Swim Faster Stronger

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This thread is an expansion of Ande's Swimming Faster Faster Tip 31: Get Strong. This is where I give advice on how to get stronger for the purpose of swimming faster. I'm an authority on this subject only in a limited sense. I'm not a swim coach or a strength coach. I made a lot of improvement in my swimming when I started lifting weights, and I've given advice to a few other people (swimmers and non-swimmers) on how to get started on strength training. I draw a lot on conventional strength training wisdom. That's general strength training, not strength training for swimming. In my opinion, and this is probably the most radical theme I'm going to stick with here, strength training advice for swimmers has always sucked. It is most often some kind of perverted and watered down version of the strength training that actual strong people do. A lot of buzzwords get added (e.g., "functional") and actual weight (i.e., iron) gets subtracted. My number one principle for strength training is this: it's not swimming! Don't mimic strokes, don't worry about skills. Just get stronger. The strength will transfer. Safety I'm starting with this at Jim Thornton's suggestion. Your first priority in the weight room is to avoid getting hurt. Joint pain This is just like swimming. The rule is: if it hurts, don't do it. Tendonitis comes on slowly, and when you feel it, you should stop doing whatever exercise causes it. There are also rehab/prehab exercises for strength and flexibility targeting any joint you can think of. Lower back Some lifts, particularly squats and deadlifts, require you to bend over at the waist. Do these in a mirror where you can see your side profile whenever possible, or have somebody watch your form. You need to keep your lower back slightly arched at all times, never flexed while supporting a significant weight. Some techniques to promote good form are: looking up, trying to point your chest to the ceiling, and trying to push your butt backward. Use whatever combination of these cues work for you, and check your form visually. Dropping weight Common sense. Overhead weights are dangerous. Don't drop heavy stuff on your head. When doing any exercise, ask yourself what would happen if you suddenly passed out and collapsed. Would the weight hit you? Would it choke you? I'm not saying to avoid exercises like that, but be careful. End your sets before you start feeling shaky. Use stops on a power rack. Ask somebody to spot you (unless you are doing squats and you aren't good friends already). Again, this should really be common sense. Muscle soreness Sorry, this is not an injury. I just put it here to make sure nobody mistakes it for one :) It's going to happen, and it's probably going to be far more intense than what you get from swimming. Exercise selection Exercise selection is all about variety. It's important to strengthen all of the muscles on the body, and you can do that by focusing on three basic movements: push, pull, and squat. Do these basic movements at different angles and positions to strengthen the entire body. Choosing different grips and equipment can also keep you from getting bored with weight training, and it can prevent joint injuries. Push In pushing, the elbows straighten and move away from the body. The two basic angles for pushing are forward and upward. Here's the barbell bench press, a forward pushing movement: YouTube - Instructional Fitness - Bench Press And here's the standing barbell shoulder press, an upward pushing movement: YouTube - Build Muscle: Barbell Shoulder Press And of course there are different angles and hybrids. For example, incline bench press is in between shoulder press and bench press. Also, any of these things can be done with dumbbells or other equipment. Pull Pulling means elbows bend and come toward the body. The two basic angles for pulling are downward and backward. Here's the dumbbell row, a backward pulling movement: YouTube - Instructional Fitness - One-arm Dumbbell Rows And here's a pull-up, which is not just a downward pulling movement, but the downward pulling movement that all beginning lifters must do, because of all of the different muscles it stresses: YouTube - dead-hang pull ups with 70lb kettlebell.AVI Squat The squatting movement is the basis for all lower body development. My favorite squatting movement is the barbell lunge, which puts less relative stress on the lower back by working one leg at a time: YouTube - Lunges 225 X 7 If you bend over without bending much at the knees, squatting turns into a deadlift variation. Here's the sumo deadlift: YouTube - How to Sumo Deadlift Load, volume, and frequency These are parameters you need to balance. Load means: how heavy is the weight? Or, more specifically: how much force are your muscles required to produce to move it? Volume means: how many repetitions do you do? How much total work are the muscles doing? Frequency means: how often does a particular muscle get worked? You can do a full-body workout three days a week, or maybe upper body two days a week and lower body one day. Or you can get even more specific. Bodybuilders like to have days like "chest", "arms", and "shoulders" over the course of a week. I know this sounds arbitrary, but we have to start somewhere. Here are my can't-fail load and volume parameters for newbies: 1. Do a full body workout two or three days a week, involving one push, one pull, and one squat. 