Diana Nyad: Extreme Dream

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knelson — Tue, 24 Sep 2013 11:31:31 GMT

however the jurisdiction for the call is only with the Finnish Judge. And it's really hard to get those guys out of the sauna, so usually no one is there to make the call...

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Rob Copeland — Tue, 24 Sep 2013 08:41:18 GMT

If he didn't do two hand, simultaneous touch on shore is it a dq? :bolt:Open water butterfly has a couple of variations from pool butterfly. At the start and before getting into swimming depth water - The swimmer is allowed to walk on the bottom and the “movements of the legs and feet must be simultaneous.” is not enforced, however the swimmer may hop on in if they want. “A scissors kicking movement is not permitted” while walking in. And the 15 Meter rule is not enforced, unless the course is clearly marked and an official is stationed to make the call. During stops for feedings – Requirements “the body shall be kept on the ***” and “Both arms must be brought forward over the water and pulled back simultaneously” are relaxed. At the finish – When finishing up a beach, walking is allowed with the finish recorded when the feet touch dry land. If the finish is against a cliff or vertical structure a two hand touch is required; however the jurisdiction for the call is only with the Finnish Judge.

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Glenn — Tue, 24 Sep 2013 06:36:20 GMT

Open water butterfly has a couple of variations from pool butterfly. At the start and before getting into swimming depth water - The swimmer is allowed to walk on the bottom and the “movements of the legs and feet must be simultaneous.” is not enforced, however the swimmer may hop on in if they want. “A scissors kicking movement is not permitted” while walking in. And the 15 Meter rule is not enforced, unless the course is clearly marked and an official is stationed to make the call. During stops for feedings – Requirements “the body shall be kept on the ***” and “Both arms must be brought forward over the water and pulled back simultaneously” are relaxed. At the finish – When finishing up a beach, walking is allowed with the finish recorded when the feet touch dry land. If the finish is against a cliff or vertical structure a two hand touch is required; however the jurisdiction for the call is only with the Finnish Judge. I think you should have saved this one for April...

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knelson — Tue, 24 Sep 2013 02:59:23 GMT

I thought the “bazinga” was implied. It was. Just trying to work with ya!

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Rob Copeland — Tue, 24 Sep 2013 02:34:15 GMT

And it's really hard to get those guys out of the sauna, so usually no one is there to make the call...I thought the “bazinga” was implied.

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Former Member — Mon, 23 Sep 2013 10:04:46 GMT

Sylle's English Channel Butterfly Swim Dr. Julie Bradshaw retains the record for fastest butterfly swim across the English Channel (May 8, 2002; 14 hr 18 min). An impressive swim! Sylle had a stroke marshall on board.... legal b-fly from the first stroke to the last!

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poolraat — Mon, 23 Sep 2013 08:10:42 GMT

Yeah, but he didn't have to worry about two-hand touches! :) If he didn't do two hand, simultaneous touch on shore is it a dq? :bolt:

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Chris Stevenson — Mon, 23 Sep 2013 07:56:58 GMT

Sylle had a stroke marshall on board.... legal b-fly from the first stroke to the last! So I'm just picturing the scene: he finishes the channel all butterfly to thunderous applause, only to see the judge hand him a DQ slip... (Man, I was upset when I was deeked in a 400 IM, thinking about all the pain I could have avoided.)

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knelson — Mon, 23 Sep 2013 06:36:36 GMT

Sylle had a stroke marshall on board.... legal b-fly from the first stroke to the last! Yeah, but he didn't have to worry about two-hand touches! :)

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flystorms — Mon, 23 Sep 2013 03:51:02 GMT

Wow both feats are freakin' incredible! I can barely do a 50 without hurling. LOL!

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Swimosaur — Sun, 22 Sep 2013 09:51:34 GMT

Sylle's English Channel Butterfly Swim Sylvain has made it to France!! 16h41m. First male to swim the English Channel in butterfly!! Dr. Julie Bradshaw retains the record for fastest butterfly swim across the English Channel (May 8, 2002; 14 hr 18 min). An impressive swim!

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Swimosaur — Sun, 22 Sep 2013 09:26:24 GMT

Latest entry in the category "Ridiculously Difficult Marathon Swims" Almost there!

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Swimosaur — Sun, 22 Sep 2013 03:24:14 GMT

Latest entry in the category "Ridiculously Difficult Marathon Swims", This month, Sylvain Estadieu will make an attempt. If he succeeds, he will be the first man to cross the English channel all butterfly. He started this morning at 9 AM, local time. As of now, he's been swimming butterfly for a little over 11 hours. Track is here.

