Unfinished business in the pool??

RE: Unfinished business in the pool??

Former Member — Thu, 03 Mar 2011 07:48:19 GMT

You may start out with the intention of exorcising your unfinished business, however you will find that masters is a completely different atmosphere, you will continue with it because of what it does for your heart and soul. All of a sudden you will realize you forgot about all that unfinished business because you are having entirely too much fun! Well said. :applaud: For me I started swimming masters so I could lose some weight and not have to start sizing up my surfboards. But just like you, the path has led to so much more than just a little exercise.

RE: Unfinished business in the pool??

AnnG — Tue, 01 Mar 2011 11:42:59 GMT

Couple of things from my Masters swimming experience: You will need to establish new baselines as there is no way you can train like you did in college even if you wanted to, life is just much more complicated and you probably have new priorities. That being said, it doesn't mean you can't challenge yourself and improve your swimming. I had to learn the new techniques developed in my decade and a half break between collegiate and masters swimming. You may start out with the intention of exorcising your unfinished business, however you will find that masters is a completely different atmosphere, you will continue with it because of what it does for your heart and soul. All of a sudden you will realize you forgot about all that unfinished business because you are having entirely too much fun!

RE: Unfinished business in the pool??

Former Member — Thu, 24 Feb 2011 17:56:40 GMT

That would require me unseating Alex Kostich, who has posted an incredible time beyond what I can even imagine. But, yes, filming you and Fort swimming side by side in the same heat would be the most awesome thing ever in my entire history of swimming. I'd hold that memory close and dear for all eternity. I'd Bieber font it for posterity. Fort would be too scarred of my Jim Thornton muscles even show-up at the same meet. But to achieve some of the goals that I would like to in the pool, I am thinking I will need to improve my thornton muscles by adding strength training to regime.

RE: Unfinished business in the pool??

Former Member — Thu, 24 Feb 2011 17:38:37 GMT

You also rock! Watching (and recording) your world record-breaking 200IM at 2010 Nationals was one of the highlights for me! Geek, one of your unfinished goals in the pool is to break a world record in the mile. If I get to witness that happening, that will be one of the happiest moments of my usms career.

RE: Unfinished business in the pool??

Former Member — Thu, 24 Feb 2011 17:00:44 GMT

Used to have dreams at night about still competeing on my highschool team so I hit the pool again at age 43. My goal was to score 1 point at any type of Masters National competition. So far the closest I have come to that is a 16th place finish. Maybe it's better I don't place so that I keep on swimming.

RE: Unfinished business in the pool??

Former Member — Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:13:31 GMT

I have NEVER reported a post. Don't believe it? Ask the moderators. Sorry, the bieber font is messing up on my screen. It's all fuzzy, can't make it out. Since I have an early practice, I won't try to decode the fuzziness. I have several goals that I have set for myself in the backstroke events and maybe one that will involve chasing down a certain geek in a freestyle one as well.

RE: Unfinished business in the pool??

Former Member — Thu, 24 Feb 2011 14:47:31 GMT

That's not why we said you were a suck up. It goes without saying that Ande makes positive contributions through his threads and blog. I have personally thanked him on many occasions, and he is a friend. I think you would benefit by using the words attack and accuse less frequently. Or using the "report this post" button or whatever it's called when she doesn't like a comment

RE: Unfinished business in the pool??

Former Member — Thu, 24 Feb 2011 14:15:24 GMT

She's not a suck-up, she's just relentlessly positive. en.wikipedia.org/.../MDMA

RE: Unfinished business in the pool??

aquageek — Thu, 24 Feb 2011 12:45:17 GMT

Geek, one of your unfinished goals in the pool is to break a world record in the mile. If I get to witness that happening, that will be one of the happiest moments of my usms career. That would require me unseating Alex Kostich, who has posted an incredible time beyond what I can even imagine. But, yes, filming you and Fort swimming side by side in the same heat would be the most awesome thing ever in my entire history of swimming. I'd hold that memory close and dear for all eternity. I'd Bieber font it for posterity.

