This WEEKEND! Nov 21-22

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Allen Stark — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:34:48 GMT

If you talk to Michael specifically about what he is doing you will find that he is unique to masters swimming - these days. It may have not always been so... Not so very unique in philosophy to some forumites who care a whole lot about how they swim. Michael has been in the swimming game - and masters for years. He is not a new comer. What he has done is change his focus and training philosophy 100% toward excellent technique. He has even created a buisiness around his passion for excellent swimming. I just read the Swimming World Magazine article featuring Bobby Patten from TX who did the same thing. These are swimmer-coaches and they work hard in and around the water all the time. They care about technique and learn more about better technique every day because they coach swimmers. The combination works like nothing else. I appreciate Fort, Ande, Chris, Allen and others who so openly share their training, racing errors and successes. The sharing of technique ideas and experimentation here on this forum is like no other anywhere. Today following the morning workout we are having a "race-prep" clinic for swimmers who are competing at the Long Beach Championships. We have many who are quite novice or even 1st time meet swimmers. When I spoke to a few of our national team members about coming out to help at the clinic, I was met with looks of surprise (I can't coach) and even indifference. It reminded me how people forget that the best way to learn to do something better is to teach the skill. Good Luck everyone race prepping this week. I hope you can find a swimmer to help tune-up along with you and then both swim FAST! Not long ago I was asked by a local team to give a clinic on breaststroke,I learned a tremendous amount about breaststroke preparing for the clinic.Finding words for ideas really reinforces them.

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Ahelee Sue Osborn — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 09:36:40 GMT

Every now and again someone comes on the scene and just destroys everything. This is Michael Mann. He is just SO much better than the rest of us right now it's frightening. This is what Masters swimming is all about. Hats off to you dude! The Man(n)! If you talk to Michael specifically about what he is doing you will find that he is unique to masters swimming - these days. It may have not always been so... Not so very unique in philosophy to some forumites who care a whole lot about how they swim. Michael has been in the swimming game - and masters for years. He is not a new comer. What he has done is change his focus and training philosophy 100% toward excellent technique. He has even created a buisiness around his passion for excellent swimming. I just read the Swimming World Magazine article featuring Bobby Patten from TX who did the same thing. These are swimmer-coaches and they work hard in and around the water all the time. They care about technique and learn more about better technique every day because they coach swimmers. The combination works like nothing else. I appreciate Fort, Ande, Chris, Allen and others who so openly share their training, racing errors and successes. The sharing of technique ideas and experimentation here on this forum is like no other anywhere. Today following the morning workout we are having a "race-prep" clinic for swimmers who are competing at the Long Beach Championships. We have many who are quite novice or even 1st time meet swimmers. When I spoke to a few of our national team members about coming out to help at the clinic, I was met with looks of surprise (I can't coach) and even indifference. It reminded me how people forget that the best way to learn to do something better is to teach the skill. Good Luck everyone race prepping this week. I hope you can find a swimmer to help tune-up along with you and then both swim FAST!

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Rich Abrahams — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:00:57 GMT

I have been paying a LOT of attention to Michael Mann. Let me say it straight out: this guy is blowing my mind! He is simply crushing world records that many of us thought were pretty good times (one of them was my record in the 200 IM...completely obliterated). Every now and again someone comes on the scene and just destroys everything. This is Michael Mann. He is just SO much better than the rest of us right now it's frightening. This is what Masters swimming is all about. Hats off to you dude! The Man(n)! Greg, Yesterday while out walking my dog I ran into a neighbor who congratulated me on being part of some record setting relays. I didn'r remember telling anyone so I asked how he knew. He said Mike, who he has some business dealings with. When I asked him what Mike had said about his own performances, he said he had done "alright." Believe me I set him straight. I'm totally with you Greg. His swims were truly mind blowing. Mike, if you're reading this, Chris and I both think you need a PR person or something. You make your freaking living on competitive swimming. People should know what you've accomplished. Rich

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Former Member — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:53:08 GMT

Michael Mann continued to rewrite the record book. Is there record for how many world records broken in a single year by one person? Michael Mann (men's 55-59 age group) 200 free, 1:59.08 (2:03.56) 400 free, 4:16.03 (4:24.92) 800 free, 8:51.34 (9:03.00) 200 IM, 2:16.44 (2:21.05) 400 IM, 4:51.97 (5:08.15) I have been paying a LOT of attention to Michael Mann. Let me say it straight out: this guy is blowing my mind! He is simply crushing world records that many of us thought were pretty good times (one of them was my record in the 200 IM...completely obliterated). Every now and again someone comes on the scene and just destroys everything. This is Michael Mann. He is just SO much better than the rest of us right now it's frightening. This is what Masters swimming is all about. Hats off to you dude! The Man(n)!

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tjrpatt — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 09:19:20 GMT

Only the West Coast gets their meets filmed?

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Allen Stark — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 09:11:18 GMT

No meet results for the Turkey SHoot meet - but we provide video proof of our records - check out Bob Strand: liveswim.net/.../ If anybody can help me "find" another second for my 100 Fly, I would appreciate it .... liveswim.net/.../ Thanks for the post.I was glad to see Bob's swim.As to your missing second,I think you could get some of it on your turns.In your turns you stay very low in the water and twist a little to the side instead of rapidly dropping your leading elbow and then spininng straight around with your trailing arm coming over near your ear(elbow the robber,call the cops.)

