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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://community.usms.org/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>FINA Considers Tinkers To Swimsuit Regulations</title><link>https://community.usms.org/swimming/f/general/8460/fina-considers-tinkers-to-swimsuit-regulations</link><description>FINA Considers Tinkers To Swimsuit Regulations 
 
Amy Shipley; Washington Post Staff Writer 
 
Just weeks after adopting new rules designed to end the controversy over high-tech, full-body suits, FINA, world swimming&amp;#39;s governing body, is having second</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 12</generator><item><title>RE: FINA Considers Tinkers To Swimsuit Regulations</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/132942?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:08:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:791f28c6-38bd-428f-97c7-61df79f03e7a</guid><dc:creator>jim thornton</dc:creator><description>If they change the rules so that men can have the same covering as women but keep the no zipper rule I believe all the companies will need a new design.Is there any current mens racing suit that covers the chest and does not have a zipper?

I suggest a one-shoulder-strapped body suit, not unlike the cave man clothing caricature.  This would allow us quasi fatsos to easily don the thing, though it might expose one *** depending on the acuteness of the diagonal angle.

Perhaps Speedo could include a complimentary club with which we might bean women swimmers and drag them back to our lairs?&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FINA Considers Tinkers To Swimsuit Regulations</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/132932?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:01:33 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:3ff1c2a6-4712-490f-8c89-97969ecaa7e8</guid><dc:creator>jim thornton</dc:creator><description>In case anyone misunderstands, the &amp;#39;hell&amp;#39; to me is not whether tech suits or not, it is the endless gormless flailing by fina (they don&amp;#39;t deserve capitals). A Sartre character in his play &amp;#39;No Exit&amp;#39; declaimed &amp;#39;Hell is other people&amp;#39;...naw, it is fina that deserves that slam.

Mr. Cruise, you are a magnificent educator!

1) I always thought it was Woody Allen or Emily Dickinson or perhaps a love child of the two who said &amp;quot;L&amp;#39;enfer, c&amp;#39;est les autres&amp;quot;--but it was not!  As you correctly pointed out, it was the author of Nausea himself.

2) you have introduced a magnificent new word to the USMS lexicon: gormless, which at first I suspected was a typo.  Not so!

gormless (comparative more gormless, superlative most gormless)
     Positive
gormless
  
 Comparative
more gormless
  
 Superlative
most gormless
    
 

(chiefly British, of a person) Lacking intelligence, sense or discernment, often implying lack of capacity of will to remedy the condition.
(British) Inexperienced, naïve, innocent to the point of foolishness.


Thanks for making me feel gormless in my previously pseudo-intellectualism.  Now that I know what gormless means and who said hell was other people, I have taken one giant step towards becoming less gormless, then lessor gormless, then least gormless, then peri-intellectualism--with my ultimate goal, of course, to someday be compared favorably to one absolutely ungormless Mr. Peter Cruise, a true and unmitigated intellectual!&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FINA Considers Tinkers To Swimsuit Regulations</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/133308?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:57:49 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:25f92590-8447-4c58-b6e5-dd3b5b2ecb52</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>They made such a bad job by allowing the rubber suits in the first place they are scrambling to fix their mistakes. I think we will be back to Nylon or Nylon/Lycra our poly suits only.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FINA Considers Tinkers To Swimsuit Regulations</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/133396?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:02:49 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:f12b98a6-1bd5-4e93-8c9f-509f64af24bb</guid><dc:creator>Chris Stevenson</dc:creator><description>How can they say waist to knee for men ,but allow women to neck?
 
Probably because they feel that the purpose of a swimsuit is for modesty reasons, not performance-enhancement (I believe the revised rule says as much but I can&amp;#39;t find it right now). How quaint.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FINA Considers Tinkers To Swimsuit Regulations</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/132924?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 10:31:25 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:b30a2ec0-0071-444d-9cec-067700d0d94f</guid><dc:creator>Stevepowell</dc:creator><description>Back in the day, Fairfield University swimmers had prominent FU logos on the back of their briefs. Don&amp;#39;t know if they still do that. Hope they do.
 
 
Don&amp;#39;t forget the South Carolina Gamecocks!:D:D
 
&lt;a href="http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/9/9/23/f_gococksm_ea5f9fa.jpg"&gt;img32.picoodle.com/.../f_gococksm_ea5f9fa.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FINA Considers Tinkers To Swimsuit Regulations</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/133210?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 10:19:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:01a8ef8b-9f60-4db8-8c18-5a325889292c</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>No Beef but latest from FINA says at the momment men can only wear waist to knee but they may change the rule. I was wondering if they make that change will they take Johnny&amp;#39;s gold away for using a high tech neck to hip suit. It is just - if it happens what will the end result be.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FINA Considers Tinkers To Swimsuit Regulations</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/133127?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 10:01:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:6412140e-bc2e-4370-96b7-abdda99dbee5</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Why the beef? 
 
Weissmuller&amp;#39;s suit is still legal for masters.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FINA Considers Tinkers To Swimsuit Regulations</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/133283?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 07:26:20 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:975bf3ce-0fc9-441f-9b93-be2eb5a86578</guid><dc:creator>orca1946</dc:creator><description>How can they say waist ti knee for men ,but allow women to neck?&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FINA Considers Tinkers To Swimsuit Regulations</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/133044?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 06:39:32 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:f30671f6-9c14-4910-9c09-2e7092c2172e</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Are they going to put * beside his Olympic swims???&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FINA Considers Tinkers To Swimsuit Regulations</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/132969?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 06:20:24 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:f656d76b-debc-4c89-adaf-f8e20693f5f5</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Here&amp;#39;s a zipperless suit on Johnny Weissmuller at the 1924 Olympics.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FINA Considers Tinkers To Swimsuit Regulations</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/133021?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 02:22:44 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:4eb5b707-088f-4cf2-8e58-faa1a624d614</guid><dc:creator>jim thornton</dc:creator><description>Here&amp;#39;s a zipperless suit on Johnny Weissmuller at the 1924 Olympics.