2. Do between 2 and 6 sets per exercise, excluding easy/warm-up sets. 3. Do between 5 and 15 reps per set. 4. Don't take less than a full minute of rest between sets. Within that, knock yourself out. You'll eventually come to some kind of understanding of how you respond to different amounts of volume and load, and how much variety you want. In a bit I'll give you a specific program to start with, if that's too much choice for you. Failure and fatigue Fatigue means you start to shake or slow down. Failure means you are no longer able to lift the weight. In my opinion, these things are way overrated. It's fun to challenge yourself and see exactly how many reps you can do to failure, but if you are doing 30 reps of 135 pounds on some exercise, 3 sets of 10 is pretty much the same as 6 sets of 5. I often prefer to do the latter, although it might take slightly longer. It all depends on how much pain you want to be in. There are some minor strength benefits to failure in strength training, but it definitely doesn't have to happen on every set, or even in every workout. It's just another parameter that you can change depending on how you like it. Introduction plan This is a plan that follows my guidelines. It's very similar to what I did when I started lifting. The exercises in it are the ones I showed videos of above. If you have more questions about how to do them or set up for them, please ask. This workout is built on sets of 10 reps. Choose a very light weight to start, and slowly add weight, never more than 20 pounds at a time (or 10 pounds per dumbbell) until you can't complete 10 reps on your last set. Once you learn roughly how much weight you can do on a particular exercise, you can choose a good point to start ramping up from without wasting time. Workout A Assisted pull-up machine (Remember, more weight is easier on this.) Standing barbell shoulder press (Stop any set if you start to feel shaky. Don't go to failure on these!) Barbell alternating lunge (You can also do this holding dumbbells at your side. Pretty much the same.) Workout B One-arm dumbbell row (Switch arms between sets, and stop when either arm fails to get 10 reps.) Barbell bench press (Stop a bit short of failure, or get a spotter.) Sumo deadlift (Check your lower back form! The set is over when you lose perfect form.) Do Workout A, rest a few days, then do Workout B. Repeat. Take extra rest days if you feel like it. Feel free to substitute similar movements if you get bored or don't like the ones I prescribe. Questions? Ask me!
  • As an aside: I never, ever think of an Olympian when I think of masters swimmers as a whole, but think of someone who doesn't compete, doesn't do drylands, probably does open turns and swims with a team for the combination of organized cardio and friendship. Oh my gosh is this ever a depressing thought. When I was at Nationals 3 weeks ago, that is not what I associated with masters swimmers! Although I have to admit that perhaps that is what the majority of "masters swimmers" are & why they are there, but I would bet that at least those of us on the Forum do compete, do flip turns & at least feel guilty if we don't do dry lands. I have to agree with those who say the core is important in the other areas of our lives though. And doesn't the core help with your fly & flip turns, if nothing else? Also, I noticed that my abs were extremely sore after my first meet - so we must use them on our dives, as well! :)
  • Oh my gosh is this ever a depressing thought. When I was at Nationals 3 weeks ago, that is not what I associated with masters swimmers! Although I have to admit that perhaps that is what the majority of "masters swimmers" are & why they are there, but I would bet that at least those of us on the Forum do complete, do flip turns & at least feel guilty if we don't do dry lands. I have to agree with those who say the core is important in the other areas of our lives though. And doesn't the core help with your fly & flip turns, if nothing else? Also, I noticed that my abs were extremely sore after my first meet - so we must use them on our dives, as well! :) Truly agree. Q needs to visit a few other teams to change his views.
