Fina cracks down on hi-tech suits

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Former Member — Sat, 28 Mar 2009 05:08:55 GMT

Hey, Take a look at this weird swimming videos. If the fastskin is allowed, why not these technique? :) World Record Secret - Part 1 - Video World Record Secret - Part 2 - Video

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orca1946 — Sat, 28 Mar 2009 03:32:56 GMT

I think that it would go away as soon as it was wet.

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Allen Stark — Sat, 28 Mar 2009 02:32:13 GMT

I have a question. I just got my Blue70 and tried it out today in the pool for 10 min. to see what it feels like. I've always had kind of a "sway back", so as soon as I got in today I could feel air inside the suit in my lower back. It was like a pretty big air bubble stuck inside. It was there the whole 10 minutes. (Trapped I guess from the design of the suit!) Will this help me or hinder me? :confused:I want to wear this suit at Y Nat's. I had the same situation.It bothered my balance in the BR pullout,but it doesn't bother my fly.I have been told the way to avoid it is put the suit on wet.

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swim53 — Sat, 28 Mar 2009 02:10:12 GMT

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Former Member — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:09:23 GMT

Here comes TYR Titan http://www.tyr.com/titan/ Anyone else think this suit looks like a B70 with "core stabilization panels"? Isn't there a danger it will fail the new permeability tests?

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Former Member — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:40:41 GMT

Interesting. How are features like this not considered performance enhancing? "CORE CONTROL PANEL" The internal panel stabilizes the swimmer for a more powerful and consistent stroke while helping to maintain optimal body positioning throughout the race. i'd buy me a wife beater with a core control panel in a heartbeat

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Former Member — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:02:29 GMT

What a happy coincidence for Speedo that the LZR is the only full body technical suit on the market that will be approved under the new guidelines. With the stroke of a pen, their competition is eliminated. Wonder how much they had to pay for that? Gull...that's not a nice thing to say about the best darn swimsuit company in the world. You are starting to sound like Geek, come on now, we all know FINA wouldn't make rules that help speedo get rid of suits that are better than theirs...that people like better than theirs...that is just plan wrong for you to make those statements....;););)

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Former Member — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 07:53:31 GMT

No suits no attractive sportlight in swimming...that is simple nowdays. Hope Blue70 straights out with FINA.

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gobears — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 07:52:52 GMT

In the below posts, D2 makes a dead-on observation, and some are shooting him into the ground just because it is he who posted. He made really valid point: Humans were not made to swim. If you buy his observations as science, then I guess so. However, if you read up on the subject it isn't that simple. There are actually scientists out there that do question whether or not humans have some kind of evolutionary aquatic adaptations. My problem with D2 is that his assertions are made with certainty when he's not an authority on the subject. Saying "it looks to me like humans aren't made for water" and saying "humans aren't made for water, period" are two very different things in my book.

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Former Member — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 07:49:09 GMT

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Karen Duggan — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 02:13:19 GMT

I must disagree. As I told "D2", I am very aware that I am not a fish or live in the ocean, but that doesn't mean I can't swim! If I weren't biologically able to swim then I wouldn't be!!! (I was going to insert a Presidential dis here, but refrained). A plant can't swim. IT is not biologically designed to swim.

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Former Member — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:12:00 GMT

.(I don't want any of the guys to volunteer to check to make sure the women aren't wearing a jogbra.) Allen, since you don't want any of the guys to volunteer, I will instead offer to help the lovely women get their 1 competition suit zipped up.

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Former Member — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:26:07 GMT

www.kastawayblog.com/.../asa-university-league-bans-technical.html

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Jim Clemmons — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:21:21 GMT

The FINA "rules makers" must be male, or so it appears. I'm with Allen :chug:. Under a tech suit, briefs are fine for males (although I go "commando") and a typical workout suit should suffice :cheerleader: for the ladies.

