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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://community.usms.org/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>How bad is it to swim in a practice suit at nationals</title><link>https://community.usms.org/swimming/f/general/8779/how-bad-is-it-to-swim-in-a-practice-suit-at-nationals</link><description>Could anyone give me their thoughts on swimming at masters nationals in a practice suit? 

Will people think I&amp;#39;m out to prove something or can you really wear what you want without judgment at nationals? Won&amp;#39;t my *team* be annoyed at my not wearing the</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 12</generator><item><title>RE: How bad is it to swim in a practice suit at nationals</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/138194?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 16:37:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:8b4ecff9-a7fd-4129-b991-fb6595714eae</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Could anyone give me their thoughts on swimming at masters nationals in a practice suit? 
 
Who gives a crap.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: How bad is it to swim in a practice suit at nationals</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/138255?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 07:48:22 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:a8d868d4-34c9-43b6-9987-30824e796fad</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I think I got more than my share of admiring glances at Indy Nats when I graced the pool deck with my cow print too-tight practice suit.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: How bad is it to swim in a practice suit at nationals</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/138082?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 13:05:45 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:025e9366-19f5-41d3-9d17-1fe8f9142f15</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>it&amp;#39;s REALLY bad to swim in a practice suit at nationals


Why?&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: How bad is it to swim in a practice suit at nationals</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/138169?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 11:21:04 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:b93c7e4e-93fe-43fb-b622-0a62ca09b1cb</guid><dc:creator>jessicafk11</dc:creator><description>Hopefully not too bad.  I love swimming but have no plans (or free cash for that matter) to buy a &amp;quot;meet suit.&amp;quot;  I like my practice suit and I would wear it without a second thought.  
 
Wear whatever you are comfortable with (assuming it&amp;#39;s legal) and wear it proudly!&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: How bad is it to swim in a practice suit at nationals</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/138136?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 08:51:53 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:4a32ca2e-502c-4555-b66d-333a62acdd99</guid><dc:creator>KEWebb18</dc:creator><description>I think that there is a difference between a new suit that you would wear for practice and one that you have worn for a while that is stretched out.
IMO, if you want to put yourself in the best situation to swim fast then wear a fast suit.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: How bad is it to swim in a practice suit at nationals</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/138060?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 03:18:31 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:a7c64b1d-42b3-4442-83ad-2aef2587122a</guid><dc:creator>ande</dc:creator><description>it&amp;#39;s REALLY bad to swim in a practice suit at nationals
wait to see what&amp;#39;s legal before you get a suit for Nats

USMS is run by level headed and fair minded folks. If suits are banned for SCY I hope they make the cut off date may 31st 2010 since some swimmers already have swims in the 2009 - 2010 SCY season wearing next gen tech suits like B70.  but we&amp;#39;re likely to adopt the same rules as FINA &amp;amp; USA Swimming

Further I don&amp;#39;t know how much of a difference there is between a $300 LZR jammer &amp;amp; a $100 Speedo PRO jammer

here&amp;#39;s a few that are legal for USS Meets

MEN
Speedo FS PRO Jammers
or 
TYR Tracer Light Jammer

Women:
Tyr Tracer Light Short John
or the
Speedo FS Pro Recordbreaker Kneeskin



Could anyone give me their thoughts on swimming at masters nationals in a practice suit? 

Will people think I&amp;#39;m out to prove something or can you really wear what you want without judgment at nationals? Won&amp;#39;t my *team* be annoyed at my not wearing the best suit particularly when I wore the fastest thing on the market for the past year or two?

I see that the new Speedo LZRs are close to $400 after shipping and tax. This is close to the B70 price. I have many a *now* illegal speed suit and I don&amp;#39;t feel like continuing to play the game by buying yet another suit that I think is inferior to what&amp;#39;s out there. Thoughts?&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: How bad is it to swim in a practice suit at nationals</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/137997?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 14:18:34 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:46b1459b-1e86-43a2-8f36-a5436c4a4fc9</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I appreciate all the responses. Next to figure out how much time to add to my seed times. :confused:&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: How bad is it to swim in a practice suit at nationals</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/137884?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 13:30:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:4573ac48-a29e-4182-8463-7e47b56fb73a</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>How on earth is the Speedo LZR at $400 different from the Pro at $250?  Even thinner?