RE: Unfinished business in the pool??

ande — Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:42:33 GMT

Hi Elaine, thank you I appreciate you shooting that race & cheering it was SCY so you can only have a Nat records in that pool length. YouTube - 2010 Masters SCY Nats 200 IM Men 45 to 49 1:58.20 NR WRs are only for LCM or SCM Ande You also rock! Watching (and recording) your world record-breaking 200IM at 2010 Nationals was one of the highlights for me! :applaud:

RE: Unfinished business in the pool??

Former Member — Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:04:27 GMT

Must clarify. TG, Jazz would rather die than use a smilie. He barely uses punctuation and would be appalled by the Justin Bieber font. I use the standard smile a lot, so that I can say mean things without seeming mean. Here's an example: "Your butterfly in the video looks good. Try getting both arms out of the water for the recovery :)"

RE: Unfinished business in the pool??

Elaine Krugman — Thu, 24 Feb 2011 09:57:27 GMT

Or using the "report this post" button or whatever it's called when she doesn't like a comment I have NEVER reported a post. Don't believe it? Ask the moderators.

RE: Unfinished business in the pool??

The Fortress — Thu, 24 Feb 2011 08:50:12 GMT

Thanks for correcting me on that; I'm still learning the ropes, I guess! And, hey, your welcome. I may be accused of highjacking the thread and being called a "suck up" for saying that, but you are deserving of the praise you receive for your swimming achievements and positive contributions to the forums. That's not why we said you were a suck up. It goes without saying that Ande makes positive contributions through his threads and blog. I have personally thanked him on many occasions, and he is a friend. I think you would benefit by using the words attack and accuse less frequently.

RE: Unfinished business in the pool??

Elaine Krugman — Thu, 24 Feb 2011 07:52:05 GMT

Hi Elaine, thank you I appreciate you shooting that race & cheering it was SCY so you can only have a Nat records in that pool length. YouTube - 2010 Masters SCY Nats 200 IM Men 45 to 49 1:58.20 NR WRs are only for LCM or SCM Ande Thanks for correcting me on that; I'm still learning the ropes, I guess! And, hey, your welcome. I may be accused of highjacking the thread and being called a "suck up" for saying that, but you are deserving of the praise you receive for your swimming achievements and positive contributions to the forums.

RE: Unfinished business in the pool??

aquageek — Thu, 24 Feb 2011 06:12:38 GMT

Initial thread hijack and suck up. And I never said I didn't hijack threads; however, at least I was discussing "unfinished business." :) There is a rich history of hijacking on this forum; it has only recently been objected to. Are you able to carry on given this vicious personal attack, Fort? Maybe Jimby and Wookiee can rush to your aide with their massive biceps.

RE: Unfinished business in the pool??

The Fortress — Thu, 24 Feb 2011 06:10:04 GMT

You also rock! Watching (and recording) your world record-breaking 200IM at 2010 Nationals was one of the highlights for me! :applaud: Initial thread hijack and suck up, which led to our sarcasm. And I never said I didn't hijack threads; however, at least I was discussing "unfinished business." :)

RE: Unfinished business in the pool??

Elaine Krugman — Thu, 24 Feb 2011 05:55:42 GMT

Or the kind of chuckle you get realizing that Jim and Wookiee have some unfinished business in the weight room, but I don't. :) :hijack: :D

RE: Unfinished business in the pool??

The Fortress — Thu, 24 Feb 2011 05:25:42 GMT

Now that's quite funny. I actually had an outward chuckle, kind of like when I saw Jazz in his ripped suit in Atlanta.:) Or the kind of chuckle you get realizing that Jim and Wookiee have some unfinished business in the weight room, but I don't. :)

RE: Unfinished business in the pool??

aquageek — Thu, 24 Feb 2011 05:13:02 GMT

"Your butterfly in the video looks good. Try getting both arms out of the water for the recovery :)" Now that's quite funny. I actually had an outward chuckle, kind of like when I saw Jazz in his ripped suit in Atlanta.:)

RE: Unfinished business in the pool??

The Fortress — Thu, 24 Feb 2011 04:53:29 GMT

Fort would be too scarred of my Jim Thornton muscles to even show-up at the same meet. How quickly they forget ... But it was indeed a sublime moment of my swim career celebrating Wook's birthday in my backyard after Zones.

RE: Unfinished business in the pool??

Former Member — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:37:39 GMT

RE: Unfinished business in the pool??

