Comment on my 50Free please

RE: Comment on my 50Free please

Former Member — Fri, 29 May 2009 16:57:39 GMT

I've been working on increasing my turnover for a couple of months. Just need to keep incorporating plenty of 100% work into practise and nailing those fast arms. And the starts - I just need to get the blocks out once a week and spend some time experimenting with different take offs. Thanks for all your comments:D

RE: Comment on my 50Free please

Former Member — Fri, 29 May 2009 05:16:59 GMT

I think the swim was excellent. I do not think you were slow off the blocks. I clicked play/pause several times to watch the start and your hands entered the water before the swimmer on your left. Between 14 and 15 secs into the video you can see that you are a bit flat in the air and your entry in the water could probably be a bit cleaner (look at the splash from the feet). Your hands could probably come together a bit sooner with one hand over the other. I agree that leaning back might be less than optimum. But that was a fine swim and you should be happy with it.

RE: Comment on my 50Free please

Former Member — Thu, 28 May 2009 11:48:38 GMT

Great swim, very powerful stroke. Besides working on the turn, you should do more sprints at the training, because your stroke was kinda fading at the last 10-15m.

RE: Comment on my 50Free please

Former Member — Wed, 27 May 2009 16:43:31 GMT

It appears to me that you are doing a track start, You are right, I was confusing his hand with his foot. ha! Still slow off the block, though...

RE: Comment on my 50Free please

Former Member — Wed, 27 May 2009 16:39:15 GMT

One more note regarding your sdk. Make sure you are good at sdk before you get too hung up on how many you are taking. I can't tell from the video but it may be that you are actually faster getting up and going rather than staying down and sdk'ing. To effectively use a sdk in a 50 you better be really fast at it. Otherwise a couple until you start to lose your speed then up and swimming. Lots of the worlds best sprinters don't hang out underwater dolphin kicking. Some don't dolphin kick at all and just flutter kick.

RE: Comment on my 50Free please

Former Member — Wed, 27 May 2009 16:28:20 GMT

Nice job. Try to overlap your hands for a streamlined entry off start.

RE: Comment on my 50Free please

Former Member — Wed, 27 May 2009 16:28:03 GMT

It appears to me that you are doing a track start, its difficult to see though. If you are doing a track start (which you should be doing) then try leaning forward a little so you have equal weight on both the front and back foot. It takes some getting used to because it feels like you aren't getting any jump from the back foot. So, some people prefer the sling shot approach. Most swimmers, though, get equal weight on the front and back foot and don't lean back. I don't think you are breathing too much, though you could get rid of that final breath. What I do notice is a slight pause in your stroke when you breathe. I do this to and so does Jason Lezak I think. Try to make your breathe a little more "sneaky" keep one goggle in the water and reach/roll forward with the top of your head to get the breath. You may be picking up your head to breathe too much. In practice try looking at the side of the pool under the lane lines when you breathe. Roll forward for your breathe. Your turn over is a bit slow for a 50. Try to increase your turnover by increasing the speed of your recovery, i.e., how quickly you get your hand from exit to entry. I don't know what was going on with your arms on the dive. The best method maybe to hit a tight line right from the jump rather than doing the Phelps thing with the arms. Starts have become very simple...track start immediately to a tight streamline into the water...very rigid body position. That's a fast time though. It actually looks pretty good to me. The 50 is hard to improve. Good luck.

RE: Comment on my 50Free please

Former Member — Wed, 27 May 2009 16:01:55 GMT

you have a great stroke, but not a sprinter's stroke. You sure as heck have a sprinters kick though. About the swim: you take a longtime to get off the block. It is because you pull back and because you are not doing a track start. I have that problem too, but I do not have the time to learn a track start. Oh well. If you have the time, though, learning a track start ( particularily considering how slow you are off the block) will probably take more than a .25 off your time. Also you breath too much. But you probably know that. If you trained for it, you could go under 2:00 in the 200 M. I am sure of it

RE: Comment on my 50Free please

Former Member — Wed, 27 May 2009 15:21:20 GMT

Overall it looked pretty good. Your stroke looked to fall apart a lot in the last 10-15m because you seem to be loping a lot more which is not what you are looking for. I would suggest getting fatigued during a practice and trying to hold good form because then that way you would be able to hold it during your 50 to make it even faster.

RE: Comment on my 50Free please

Former Member — Wed, 27 May 2009 13:51:11 GMT

Could be the angle, but it looked like your entry was a bit flat. I also think it looks like you pick your head up too much to breathe. But as was said, great kick, nice turn and try to get the turn-over going.

RE: Comment on my 50Free please

orca1946 — Wed, 27 May 2009 12:05:29 GMT

If you don't want a track start, try pulling DOWN a first to get yourself moving.

RE: Comment on my 50Free please

rtodd — Wed, 27 May 2009 08:19:58 GMT

You lean back at the start and it looks like you are putting your arms in tension. I think this is hurting you in getting off quickly. I think you can work on your start. Your swim looked awesome. Nailed the trun.

RE: Comment on my 50Free please

Former Member — Wed, 27 May 2009 05:59:22 GMT

I am doing a track start. I'm suprised you say I'm slow off the block, I actually think my start is the best part of my race. On the occasion that I've swam in a pool where they show reaction times I've been between 0.78 - 0.85 secs - which I don't think is too bad. My stroke definately stalls when I breathe, and I definately tie up towards the end - You should see the last 15m of the 100! Thanks for the comments guys. Keep them coming.:) I don't think you're slow getting off probably not as fast as you can be though. In a 50 that is already pretty fast you're going to have to grab every tenth from anywhere you can get it. I don't know how reaction time is measured. Is it the time it takes to actually react (first slight movement) to the start or the time from the start until the weight is removed from the block? I honestly don't know. If it is the former then a quick reaction time doesn't necessarily mean you are getting off the blocks quickly. If it is the latter then .8 is pretty good. The best are around .6-.7 I think.

RE: Comment on my 50Free please

Former Member — Wed, 27 May 2009 05:37:32 GMT

RE: Comment on my 50Free please

Speedo — Wed, 27 May 2009 02:40:14 GMT

P.S. reaction times are measured as the time between when the start is signalled (i.e., the beep or flash) and when your feet leave the blocks. Why did I (sprinter) have to learn this from a national champion distance guy?:lmao: The swim looked great! The obvious things that could be improved are the turnover and leaning back on the blocks, although I think some elite lean back and do pretty well. Once you got moving forward on the start, the Sullivan-esque butterfly stroke in the air looks like it provided good momentum. If you're doing that on purpose, I'd exagerate it a little more to get more swing in your arms. If it's by accident or you don't notice yourself doing it, I'd be conscious not to do it as you're probably not getting any momentum out of it. Your kick is very strong- great swim!

RE: Comment on my 50Free please

knelson — Wed, 27 May 2009 02:19:38 GMT

You look extremely powerful. For a 50 I'd work on increasing your turnover rate. Yes, you could improve your start by making sure the first movement of your hands is forward. You seem to pull back slightly wth your hands before going forward with them. Great swim, though! P.S. reaction times are measured as the time between when the start is signalled (i.e., the beep or flash) and when your feet leave the blocks.