Do we need to wear the codpiece, too?&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FINA Considers Tinkers To Swimsuit Regulations</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/132872?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:29:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:f1f1764a-7cca-468a-924b-c34faa30cfb5</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I saw a bunch of male and female swimmers at the BC provincial championships wearing neck to knee suits no zippers.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FINA Considers Tinkers To Swimsuit Regulations</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/132756?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 12:17:38 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:9bd32fba-b8de-4517-8bb7-90a9074537ab</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>In case anyone misunderstands, the &amp;#39;hell&amp;#39; to me is not whether tech suits or not, it is the endless gormless flailing by fina (they don&amp;#39;t deserve capitals). A Sartre character in his play &amp;#39;No Exit&amp;#39; declaimed &amp;#39;Hell is other people&amp;#39;...naw, it is fina that deserves that slam.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FINA Considers Tinkers To Swimsuit Regulations</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/132641?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 11:54:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:b6bdc809-24d2-4b23-ab27-5db24604e5cd</guid><dc:creator>orca1946</dc:creator><description>Why not jammers &amp;amp; tops for women?&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FINA Considers Tinkers To Swimsuit Regulations</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/132843?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 10:36:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:f71e0eed-f2d3-4f7b-8ecd-419bee47213e</guid><dc:creator>Allen Stark</dc:creator><description>If they change the rules so that men can have the same covering as women but keep the no zipper rule I believe all the companies will need a new design.Is there any current mens racing suit that covers the chest and does not have a zipper?&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FINA Considers Tinkers To Swimsuit Regulations</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/132825?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 08:21:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:76f82d82-2ed0-44ca-8581-7013cbe4acc2</guid><dc:creator>__steve__</dc:creator><description>what?&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FINA Considers Tinkers To Swimsuit Regulations</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/132681?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 08:07:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:62a1d529-2b5e-475c-a965-62ecb9fdd064</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I just hope they allow Yingfa suits so I can stop spending too much $$$ on tech suits.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FINA Considers Tinkers To Swimsuit Regulations</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/132668?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 03:45:50 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:69e8d1de-afe8-4d88-9fb2-158438bf4530</guid><dc:creator>rodent</dc:creator><description>The problem is not with coverage but with fabric that provides flotation. I like chest to knee coverage because I don&amp;#39;t have to shave. I am too old to wear less coverage than provided by chest to knee suits. The Pre LZR suit standards, circa 2002, are fine by me. 
No polyurethane or other flotation should be permitted.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FINA Considers Tinkers To Swimsuit Regulations</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/131918?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:31:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:112090bc-2a46-4df3-9dd3-6c3505af238b</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I realize that, but I do think there are rules limiting the size and number of logos.

At one time, yes, there did limit the size of logos. Don&amp;#39;t know about the number but if you look at some of the logos over the last few years, they do seem to have gotten bigger on the suits.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FINA Considers Tinkers To Swimsuit Regulations</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/131815?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:22:33 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:21408698-23ba-4d08-b4fc-57878892fc72</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>What fresh hell is this...

Oh, I couldn&amp;#39;t agree more... &amp;amp;#25105;&amp;amp;#30340;&amp;amp;#22825;&amp;amp;#21738;!:afraid:&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FINA Considers Tinkers To Swimsuit Regulations</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/131747?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:16:01 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:a28f39ea-c0e1-42d6-906d-612558e3adf2</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>The solution for “Putting all the worms back in the can” is for FINA to TIVO back to the 1970s and the rules for suits in effect then will still be in effect today -and for the foreseeable future. 

For those who are into the suit technology fad and spent big $$$ on LZRs, etc., that would be the moral equivalent of an asteroid colliding with the earth, but it’s the only solution to a problem that shouldn’t have happened in the first place.

Dolphin 2&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FINA Considers Tinkers To Swimsuit Regulations</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/131701?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:07:16 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:9c9ea63d-eb84-42ac-ae5d-4a7d55597c01</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>If the issue is seeing the logo I&amp;#39;d say the rules should be changed to allow a second logo rather than changing the suit coverage.

My comment was made in jest at the idea of putting logos on the butt and having the men turn around to the cameras to show their backside.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FINA Considers Tinkers To Swimsuit Regulations</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/131621?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 15:59:40 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:d3f4b636-4911-4f10-80f0-f1ff25ffad32</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>They could be if they put the logos across the butt! In all serious, if this is a concern, why not put the logos across the seat?

I can see it now at major meets, when doing the introductions. The men will have to turn their backs to the camera and bend over to show the logo.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FINA Considers Tinkers To Swimsuit Regulations</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/131548?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 15:52:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:105af706-2dda-4d0f-a6d9-c68dd333af79</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>i was a USCF cyclist back in the 80s and we routinely had sponsor logos written on the back of shorts just below the waistband...&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FINA Considers Tinkers To Swimsuit Regulations</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/131470?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 15:46:07 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:07d8cd16-b427-4e35-bcb2-33d36f04efe0</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>What fresh hell is this...&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>