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knelson — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:10:59 GMT

This whole thing about multiple suits and modesty is somewhat ironic. The function of a swimsuit used to be modesty. You wore the smallest, tightest suit you could get away with and still cover the areas we've deemed as a society should be covered in public. Now, all of a sudden, with these new suits were covering up more of the body in order to swim faster, but we say we need to wear something else for modesty. It's strange I'll tell ya.

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Muppet — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:41:13 GMT

In the below posts, D2 makes a dead-on observation, and some are shooting him into the ground just because it is he who posted. He made really valid point: Humans were not made to swim. Humans are land creatures -not aquatic or amphibious animals- and humans are basically not biologically designed to swim. Your statement about your 28 years of swimming experience reflects how you've merely adapted your land-based biological characteristics to the aquatic environment rather than being created by nature for it. You were in fact not biologically designed to swim otherwise you (and other humans) would be able to breath underwater through gills or have sufficient lung capacity and metabolism to remain submerged for an extended period of time with relatively infrequent surfacing to breath from the atmosphere. Furthermore, I presume you do not have a streamlined body or fins and a tail like a fish, or web feet like a duck or an alligator otherwise you would be appearing on the Discovery Channel as the world's only "Amphibiometric Human".

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Tim L — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:56:03 GMT

I think it appears kind of sexist as well on the surface. However, do you think that what Fina is concerned about is the extra chest compression that a second suit would provide to females? I know they were concerned about duct tape use, but maybe they were concerned the modesty suit for females would be used more for compression or cover-up of other abuses like duct tape than for modesty. I guess they had to draw the line somewhere, but it does appear sexist and more focused on the extreme. For masters anything other than another tech suit should be allowed. Tim

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Former Member — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:49:00 GMT

Here comes TYR Titan http://www.tyr.com/titan/ Interesting. How are features like this not considered performance enhancing? "CORE CONTROL PANEL" The internal panel stabilizes the swimmer for a more powerful and consistent stroke while helping to maintain optimal body positioning throughout the race.

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Former Member — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 07:53:37 GMT

Here comes TYR Titan http://www.tyr.com/titan/

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Former Member — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 07:28:53 GMT

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Jim Clemmons — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 05:47:18 GMT

The briefs only idea is clearly unfair to female swimmers and is also unenforceable at the Masters level.(I don't want any of the guys to volunteer to check to make sure the women aren't wearing a jogbra.)Since it is unenforceable I suggest the judges don't even try.We should say the spirit of the rules is to not wear 2 tech suits and that to do so is cheating,but just as we don't test for PEDs in Masters we shouldn't have,or need swimsuit police. Just got the answer. 6. Question: Does “one suit for competition” mean I can only wear one suit for the whole meet? Answer: No. You can change suits during the meet, but you can only wear one suit at a time. This restriction applies only to the actual races (competition). You can wear more than one suit during warm-up and warm-down. This restriction applies to all types, makes, and models of swim suits, but it is not intended to apply to athletic supporters or modesty type wear (a single pair of “briefs” or “bikini bottoms or top” or a sports bra worn to ensure modesty and privacy). This means Paul Smith can now wear his Saturday night wares under his tech suit.

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Allen Stark — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 02:19:11 GMT

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Former Member — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:33:05 GMT

The report specifically states that only 'briefs' can be worn under a technical suit. Jammers would be disqualified then?

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Former Member — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:42:41 GMT

hummmmm....is the T-shirt going to get wet?

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ourswimmer — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:43:47 GMT

Alshammar remarks, "I would almost claim that's a bit sexist saying that the men can cover their private parts up with briefs and women can only also wear briefs." She sure does have a point (whether or not that point applies to what she actually wore to get DQ'd). I can see why a tank suit under the tech suit would be an issue, since it provides some abdominal support. But if a "brief" or "bikini bottom" is OK for modesty, why not a "bikini" top? Certainly a Janet Jackson style wardrobe malfunction would be immodest by most people's standards.