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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://community.usms.org/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>what does this sign mean?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/swimming/f/general/9313/what-does-this-sign-mean</link><description>I often see some swimmers doing this kind of sign: curling back middle and ring fingers and extend pinkie, index and thumb. For example, Ryan Lochte&amp;#39;s right hand in the left background picture on http://twitter.com/ryanlochte . What does it mean actually</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 12</generator><item><title>RE: what does this sign mean?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/148154?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:09:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:f318a469-f758-466b-9d3b-368b50341d01</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Makes sense to me, not strange at all.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: what does this sign mean?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/148120?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:46:44 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:58f54655-dcf3-41e9-8538-e5c9b9cd1a38</guid><dc:creator>Kevin in MD</dc:creator><description>Strange way to say it, but what he is getting at is that you want to keep your elbows more or less in your frontal plane. The plane defined by your shoulder joints and hip joints. Assuming that they rotate together as you swim freestyle.

From an injury prevention perspective, the big point here is that if you keep your elbow from going behind your shoulders you are less likely to face problems at the shoulder joint. 

This isn&amp;#39;t that revolutionary, or if it is, me and several other coaches started the revolution a few years ago.

It is totally compatible with what most people are doing now. The key part is to realize that the frontal plane actually moves as you rotate. Also, think about what the humerus is doing, is it shooting out pretty much straight to the side from your shoulder joint, more or less that is.

So it totally works with fingertip drag and high elbow recovery and here&amp;#39;s why. If you rotate over onto your side (exagerrate for discussion) then when you do a high elbow recovery, think about where the humerus and elbow are. Your elbow is actually in front of your shoulders, in front of your frontal plane. A nice relaxed place to be.

On the other hand, if you have a high elbow recovery *without* much rotation, then your elbow would be behind your shoulders.

Same thing for fly, keep your recovery in front of your shoulders to the extent possible to keep yoru shoulders healthy.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: what does this sign mean?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/148087?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:33:57 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:095fdd16-af32-465a-8372-1f5556e143ad</guid><dc:creator>Kevin in MD</dc:creator><description>Devil Horns, thank you to Ronnie James Dio.

Originally meant as a way to ward off the devil. Appropriated in the 80s to mean the opposite.

Now, as others have said, mostly for &amp;quot;Rockin&amp;quot;, particularly if the turned down fingers point to you.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: what does this sign mean?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/148056?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:29:34 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:80a0120e-1dda-49f9-9d06-a757dab395bd</guid><dc:creator>Kevin in MD</dc:creator><description>Devil Horns, thank you to Ronnie James Dio.

Originally meant as a way to ward off the devil. Appropriated in the 80s to mean the opposite.

Now, as others have said, mostly for &amp;quot;Rockin&amp;quot;, particularly if the turned down fingers point to you.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: what does this sign mean?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/147944?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 13:15:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:13ab4e92-5418-4ba9-8c11-442014c34c56</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Yikes, we really have to ask this?

If the swimmer is from Texas, it&amp;#39;s probably a Longhorns thing. Otherwise, it&amp;#39;s just a sign for &amp;quot;rock!&amp;quot;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: what does this sign mean?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/148036?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:21:14 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:ec84fa16-6959-44c9-bcaa-853b2e5775d9</guid><dc:creator>moodyrichardson</dc:creator><description>Sign of the horns. &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sign_of_the_horns"&gt;en.wikipedia.org/.../Sign_of_the_horns&lt;/a&gt;
Really came from heavy metal made famous by Ronnie James Dio.
 
Yes, it&amp;#39;s when you&amp;#39;ve REALLY ROCKED on something!!! As in &amp;quot;I RAWK!!!&amp;quot;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: what does this sign mean?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/147792?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:21:19 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:9e7a9101-835c-4a4e-9c74-eebac6ac0a3f</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>It&amp;#39;s the sign of surrender for the little ut as the might TIDE steamed rolled them for the national championship. 

