Overnight success!!

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orca1946 — Sun, 06 Dec 2009 12:32:51 GMT

All sports have a learning curve. Tri people take the challange to do 3 at a time.

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Former Member — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 11:22:20 GMT

When I was swimming regularly and in good shape, I was able to build up to running 6 miles nonstop in my 3rd run in 5 years (with NO talent for running). I was able to build up to a slow 25 mile hot, hilly bikeride in a few weeks (also no recent history on a bicycle). Neither of these very mediocre accomplishments required technique instruction nor much sport-specific training. On the other hand, I see a lot of very fit runners and cyclists who have poor technique and cannot relax in the pool to manage more than 50 yards without needing a rest. The leaner they are, the more they tend to struggle against sinking. So - in order to excel, yes, technique is very important in all 3 disciplines. Fitness is also very important in all 3. But with goals to just finish a triathlon, technique is most important in the swim despite fitness levels.

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swimshark — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 04:12:18 GMT

It probably makes sense to be mindful of your spelling before posting a large and sweeping statement that says triathletes are usually stupid. Amen. I agree since my dad, sister and brother-in-law are regular triathletes and I have done a few. My sister is one who has represented the US in the World Triathlon Championships. And we are far from stupid.

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Former Member — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 13:57:47 GMT

You guys are clueless about running, as evidenced by the "run/jog" comment. That's like saying anyone can swim/noodle for 20 minutes without worrying about technique or doing any serious training. Ahem Seems like the Trigeeks are a bit sensitive

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Former Member — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 13:26:43 GMT

Since the majority of triathletes are very guliable (stupid usually) probably makes sense to advertize this way. This reminds me of the Paid Infomercials on TV for Extenze. THIS IS BILLIE MAYS FOR!!!!!!!! ----------------------------------------------------------------- TCSD, If you're struggling with your swimming, then this lecture you will not want to miss! I have heard from plenty of people who have dropped considerable time from their swimming OVERNIGHT, after just listening to this lecture, and applying it to their swimming. What: "Learning and Understanding the 3 Most Important Technical Aspects of Swimming" When: Wednesday, December 16th, 2009 6:15 - 7:30 PM Where: Nytro Who: Anyone who is struggling with swimming, or wants to get faster in the water! This lecture will help athletes understand what they want to accomplish in the water, not just throwing one arm in front of the other. Even if you've already been to this or similar lectures, I've improved it with some new concepts, analogies and aspects which will help you improve your swimming OVERNIGHT! If you haven't seen it, then don't miss this chance! Hope to see you there! Jim ___________________________________ Jim Vance TrainingBible Coaching Triathletes are stupid? Really? How did you decide you are so superior to them? If triathletes are stupid then you must be the king of jackasses

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Former Member — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 13:15:04 GMT

Extenze worked for me and my team. That's me two from the right.:) :banana:

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Former Member — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 13:11:39 GMT

Since the majority of triathletes are very guliable (stupid usually) probably makes sense to advertize this way. It probably makes sense to be mindful of your spelling before posting a large and sweeping statement that says triathletes are usually stupid.

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Former Member — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 12:17:15 GMT

You guys are clueless about running, as evidenced by the "run/jog" comment. That's like saying anyone can swim/noodle for 20 minutes without worrying about technique or doing any serious training.

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Former Member — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 11:45:56 GMT

I have met stupid people in every sport I have attempted. I see all kinds of people run/jog for 40 minutes. I don't see all kinds of people swim without stopping for 20 minutes. I know that is anecdotal, so be it. Seems like the Trigeeks are a bit sensitive though. Jimbo is trying to make a buck. Good for him, this is America.