Cooler name.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: How bad is it to swim in a practice suit at nationals</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/137444?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 12:27:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:529f9bef-b968-4cb9-8692-a4f6ea740547</guid><dc:creator>tjrpatt</dc:creator><description>I think that you can find a cheap racing jammer online without paying an arm and a leg for the new Jammers from Speedo and blue 70. Heck, that is the route that i will do for my taper meets.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: How bad is it to swim in a practice suit at nationals</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/137423?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 12:21:51 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:d8790be0-b40a-4294-aade-2e6092798089</guid><dc:creator>SLOmmafan</dc:creator><description>Well, now that tech suits are effeicively banned for use in competition, you will most likely see a lot less full body suits around major competition (even Master&amp;#39;s).  I don&amp;#39;t think people will be overly judgemental about whatever style of suit you choose to swim in - I regularly compete in a traditional &amp;quot;speedo&amp;quot; at smaller meets.  Generally swim in a jammer at major meets.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: How bad is it to swim in a practice suit at nationals</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/137810?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 10:53:53 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:3decfe57-1493-42b3-8b7a-7edd52f07003</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I think you ought to race in whatever you&amp;#39;re comfortable in (that&amp;#39;s legal, of course!).  I think, because so many people spent so much on the tech suits, that you&amp;#39;ll see a smattering of different suits... granted lots of jammers, but the thing is--What do you want to race in?  In interviews during the Championships in Indy last year, Aaron Peirsol was asked &amp;quot;Why didn&amp;#39;t you wear the full suit?&amp;quot; (paraphrased)...and his answer was simple: Aaron didn&amp;#39;t &amp;quot;feel like it&amp;quot;.  Since he won the race, (and a World Record), he added, &amp;quot;I think this was good enough...it got the job done&amp;quot;.  It was the BEST interview shown of the whole Championships because it gave the spirit of a winner...the winning isn&amp;#39;t about the suit, it&amp;#39;s about the person in it!!
 
Good luck!  Happy waters...
 
bridge&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: How bad is it to swim in a practice suit at nationals</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/137967?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 09:08:07 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:0672ed97-9bf7-4780-a747-e1258a7d1851</guid><dc:creator>kristilynn</dc:creator><description>One of my teammates wore a poly Speedo endurance for her 200 fly at Nationals in Clovis last May, and I certainly don&amp;#39;t think that anyone cared at all.  We (her teammates) just thought that she was an animal because we&amp;#39;d take any advantage we could to survive a 200 fly.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: How bad is it to swim in a practice suit at nationals</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/137575?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 06:36:38 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:1a7ca790-923d-45d9-8fc2-8112bdfb09d3</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>The materials don&amp;#39;t conform to the current rules. You could alter something like a FS Pro legs to make it into a jammer, though, because it doesn&amp;#39;t use non-porous materials.
 
I think it was a FS Pro now that you mention it. I don&amp;#39;t know all the names of the tech suits since I never wore one.
 
Although I will be getting whatever the highest legal tech jammer there is for Nationals in May.:D&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: How bad is it to swim in a practice suit at nationals</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/137463?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 06:02:31 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:e6a8fc3b-d8e8-4773-b8c6-77c2e6b1d839</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>My brother was telling me about someone who took their full legs suit to a seamstress and had it altered to a jammer....only cost him like $14.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: How bad is it to swim in a practice suit at nationals</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/137769?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 04:33:34 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:5324f373-a938-4c28-bf20-e089389e2613</guid><dc:creator>knelson</dc:creator><description>And I agree with Fortress that no one will care. Even though there have been lots of tech suits at recent USMS Nationals doesn&amp;#39;t mean everyone is wearing one. Plenty of people were still swimming in briefs, jammers, recreational suits, you name it.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: How bad is it to swim in a practice suit at nationals</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/137727?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 04:03:01 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:20def5a4-c2ed-43c5-819f-9e765a3c18da</guid><dc:creator>The Fortress</dc:creator><description>Could anyone give me their thoughts on swimming at masters nationals in a practice suit? 