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Former Member — Tue, 10 Sep 2013 16:06:01 GMT

Just saw this today: Diana Nyad's team hit back at claims she cheated in swim from Cuba to Florida daring doubters to 'show us the proof'

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knelson — Tue, 10 Sep 2013 12:23:49 GMT

Gee, I would think the onus of proof is on her team. This is a pretty silly tactic if they choose to use it.

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magick17 — Mon, 09 Sep 2013 08:42:41 GMT

Thanks for the info..didn't know

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JanSwim — Mon, 09 Sep 2013 05:23:27 GMT

Nyad plans to meet with swimmers doubting her feat. That article doesn't give a time and place, but the Marathon Swimming forum thread about DN's epic swim puts that time and channel at "Monday (09-09-2013) at 8:00 P.M. EST Anderson Cooper (AC360) on CNN". An admin at the Marathon forum says that Diana and her team, a moderator and many of those questioning her will be present (about 20 people). I hope this will clear up all the questions about her swim!

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Allen Stark — Mon, 09 Sep 2013 02:44:34 GMT

I just got to wondering,how did she put on and take off her anti-jellyfish suit in the water? My wife put hers on to swim in the ocean today and it would seem to be quite a trick to put one on while treading water.

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jaadams1 — Fri, 06 Sep 2013 11:25:04 GMT

Yes. We get our swims kicked out if the pool was .0001 of an inch too short. She definitely has to prove and verify that everything was legit for WR consideration. 48 hours with no sleep and constant swimming sounds appalling to this wee sprinter. Marathon swimmers are a strange, and to be very much admired, breed. So I guess you'd call us 500/1650 folks "sprinters" in the scheme of things. No way I'd get caught doing something that long, unless I'm driving in a car. Even a bike ride for me that far is a bit much.

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evmo — Fri, 06 Sep 2013 09:34:12 GMT

&& Darren Miller the first American to complete Oceans Seven www.darren-miller.com Huge respect to Darren, but Michelle Macy was the first American.

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magick17 — Fri, 06 Sep 2013 09:18:38 GMT

&& Darren Miller the first American to complete Oceans Seven www.darren-miller.com

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Former Member — Thu, 05 Sep 2013 14:47:07 GMT

Keith and Bradshaw are the only two people to have done it thus far. This month, Sylvain Estadieu will make an attempt. If he succeeds, he will be the first man to cross the English channel all butterfly. I like the fact that two women have done what no man has done!

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Former Member — Thu, 05 Sep 2013 12:43:46 GMT

Not to take anything away from DN’s success in selling the extreme dream to the world, but there are a good many inspiring stories happening all the time in the world of amature Marathon Swimming that are equally deserving of adulation. Here are a few from just the past couple of weeks: www.marathonswimmers.org/.../p1 Wendy Trehiou, Cancer survivor, 39 hour double English Channel crossing on a spring tide http://patgalant.blogspot.com/ Pat Galant-Charette, 62 yrs old, in pursuit of the Ocean’s Seven http://channeledin.com/ Alli Defrancesco, Cancer survivor, Channel Swimmer openwaterpedia.com/index.php Marcy MacDonald just completed her THIRD, DOUBLE ENGLISH CHANNEL CROSSING ....just a few of the many women in the OW community I bow down to.

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philoswimmer — Thu, 05 Sep 2013 11:35:56 GMT

indeed, but all those other swims were done in water at least 23 degrees colder Which is very, very impressive. But a different sort of impressive from swimming so long and so far. Especially at 64.

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Swimosaur — Thu, 05 Sep 2013 10:13:22 GMT

....just a few of the many women in the OW community I bow down to. Not to mention (just some of the low hanging fruit in this inspiring sport), Vicki Keith -- First butterfly swim across the English Channel (July 10, 1989; 23 hr 33 min). Dr. Julie Bradshaw -- Fastest butterfly swim across the English Channel (May 8, 2002; 14 hr 18 min). Keith and Bradshaw are the only two people to have done it thus far. This month, Sylvain Estadieu will make an attempt. If he succeeds, he will be the first man to cross the English channel all butterfly. 30 Open Water Swimmers Known By One Name These open water swimmers are luminaries of the sport. They are so renowned that any mention of their first name is immediately recognizable in the open water swimming world. Their reputations and exploits, their attempts and successes, their travels and their writings are extraordinarily well-known among open water swimmers and many people in the general public ... dailynews.openwaterswimming.com/.../30-open-water-swimmers-known-by-one-name.html