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elise526 — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 11:18:59 GMT

Since the majority of triathletes are very guliable (stupid usually) probably makes sense to advertize this way. This reminds me of the Paid Infomercials on TV for Extenze. THIS IS BILLIE MAYS FOR!!!!!!!! ----------------------------------------------------------------- TCSD, If you're struggling with your swimming, then this lecture you will not want to miss! I have heard from plenty of people who have dropped considerable time from their swimming OVERNIGHT, after just listening to this lecture, and applying it to their swimming. What: "Learning and Understanding the 3 Most Important Technical Aspects of Swimming" When: Wednesday, December 16th, 2009 6:15 - 7:30 PM Where: Nytro Who: Anyone who is struggling with swimming, or wants to get faster in the water! This lecture will help athletes understand what they want to accomplish in the water, not just throwing one arm in front of the other. Even if you've already been to this or similar lectures, I've improved it with some new concepts, analogies and aspects which will help you improve your swimming OVERNIGHT! If you haven't seen it, then don't miss this chance! Hope to see you there! Jim ___________________________________ Jim Vance TrainingBible Coaching Having coached triathletes, I have seen some literally improve overnight. It is amazing what a few changes in approach, technique, and training methods can do. There is much more validity to this advertisement than the ones I've seen that target women with "cellulite" problems.

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aquageek — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 10:58:01 GMT

The hardest core triathletes I know are also the most educated people I know. Just cause you can't keep up on your bike or swim with us doesn't mean we are stupid.

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Former Member — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 09:52:15 GMT

It might have a greater impact in the swim might? Anyway, if you noticed, I did not refer to cycling in my previous post, and as for running, I stand by my statement. Here, to make it little more clear. One can run 40min without learning how to run, one can cycling under the hour without learning how to cycle (other maybe from getting a decent areo bike fit), but swimming under 20m without spending several hundred of hours in learning how to swim is unlikely.

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Former Member — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 09:18:03 GMT

The real problem for triathletes is that they show up to the pool and really have no concept of what they are trying to accomplish in the water. They just throw one arm in front of the other. The intent of this is to TEACH them about swimming, and concepts in swimming, from the simple, to the complex. Well that's fairly typical of triathletes coming from a non swimming background. When you run, you don't have to worry about how you put one foot in from of the other. But having been a professional full time coach, I can assure you, not to trigger any endless debates, but Triathletes usually have a great analytical sense. Most if not all of them appeared to me as being very smart. They just need to be explained that Triathlon involves training in 2 disciplines whilst learning in the 3rd one.

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Kurt Dickson — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 08:01:06 GMT

Extenze worked for me and my team. That's me two from the right.:)

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Former Member — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 06:20:35 GMT

Have you ever heard me speak on swimming? Have you done any research on my reputation and experience? The real problem for triathletes is that they show up to the pool and really have no concept of what they are trying to accomplish in the water. They just throw one arm in front of the other. The intent of this is to TEACH them about swimming, and concepts in swimming, from the simple, to the complex. Did you know I was a school teacher for many years? If you don't believe it, show up and listen, and see if you're right. If you think I am such a cheesy infomercial guy, and can explain why, I will no problem with you posting that. But if you're just posting random ANONYMOUS crap to slam an accomplished coach and elite athlete, then I think you're just making yourself look bad. Jim Vance

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aquageek — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 05:23:38 GMT

One can run 40min without learning how to run, one can cycling under the hour without learning how to cycle (other maybe from getting a decent areo bike fit), but swimming under 20m without spending several hundred of hours in learning how to swim is unlikely. You can stand by any flimsy statement you want. Every Y in America is populated by people who can swim 40 minutes with horrible form, in hot water to boot. As a non runner who is learning to be faster in the sport, it is the most confounding sport I've ever encountered. Technique is a huge part of running, not sure how you think it isn't. Runners are the most technical athletes I know. I don't know many people who can run 40 minutes without training, btw.

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Patrick W. Brundage — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 04:30:31 GMT

When you run, you don't have to worry about how you put one foot in from of the other. Not true. Technique matters in both the run and the bike. It might have a greater impact in the swim, but technique training is appropriate and valuable in all sports.

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jeffsab — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 03:35:15 GMT

I took a Triathlon 101 training course this past summer and about 90% of the "athletes" in the class could have improved overnight with even the most rudimentary swim coaching. And based on the swim times in the 3-event series the program was affiliated with, most of the non-beginners could have benefitted from some guidance. Let's be honest about triathletes: It's not that they're stupid, but most do not come from a competitive swimming background and for whatever reason do little to try and understand swimming the same way they approach cycling and running.