Will people think I&amp;#39;m out to prove something or can you really wear what you want without judgment at nationals? Won&amp;#39;t my *team* be annoyed at my not wearing the best suit particularly when I wore the fastest thing on the market for the past year or two?

I see that the new Speedo LZRs are close to $400 after shipping and tax. This is close to the B70 price. I have many a *now* illegal speed suit and I don&amp;#39;t feel like continuing to play the game by buying yet another suit that I think is inferior to what&amp;#39;s out there. Thoughts?

Wear whatever you want.  I never waste time worrying about what other people think about what I wear at meets.

How on earth is the Speedo LZR at $400 different from the Pro at $250?  Even thinner?&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: How bad is it to swim in a practice suit at nationals</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/137691?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 03:49:18 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:72b2530a-5ad5-4e93-bf6b-ff6f2f34cb35</guid><dc:creator>Allen Stark</dc:creator><description>As long as it&amp;#39;s a legal suit,no one should care!&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: How bad is it to swim in a practice suit at nationals</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/137665?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 02:55:18 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:bc343174-9eb1-46cc-8627-b5c1ce5d294b</guid><dc:creator>Kristen</dc:creator><description>Too bad.  :D  
I&amp;#39;ve actually never worn one... so, i guess I won&amp;#39;t be missing anything.  I&amp;#39;m probably just going to keep wearing my normal suit... even for nationals.  It has skulls and crossbones on it... so, i can pretend it&amp;#39;s &amp;#39;high-tech&amp;#39;.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: How bad is it to swim in a practice suit at nationals</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/137646?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 02:49:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:dfd63c05-5918-44fc-879a-09b747b71565</guid><dc:creator>beluga</dc:creator><description>Can we do that? Is it legal to wear a doctored &amp;#39;illegal&amp;#39; suit? Cause, I was thinking the same thing... they are being sold at super-great prices now that we can&amp;#39;t wear them in competition!
 
According to FINA rules, I doubt it. I recall there was something prohibitting customization of approved suits. 1st a suit w/ legs isn&amp;#39;t approved, 2nd cutting the legs of would be customizing.
 
For masters, I don&amp;#39;t see why anyone would care, 
 
(but I&amp;#39;m no where near the level of setting records, top ten etc, so I doubt anyone cares what suit I wear, and given my physique, most would probably prefer I wear a full body suit)&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: How bad is it to swim in a practice suit at nationals</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/137547?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 01:21:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:6fda10bc-aceb-431c-ae36-57127c02170c</guid><dc:creator>knelson</dc:creator><description>Can we do that?  Is it legal to wear a doctored &amp;#39;illegal&amp;#39; suit?  Cause, I was thinking the same thing... they are being sold at super-great prices now that we can&amp;#39;t wear them in competition!

No, you couldn&amp;#39;t legally alter a suit like the Speedo LZR. The materials don&amp;#39;t conform to the current rules. You could alter something like a FS Pro legs to make it into a jammer, though, because it doesn&amp;#39;t use non-porous materials.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: How bad is it to swim in a practice suit at nationals</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/137523?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 01:18:28 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:1ed8f1de-3d8e-4891-ade7-cd2516434239</guid><dc:creator>Kristen</dc:creator><description>Can we do that?  Is it legal to wear a doctored &amp;#39;illegal&amp;#39; suit?  Cause, I was thinking the same thing... they are being sold at super-great prices now that we can&amp;#39;t wear them in competition!&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>