  • Re: core exercises,I agree regular crunches probably don't contribute much,but I have found stability ball type exercises quite helpful both for strength but also for body awareness.I had had a problems on push offs with being a little sway backed which I have been better able to avoid since the stability ball work. Also the quoted experiment with the cadaver pigs to show crunches were bad for your back seems to me to have limited or no predictive value for humans since we would be actively bending instead of passively bending which would totally alter the effects since the muscles around the back(core muscles) would be involved.I will say ,unequivocally ,that cadaver pigs should avoid crunches.:bolt:
  • I will say ,unequivocally ,that cadaver pigs should avoid crunches.:bolt: I feel inclined to agree with you on this one. Besides, it's probably an issue of too little too late.
  • It is probably pointless to represent "a typical masters swimmers" by any one type. I suspect the type Qbrain describes -- open turns, legs dangling, never competes, never generates lactic acid in practice (he could have just said "triathlete") -- is perhaps just as much an outlier as ex-collegiate swimmers. (The triathlete thing was a joke, please don't beat up on me.) A sizeable minority of USMS members compete; I think the number is routinely underestimated. (For example, one of the candidates for the office of USMS President stated the number is 20%.) If you go here: www.usms.org/.../ you'll see an informative table (kudos to Jim M). In 2010 there were about 16,000 unique members who competed in a meet that appears in our national results database; there were about 55,000 members of USMS in that year, so we KNOW at least 29% of members competed in one or more meets. But this is a minimum because that 16,000 figure omits (a) meets not included in the results database and (b) open water competitions. IMO the latter, especially, would add quite a few "unique" swimmers to the pool. Registration in Virginia jumps significantly once OW season starts, for example. I wouldn't be surprised if 35-40% of our membership competes in at least one meet or OW race per year. That squares with my estimates of participation rates in our LMSC and it's a pretty sizeable fraction of membership. So does the "average" masters swimmer -- whatever that means -- engage the core enough while swimming to be "fit" (whatever that means)? I have no clue or strong opinion. I think that swimming is a good choice for a healthy lifestyle, but if fitness is your only goal I would certainly recommend at least one alternative form of dryland activity a couple times a week. My father has back problems. I did once ask my physician (USMS past-president Jim Miller) what I should be doing to avoid those problems, and he said I'm already doing it by swimming.
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    Oh my gosh is this ever a depressing thought. I have no idea why it is a depressing thought? USMS is an organization of swimmers and there is a broad spectrum of skill levels. It depresses you that there are people interested enough in swimming to get up at 4:30am to swim sans flip turns? They cheer me up. Maybe the average USMS member does flip turns, I have no idea. I was making fun of Chris pure and simple. But maybe the average USMS member is an Olympian still training and competing at the top of his age group and I owe Chris an apology.
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    I have found stability ball type exercises quite helpful both for strength but also for body awareness. Anything special or are you just doing ab exercises on the stability ball?
  • As an aside: I never, ever finish a race and immediately think that I was limited by inadequate core strength. ("My abs just gave out on that last stretch!" or "I couldn't get my legs over on the last turn!") Others may be different, of course.I almost ALWAYS get out of an 800/1000/1500/1650/OW events and absolutely think, "Damn! My core is killing me / gave out on me / I gotta get back to doing more core work." True story. Of course, maybe if I did repeats longer than a 300 or 400 more consistently before racing distance events, maybe that would help. But, the bottom-line is that the kind of swim training I'm doing doesn't seem to fully prepare my core for the kind of swim-racing I do.
  • But this tells me I busted my butt hardcore as well!... or that you raced way harder than you prepared for!
  • ... or that you raced way harder than you prepared for! OK...that too! :D I remember feeling like that in college after my 1650 at Nats, going 15:53. I was training 8-9000+ twice a day and Saturdays back then, so I should have been plenty prepared.