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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://community.usms.org/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Tech Suit Proposal - How about a vote?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/swimming/f/general/9252/tech-suit-proposal---how-about-a-vote</link><description>Here is the text of letter sent today by swimmer, John Quinn, to the leadership of SPMA. Basically, he is calling for a vote on tech suits, something that should have been done prior to USMS decision to join in FINA&amp;#39;s ban of techsuits: 
 

 June 23, 2010</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 12</generator><item><title>RE: Tech Suit Proposal - How about a vote?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/146726?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 16:28:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:b2391464-7fd4-44af-be56-20e76c7af5c9</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>This &amp;quot;new&amp;quot; poll (on another thread) is launched in an effort to quiet swimmers who  felt 

&lt;a href="http://changingminds.org/explanations/preferences/thinking_feeling.htm"&gt;changingminds.org/.../thinking_feeling.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Tech Suit Proposal - How about a vote?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/146586?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 14:57:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:af734016-d075-47af-8033-a0b21bffb1bf</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Holy cow, I never noticed that in all these years.  Is the extra &amp;quot;e&amp;quot; for &amp;quot;extra furry?&amp;quot;

You need to ask UNC for a refund.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Tech Suit Proposal - How about a vote?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/146430?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 14:05:14 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:dc7f1a07-b603-44e3-a0ea-b006bbfd7583</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I&amp;#39;d like to vote Wookie off the island.

I would like for you to learn to spell &amp;quot;wookiee&amp;quot;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Tech Suit Proposal - How about a vote?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/146308?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:53:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:5251a9eb-f0b7-4c4f-a3b7-2cd565295b6c</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>how about a vote?
this dead horse has been beaten into dust.....

even i have run out of snarky little snippets regarding this matter.

its summer; lose the suit and go play in the ocean.

:applaud::applaud::applaud::applaud::applaud::applaud::applaud::applaud::applaud::applaud::applaud:


(except the play in the ocean part...open water swimming..no thanks)&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Tech Suit Proposal - How about a vote?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/146190?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 12:46:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:d6fd49fb-eccd-4a46-acdd-f4e96df54762</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>how about a vote?
this dead horse has been beaten into dust.....

even i have run out of snarky little snippets regarding this matter.

its summer; lose the suit and go play in the ocean.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Tech Suit Proposal - How about a vote?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/146710?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 11:52:58 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:0ba1e793-69f4-48f9-a8d1-90ebdf0ad6f8</guid><dc:creator>Ahelee Sue Osborn</dc:creator><description>Also, is it at all typical to poll athletes for rules changes? It seems to me in most sports it is not the athletes who get to dictate what the rules should be.

This &amp;quot;new&amp;quot; poll (on another thread) is launched in an effort to quiet swimmers who  felt they did not have a voice in the decisions made in masters swimming  last year.

Regardless of the outcome, there is no doubt that this USMS Discussion  Forum represents only a very small percentage of the membership. 

Communication out to coaches who will then speak to their swimmers is  the only solution for flowing out new information.
However we still don&amp;#39;t have direct communication with a large  percent of masters coaches and workout group leaders.

Until that situation improves, there are always going to be  athletes paying their USMS dues with no voice in the decisions of the  organization.

I&amp;#39;m very happy we finally have a paid Club Development Committee at  USMS. 
Hope to see them choose coach communication as their #1 priority.
(only my personal opinion)&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Tech Suit Proposal - How about a vote?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/146689?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 11:12:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:7bb252bc-0127-4777-b182-c1a4db255bb4</guid><dc:creator>Chris Stevenson</dc:creator><description>Can triathletes wear them in competition?

Not after Sept 1, I believe.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Tech Suit Proposal - How about a vote?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/146553?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:21:57 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:69ecc503-df04-4447-8793-6d6ef4957ee4</guid><dc:creator>knelson</dc:creator><description>&amp;quot;10. The Chair wrapped up the swim suit discussion by reminding the audience that she had directed the Rules Committee members to poll their local swimmers and to review the USMS discussion forums to gain insight as to the wishes of the USMS members.&amp;quot;

And it was debated here extensively. The idea that somehow USMS enacted this rule unilaterally and without sufficient input from the membership seems bizarre to me.

Also it seems a little disingenuous to me to say the membership wasn&amp;#39;t adequately polled, so because of this we should allow tech suits for short course yards. Where&amp;#39;s the polling for this decision?

edit: OK, I see now that this proposal is calling for polling of the SPMA membership, but it doesn&amp;#39;t really say what the results need to be to go ahead with the amendment. Also, is it at all typical to poll athletes for rules changes? It seems to me in most sports it is not the athletes who get to dictate what the rules should be.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Tech Suit Proposal - How about a vote?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/146538?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:15:33 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:c24504e3-da34-4b60-8d1e-62c336926dc3</guid><dc:creator>gigi</dc:creator><description>I&amp;#39;m just a bystander in the tech-suit issue and I&amp;#39;m no business woman BUT
if USS swimmers can&amp;#39;t wear the suits
and NCAA swimmers can&amp;#39;t wear the suits
and FINA swimmers can&amp;#39;t wear the suits...
 
is it economically possible for a company to turn a profit selling a product ONLY to a certain portion of the masters swimming community?  It just doesn&amp;#39;t seem to be enough of a consumer base if the only people using them are Masters swimmers.
 
Can triathletes wear them in competition?&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Tech Suit Proposal - How about a vote?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/146509?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:14:53 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:a848792a-0ca2-4779-86c6-f9f7e451d726</guid><dc:creator>aquageek</dc:creator><description>I would like for you to learn to spell &amp;quot;wookiee&amp;quot;

Holy cow, I never noticed that in all these years.  Is the extra &amp;quot;e&amp;quot; for &amp;quot;extra furry?&amp;quot;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Tech Suit Proposal - How about a vote?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/146412?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 09:56:20 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:964b9b09-db29-4751-aa03-437f49739808</guid><dc:creator>aquageek</dc:creator><description>I&amp;#39;d like to vote Wookie off the island.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Tech Suit Proposal - How about a vote?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/146283?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 09:29:35 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:626f8537-5013-4c03-8260-bc9ad478d5d0</guid><dc:creator>swimshark</dc:creator><description>how about a vote?
this dead horse has been beaten into dust.....

even i have run out of snarky little snippets regarding this matter.

its summer; lose the suit and go play in the ocean.

:applaud::applaud::applaud:&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Tech Suit Proposal - How about a vote?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/146157?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 08:16:20 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:d2bce103-5650-4a65-9cb8-4142dee04863</guid><dc:creator>aquageek</dc:creator><description>&amp;quot;Last edited by matysekj; June 23rd, 2010 at 08:25  PM.&amp;quot;

Is there any reason the original post was edited by a USMS staff member?




Cause he has the power.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>