50s are not real swimming races

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Former Member — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 15:35:52 GMT

No, Speedo, not inflammatory -- sanctimonious. One thing which is nice about masters swimming is that athletes of all abilities and ages can compete. It is a very welcoming environment. I would ask Mr. Fan if he has 1) ever competed in a masters meet and if so, 2) why be so divisive? Perhaps Mr. Fan would not come off as such a self-righteous prat if he had his name out where everyone could see. Or perhaps he is just a troll. Now I have offended the noodlers and aqua joggers? Give me a break.

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fritznh — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 11:12:16 GMT

Nnnnnooooooooooo! Say it isn't so! 50s in the Olympics? ....to be followed shortly thereafter by two other swimming-like events. Noodle-ing and Aqua Jogging. No, Speedo, not inflammatory -- sanctimonious. One thing which is nice about masters swimming is that athletes of all abilities and ages can compete. It is a very welcoming environment. I would ask Mr. Fan if he has 1) ever competed in a masters meet and if so, 2) why be so divisive? Perhaps Mr. Fan would not come off as such a self-righteous prat if he had his name out where everyone could see. Or perhaps he is just a troll.

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Former Member — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 10:08:32 GMT

I'm not certain that 50s were in the slot above.

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Former Member — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 08:50:51 GMT

by two other swimming-like events. Noodle-ing and Aqua Jogging ...meaning synchronized swimming. 50's of ***, fly, and back would be a plus for televised swimming. :2cents:

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Former Member — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 08:11:10 GMT

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Former Member — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 06:37:44 GMT

50s will be Olympic events by the 2016 or 2020 Olympics - Other nations do well (so they will support adding the events since someone besides the US usually wins)(and with Brazil doing so well, would not be suprised to see them as an exhibition in 2016). Nnnnnooooooooooo! Say it isn't so! 50s in the Olympics? ....to be followed shortly thereafter by two other swimming-like events. Noodle-ing and Aqua Jogging.

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swim53 — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 05:18:36 GMT

USMS FAN: You're gonna make us sprinters mad again, putting 50's just a slot above noodling and aqua-jogging.

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Speedo — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 03:47:03 GMT

50s in the Olympics? ....to be followed shortly thereafter by two other swimming-like events. Noodle-ing and Aqua Jogging.You're right. That's not inflammatory at all.

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Former Member — Fri, 20 Aug 2010 16:54:51 GMT

I think 50s are fine and I like the goggle toss and beer relays too. This is supposed to be for fun afterall.

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Former Member — Fri, 20 Aug 2010 13:07:07 GMT

Moody Richard was one of my favorite songs by Dan Hicks and his Hot Licks. I don't know if he or his Hot Licks prefered distance over sprints.

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oldwahoo — Fri, 20 Aug 2010 11:16:34 GMT

50s will be Olympic events by the 2016 or 2020 Olympics - Other nations do well (so they will support adding the events since someone besides the US usually wins)(and with Brazil doing so well, would not be suprised to see them as an exhibition in 2016). TV likes them - they are quick, viewer friendly events - I dislike it, but do you notice how often in the 400 Free and longer races they cut away for commercials. If it can add content and the opportunity for greater ad revenue, they will be added.

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Former Member — Fri, 20 Aug 2010 10:42:27 GMT

I can't remember what the other teams all did but, as you can imagine, it was hilarious to watch. :anim_coffee: Found one on-line. Looks like great fun. YouTube- The Woodlands Masters Swim Meet - Beer Relay

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Elaine Krugman — Fri, 20 Aug 2010 10:14:03 GMT

Now about those beer relays, can we get a petition to add those to nationals?:anim_coffee: :cheerleader:Cheers to that! :chug:

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Former Member — Fri, 20 Aug 2010 08:19:58 GMT

Beer Relays? Wait a minute, when did such a glorious event get pulled out of main stream swimming? THIS SHOULD BE A STAPLE!!! Years ago I attended an out-of-town meet in a location that shall go unnamed. It was a meet that had a long-standing tradition. At the end of the weekend's events, the meet announcer got on the mike and announced that "the USMS portion of the meet has now concluded." Suddenly a keg of beer appeared on the pool deck. Someone had a stack of plastic cups and cafeteria trays. One person filled cups and another placed six of them on each cafeteria tray. A third person placed one filled tray at the end of each lane. The teams, composed of six people each, assembled on the pool deck. Many of the experienced teams had brought various props with them. When the starting signal was given, the teams proceeded to get into the pool. One team had brought an inflatable floating thing that had six cup holders built into it. They put the full cups of beer into the cup holders, got into the lane, pushed the floatie thing into the middle of the pool, and proceeded to drink the beer while treading water. :chug: Another team brought what looked like a hospital bedpan. They poured all six cups of beer into the bedpan, then proceeded to take turns drinking from it. :drink: I can't remember what the other teams all did but, as you can imagine, it was hilarious to watch. :anim_coffee:

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moodyrichardson — Fri, 20 Aug 2010 07:52:59 GMT

As a USMS swimmer brand new to competition, I LOVE 50s! I wasn't an age grouper, high school, or college swimmer. I figure I can endure anything for 50 meters or yards. As a beginning fly swimmer, anything higher than a 50 right now is still unimaginable for me. Now about those beer relays, can we get a petition to add those to nationals?:anim_coffee:

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Michael Heather — Fri, 20 Aug 2010 07:14:03 GMT

Years ago I attended an out-of-town meet in a location that shall go unnamed. It was a meet that had a long-standing tradition. At the end of the weekend's events, the meet announcer got on the mike and announced that "the USMS portion of the meet has now concluded." Suddenly a keg of beer appeared on the pool deck. Someone had a stack of plastic cups and cafeteria trays. One person filled cups and another placed six of them on each cafeteria tray. A third person placed one filled tray at the end of each lane. The teams, composed of six people each, assembled on the pool deck. Many of the experienced teams had brought various props with them. When the starting signal was given, the teams proceeded to get into the pool. One team had brought an inflatable floating thing that had six cup holders built into it. They put the full cups of beer into the cup holders, got into the lane, pushed the floatie thing into the middle of the pool, and proceeded to drink the beer while treading water. :chug: Another team brought what looked like a hospital bedpan. They poured all six cups of beer into the bedpan, then proceeded to take turns drinking from it. :drink: I can't remember what the other teams all did but, as you can imagine, it was hilarious to watch. :anim_coffee: 1992 was the last time I know that a beer relay took place during (actually after) nationals. Hill Carrow has a fabulous story about these relays, just ask him. It was originally started by the Rockie mountain masters and called the sixpack relays for good reason. Some teams came for the beer, some came to swim fast, some cheated. All had fun, because no one really ever knew (or cared) who won. The historic method was to do a regular diving start, swim a 25 and get out of the pool, drink your beer, dive back in and finish with a regular relay transfer. Some made the shocking and immoral mistake of just pouring the beer on their face or over the shoulder and diving back in.

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Former Member — Fri, 20 Aug 2010 06:41:29 GMT

Beer Relays? Wait a minute, when did such a glorious event get pulled out of main stream swimming? THIS SHOULD BE A STAPLE!!! I went ahead and fixed that for you. Now THAT is funny!

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Former Member — Fri, 20 Aug 2010 06:17:59 GMT

Beer Relays? Wait a minute, when did such a glorious event get pulled out of main stream swimming? THIS SHOULD BE A STAPLE!!! Obviously I am out of my lane here but I've been told that the beer relays were causing too much fatigue among older swimmers, so they replaced them with the 50 *** stroke.

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Elaine Krugman — Fri, 20 Aug 2010 04:38:15 GMT

:lmao:

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Elaine Krugman — Fri, 20 Aug 2010 02:40:06 GMT

I went ahead and fixed that for you. Thanks, Chris! :applaud: :D

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Chris Stevenson — Fri, 20 Aug 2010 02:37:30 GMT

Obviously I am out of my lane here but I've been told that the beer relays were causing too much fatigue among older swimmers, so they replaced them with the 400 IM. I went ahead and fixed that for you.

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bzaks1424 — Fri, 20 Aug 2010 02:05:31 GMT

I think 50s are fine and I like the goggle toss and beer relays too. This is supposed to be for fun afterall. Beer Relays? Wait a minute, when did such a glorious event get pulled out of main stream swimming? THIS SHOULD BE A STAPLE!!!

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Former Member — Thu, 19 Aug 2010 16:33:43 GMT

Generally speaking -- there can always be exceptions in specific age-groups or years, of course -- I think the TT rankings for the sprint events are more competitive than those of the distance events, particularly for events that are perceived as the most difficult/painful (eg, 400 IM, 200 fly, 1650 free). My point exactly. Although I think that Cielo could also swim a better 1,500 than Salnikov could a 50...

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Former Member — Thu, 19 Aug 2010 16:28:42 GMT

I agree. I briefly forgot that this is a USMS swimming forum. In the elite world however, I still feel that distance swimmers are quite able to be to more sucessful in sprints than sprinters are sucessful in distance events. IMers might even take the cake from all of them. That is my very biased opinion which is not supported by any facts or inkling of research.

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Former Member — Thu, 19 Aug 2010 16:03:50 GMT

Sadly, this is quite true. Still, occasionally we are boneheaded enough to enter them anyway. I'm not too sure about this. Let's say that the USMS Top 10 50 FR swimmers swim the 1,000, and the Top 10 1,000 FR swimmers swim the 50. I would wager that the sprinters will rank higher in the y/e 1,000 rankings than the distance swimmers will in the 50 rankings.