They displayed that sign as a white flag, in hopes that the Elephants wouldn&amp;#39;t trample them to death&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: what does this sign mean?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/147927?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 06:45:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:6f43e864-f95a-41ce-8336-1fd0f011f5de</guid><dc:creator>orca1946</dc:creator><description>A friend of mine says &amp;quot;I love you &amp;quot; It must be going out to someone at home.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: what does this sign mean?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/147895?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 05:06:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:85b7a2c0-b824-45bc-931b-6c082da8615f</guid><dc:creator>Sea Goon</dc:creator><description>At first glance I thought this thread was about the freestyle drill where you make an &amp;quot;OK&amp;quot; sign with your thumb and forefinger as they enter the water. :laugh2:&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: what does this sign mean?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/147867?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 03:25:32 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:b757958a-6fb3-4180-bf72-2a22bcfbe5be</guid><dc:creator>Michael Heather</dc:creator><description>Sometimes - when you just have to rock too hard, you put your fists together and just hold out your pinkies - because its too much rock for one hand!

Also - it means I Love You. Your pinky is the &amp;quot;I&amp;quot; the index finger and the thumb is an &amp;quot;L&amp;quot; and the index finger and the pinky is a &amp;quot;Y&amp;quot;

In any case, everyone has their own interpretation. I for one would vouch on the rock symbol, only because of the context its usually used.

Almost. In ASL (American Sign Language), the pinky up is the letter I, the index up with thumb extended is the letter L. The combination of both at once is a common sign for the deaf to say, &amp;quot;I love You.&amp;quot; Y is not part of the sign, it is implied since one has to see it being given.

Ryan&amp;#39;s sign does not seem to have the thumb out, and relative to his age and demeanor, I would concur that he is giving the &amp;quot;rock on&amp;quot; sign.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: what does this sign mean?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/147773?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 03:16:21 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:0383b955-b931-4257-aaf6-2ec67a83e15e</guid><dc:creator>swimshark</dc:creator><description>Sometimes - when you just have to rock too hard, you put your fists together and just hold out your pinkies - because its too much rock for one hand!

Also - it means I Love You. Your pinky is the &amp;quot;I&amp;quot; the index finger and the thumb is an &amp;quot;L&amp;quot; and the index finger and the pinky is a &amp;quot;Y&amp;quot;

In any case, everyone has their own interpretation. I for one would vouch on the rock symbol, only because of the context its usually used.

Ryan never has his thumb out for the &amp;quot;L&amp;quot; so in his case, it&amp;#39;s not the &amp;quot;I love you&amp;quot; from sign language.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: what does this sign mean?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/147754?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 01:20:28 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:e7e7687f-e904-467f-9bf4-90e3b091f39a</guid><dc:creator>no200fly</dc:creator><description>It&amp;#39;s the horns!

&amp;quot;In Italy, pointing the index and little finger at someone is ...  an accusation of having an unfaithful wife.&amp;quot;

My brother married a girl from Italy. She was quite surprised when she saw her first University of Texas football game and 70,000 people making an obscene gesture.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: what does this sign mean?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/147731?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 09:56:22 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:3612b15d-f640-4b01-a862-06a31e8475ed</guid><dc:creator>bzaks1424</dc:creator><description>Sometimes - when you just have to rock too hard, you put your fists together and just hold out your pinkies - because its too much rock for one hand!

Also - it means I Love You. Your pinky is the &amp;quot;I&amp;quot; the index finger and the thumb is an &amp;quot;L&amp;quot; and the index finger and the pinky is a &amp;quot;Y&amp;quot;

In any case, everyone has their own interpretation. I for one would vouch on the rock symbol, only because of the context its usually used.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: what does this sign mean?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/147714?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 09:08:43 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:e03fe694-a452-469b-b54a-3cf1b0af7cdd</guid><dc:creator>swimshark</dc:creator><description>It also means &amp;quot;Rock on!&amp;quot;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: what does this sign mean?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/147642?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 06:05:50 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:c5bf0a78-7e32-471d-bc83-830a78b55c62</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>It&amp;#39;s the horns!&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: what does this sign mean?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/147581?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 05:48:49 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:419f7430-80ae-4a37-b2fc-5f125fb24203</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>You know, I saw Ricky Berens do that once at a meet last year when his named was announced before a race and I just assumed it was some kind of Longhorns signal, since he goes to U Texas (or did- I don&amp;#39;t know if he&amp;#39;s graduated). And since a lot of big US swimmers are at Texas, that might explain why you see some swimmers doing that. Ande would know more... 

But Lochte doesn&amp;#39;t have anything to do with the Longhorns, so... that doesn&amp;#39;t answer that, still.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>