Former Member — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 15:06:06 GMT

, I have new business now...I'm so not fast!! It's pretty pathetic. My lap time is the same as my race time. I cannot seem to swim fast anymore, except fly. I can't tell if it's just not in me anymore (slow shoulders?) or I'm just not doing something right. It's very frustrating. But then again, I can't run fast anymore either, but I can run FARTHER and smarter. I can swim much farther and happier than before, so maybe it's worth giving up the sprints. I wonder if anyone else has this problem... I never was much of a sprinter, but find it even harder now to get fired up for a 50 - except fly! For some reason I can still do a 50 fly within 1.5 secs of my 50 free, which probably says more about my non-sprint free. Anyway I've moved to mid-distance as I've got older. I think training on your own makes it hard to sprint - I can pace myeslf against the clock on 200s, 500s or sets of 100 reps, but don't have all that testosterone flying round from the "boys" lane to help with the speed work.

RE: Unfinished business in the pool??

Former Member — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 14:57:16 GMT

I enjoy swimming now much more than when I was an age-grouper. I quit when I was turning 15 and didn't have the times for championship meets anymore. My unfinished business is that I didn't go on to swim in high school with a coach who knew what to do with teenagers. I might have been so much faster if he knew how to help us with that transition. I had a huge break, and now my almost 15-yr-old son is competing, and doing very well. He's not the prettiest swimmer, but he strong and faster than we ever were. Made me wonder what I could do. I've been seriously training using these on-line workouts here while he swims. I'm enjoying it a lot, and enjoying getting stronger. I have new business now...I'm so not fast!! It's pretty pathetic. My lap time is the same as my race time. I cannot seem to swim fast anymore, except fly. I can't tell if it's just not in me anymore (slow shoulders?) or I'm just not doing something right. It's very frustrating. But then again, I can't run fast anymore either, but I can run FARTHER and smarter. I can swim much farther and happier than before, so maybe it's worth giving up the sprints. I wonder if anyone else has this problem...

RE: Unfinished business in the pool??

Patrick W. Brundage — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 11:45:28 GMT

My best 50 fr: 23.0x My best 100 fr: 50.0x My best 200 fr: 1:50.0x I believe that is the source of all my pent up frustration, jaded world view and occasional sarcasm. Those barriers are the only reason I train and as soon as they are broken I will never swim again having dissolved all frustration allowing myself to see the world in a new light and achieved divine bliss.Once you see 22+ in the 50 the siren song of 21.99 will draw you in ... same with 48.99, 1:48.99 ... and on and on and on. Enjoy the endless pursuit of happiness and divine bliss.

RE: Unfinished business in the pool??

ande — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 11:23:36 GMT

I think of myself as blessed and very fortunate, I'm pretty happy with my swimming experiences but I do feel like I never swam as fast as I could have. Here's my reasons why, I: + had spotty training from ages 8 to 11, then started with the Langley Blue Dolphins in Hampton Virginia which became the Coast Guard Blue Dolphins at a Coast Guard Base new Yorktown. + took a break from swimming from Feb 1977 to Sep 1977 after I moved from Hamption Virginia to Austin, Texas + didn't really get into a strong swimming program until I started Longhorn Aquatics in Austin in Sep 1977 + didn't break 1:00 in the 100 scy fr until I was 15 + didn't move up into the top age group program at Longhorn coached by Paul Bergen until I my High school jr year. + was a late bloomer, was 5'4" 120 lbs as a HS freshman, 6'1" end of my HS SR then grew 2 more inches in college to 6' 3 & 3/4ths + just turned 18 when I graduated from HS, so I was younger than most of my class. + should have kept training for the 200 & 400 IM's & the 200 & 500 fr + hurt my back in 1982, the summer after my freshman year at UT, & it kept hurting for 2 years and I didn't improve. Wasn't able to swim as hard or lift. but finally broke through this slump with My Best Season Ever + never got a swimming scholarship & never in NCAAs or Olympic Trials, even though I made cuts for both. + wish I would have gotten better sooner at streamline dolphin kicking + really wish when I was at UT, that we had 4 x 50 relays & tech suits. But I did what I did and it is what it is and now I'm having fun in masters.