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Former Member — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:44:43 GMT

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ande — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:16:14 GMT

Thank y'all so much, I was happy to get the 100 IM record, it was 1:00.29, last year I went 1:00.32, so I was thrilled to break through. In san Antonio I swam it completely fresh. SCM is a short strange season, if you read through the record books you'll see that some SCM records are softer than the SCY or LCM records. Like for 45 - 49 men the: LCM fly recs are: 50 Fly Paul Smith 08-10-06 25.90 100 Fly Paul Carter 08-04-02 56.42 200 Fly Dennis G Baker 07-19-08 2:04.07 while the SCM fly recs are: 50 Fly Paul Smith 12-02-07 25.82 100 Fly Paul Carter 12-14-03 57.17 200 Fly Dennis Baker 11-19-06 2:06.4 Here's my blog about the 2008 RJ meet: I did not break the 100 fr record. David Guthrie called me & said "whoa man way to go, 51.4 in the 100 free. That's fast!" I told him I went for a 50 time in my 200 free, my first 50 was 24.5 (with a bad turn) my next 50 was 51.4, I did not go 51.4 for the 100 free, I wish. Soon as I got home, I sent FB message to jeff commings to correct it. Honestly, I've been having trouble with my 100 free & really haven't swum a good one since 1996 when I went 46.4. I split 54.9 at San Antonio, it was my 5th swim of the day, my last swim of the meet, I was tired & I thought there was no way we'd get the record. So I went out slow & died. Last year I went 54.5 100 SCM free at LB & 48.8 in the 100 free in the 2008 SCY nats. I hope to swim a better one at long beach next week & at atlanta. We'll see. To improve my 100 free, I think I need to: + More strength, + More speed, + race it fresh, + get psyched, + split it right, + hit my turns right, + do 6 SDKs off each wall in my race, + do more fast flutter kicking in practice, & + more Lactate 100 free swims in practice.

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Former Member — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:56:45 GMT

I saw Ande's 100 IM swim. He got after it. I didn't know it was a WR. I figured he was annoyed he didn't go sub 1:00!

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Former Member — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:46:53 GMT

In one year? Do you mean a FINA year (to Nov. 1) or a USMS year (to Dec. 31)? Didn't know that FINA and USMS had different years. What I do know, since January 1, 2009, Mike has set 12 new world records across SCY, LCM and SCM. A extraordinary accomplishment by anyone's standards.

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Former Member — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:09:41 GMT

www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/.../22784.asp Congrats to all the great swims !!! Nice warm-up to the big December meet weekend - now I also know what relay records not to try :) (thanks Colorado) .... Michael Mann continued to rewrite the record book. Is there record for how many world records broken in a single year by one person? Michael Mann (men's 55-59 age group) 200 free, 1:59.08 (2:03.56) 400 free, 4:16.03 (4:24.92) 800 free, 8:51.34 (9:03.00) 200 IM, 2:16.44 (2:21.05) 400 IM, 4:51.97 (5:08.15)

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knelson — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:15:28 GMT

And I thought he only set one world record. Check out Ande's 100m Free world record. That is super fast. That must be a personal masters best by about 2 seconds! Way to go Ande. I don't think this is correct. I looked at Ande's blog and he swam the 400 free relay, but didn't lead off and didn't swim that time, unless I missed something!

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Former Member — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:14:11 GMT

I don't think this is correct. I looked at Ande's blog and he swam the 400 free relay, but didn't lead off and didn't swim that time, unless I missed something! I got that quote from Lane 9 News, but I see the article must have been edited because it is missing now. I also went to check in Ande's blog and I see he went for a 50 split in the 200.

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Ahelee Sue Osborn — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:31:17 GMT

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Gail Roper — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:24:42 GMT

In one year? Do you mean a FINA year (to Nov. 1) or a USMS year (to Dec. 31)?

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Former Member — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:33:24 GMT

And I thought he only set one world record. Check out Ande's 100m Free world record. That is super fast. That must be a personal masters best by about 2 seconds! Way to go Ande. And in San Antonio, Texas, at the PAC Masters meet, Ande Rasmussen set two individual world records for the 45-49 age group. His first came in the 100 IM with a 1:00.14. The former record was 1:00.29. Later, he swam a 51.45 as a split in the 200 freestyle race to break the world record in the 100 freestyle, which was 52.54. Rasmussen was also a part of three world record-setting relays in the 200-239 age group, as part of Longhorn Masters.

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Former Member — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:55:01 GMT

DAM SCM Meet results from the weekend. www.damswim.com/.../2009_dam_fall_scm_meet_results.pdf

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Former Member — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:11:55 GMT

www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/.../22784.asp Congrats to all the great swims !!! Nice warm-up to the big December meet weekend - now I also know what relay records not to try :) (thanks Colorado) ....

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Former Member — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 07:24:02 GMT

Ok - where are the results from San Antonio and Arizona ? When can we expect trash talking and "that-a-boy"s Rich - what relay records did you guys destroy and please don't make us look through every 800 split to find a lead-off record :)

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Patrick W. Brundage — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:45:32 GMT

I assume Ron Johnson results will be posted here at some point: www.clubassistant.com/.../meet_results.cfm but they're not there yet.

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The Fortress — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:09:34 GMT

Ande Rasmussen! 100 SCM IM in 1:00.14 out in 27.0, mens 45 - 49 World Record WAS 1:00.29! Amazing! And he wasn't even fully tapered. I hope there is video!