close-by we avoid simply because it happens all the time.  Y&amp;#39;s seem especially incapable of enforcing any sort of rule.

I think this is a fantastic rule. While I agree that 4/unders aren&amp;#39;t the sole source of the problem I bet they are the vast majority.

I can&amp;#39;t recall a single day growing up where we had this issue.  Maybe rules were a bit looser back in the day.  Or, maybe, parents didn&amp;#39;t think their kids were constitutionally guaranteed the right to unleash the brown furry in a swimming pool full of other people.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>