Swimming and Running

RE: Swimming and Running

Former Member — Mon, 18 Oct 2010 16:57:03 GMT

Sometimes I'd run a marathon distance, but it wasn't a typical traning run. My long runs were generally around 14 to 18 miles. Mostly 15 or 16 miles. Running 26.2 miles every Sunday would have been off the chart. Sorry I wasn't very clear about that.

RE: Swimming and Running

orca1946 — Mon, 18 Oct 2010 12:50:24 GMT

You do 26.2 training runs?

RE: Swimming and Running

orca1946 — Mon, 18 Oct 2010 01:14:06 GMT

That is a great base, for some it would be a major goal. Add swimming to build upper body & recover lower .

RE: Swimming and Running

aztimm — Mon, 18 Oct 2010 01:11:37 GMT

Thanks for providing more details, that really helps. We follow similar training patterns it seems, check my blog and you'll see. To me it looks like the most logical place for another swim is Monday, after your recovery run. Is that on a treadmill or outside? I'd probably stick a 1000 m/yd swim after that, start with 200-300 recovery, a short drill set (300ish), a short speed set (something like 8 x 25), then 100-200 cool down. Where in Texas are you? I know there are some teams in Houston, I swam with one years ago. I'd suggest getting with a masters group sooner rather than later. There are usually all speeds, and chances are you'll find others to swim with right away. A 7:00 min/mile marathon pace is really rocking! With your weekly pace run, you should get faster over time, especially if you work in a longer pace run (12-13 miles) as your long run every 3-4 weeks. I was faster when I was younger too, and still hope to get some of that speed back.

RE: Swimming and Running

Former Member — Sat, 16 Oct 2010 06:02:59 GMT

Hi aztimm, Thanks for replying! The reason I'd like to add another day of swimming is because: I really like it, I'd like to become better and I'd like to become competitive at some point I'm not training for any races, but at some point I'd like to join a masters team if there are any in my area. Typical Training Schedule is: M: Run 3-5 miles (recovery run from Sunday's long run) T: Swim (one of Betsy's one hour workouts...2300-2600m) W: Run 5-7 mile (tempo run) T: Run 4 miles F: Swim (one of Betsy's one hour workouts...2300-2600m) S: Rest Su:Run varies (long run) My background in running is that I used to run marathon distances at close to a 7:00 min pace...never raced one, though. I've raced 10Ks and my times were generally around 39-41 minutes. I took a break from running for a number of years because I had some asthma issues. My asthma is controlled now, so I started running again a few months ago, but I run much slower :( Now I run a 9:30-10:00 min pace, but my endurance is good, so I'm ok with the long runs. My background with swimming isn't very extensive. I have no formal training. I started swimming a while back, but had to stop. I started again when I started running again. Before I started doing Betsy's one hour workouts, I used to just swim laps. I wanted more structure in my workouts and more gains, but I didn't know how to do that, so I found Betsy's one hour workouts. I really like to swim 400m and my fastest time is 6:56. I hope this all helps... let me know if you have anymore questions :blush:

RE: Swimming and Running

Former Member — Fri, 15 Oct 2010 07:37:39 GMT

Why not simply adding a transition swim after a run, or a transition run after the swim. In this case, on the day you expect to be doing both, why not favoring a nice long pull buoy set? Simple and efficient. No conflict with the running workout (no matter if the workout is after or before the swim). Anecdotal evidence suggest that it's often better to swim after the run. Not the opposite.

RE: Swimming and Running

aztimm — Fri, 15 Oct 2010 02:25:38 GMT

As a fellow swimmer/runner (sometimes it feels more like runner/swimmer), I'd love to give some help. But I have some questions first-- * why do you think you need more swimming per week? * are you training for any races, and if so when and what events? * what does your current weekly schedule look like? If you tend to follow something that would help, if not maybe your ideal weekly schedule. * what is your background with swimming and running?