Double Arm Backstroke Drill?

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Stevepowell — Mon, 02 Apr 2012 11:15:22 GMT

Since I can see my knees doing Double arm back it helps practicing *** kick.

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orca1946 — Tue, 27 Mar 2012 06:46:45 GMT

OK I tried this last night & I found myself doing fly kick without thinking about it. Still seems kinda weird!!

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Redbird Alum — Tue, 27 Mar 2012 01:48:36 GMT

Matt I think this qualifies as a legal backstsroke, so no new stroke is needed. What do you think? Agreed - it is covered under the existing backstroke rules. That is why I told Rogerio it is unlikely to be considered as a "new" stroke.

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orca1946 — Mon, 26 Mar 2012 11:42:14 GMT

We, as a team, have never done this drill. I guess I will try it to see how it feels & if indeed makes me think about the hand finish.

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Redbird Alum — Mon, 26 Mar 2012 11:05:02 GMT

Rogerio - Interesting, but I doubt FINA will take this up as a "new" stroke. Thanks for the video.

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Allen Stark — Mon, 26 Mar 2012 07:02:22 GMT

Matt I think this qualifies as a legal backstsroke, so no new stroke is needed. What do you think? Yes it is legal in BK and I have seen it used in meets.

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fatboy — Mon, 26 Mar 2012 04:46:54 GMT

Rogerio - Interesting, but I doubt FINA will take this up as a "new" stroke. Thanks for the video. Matt I think this qualifies as a legal backstsroke, so no new stroke is needed. What do you think?

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Former Member — Tue, 06 Dec 2011 10:27:22 GMT

@RogeRio This style is interesting....QUOTE] I did 300 yards of it today in between my primary sets. I think I might like it over regular backstroke if I have problems in open water. I need to try it a few more times to get used to it.

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Former Member — Wed, 30 Nov 2011 16:32:24 GMT

I agree with Leslie here...I used to use this when someone had overreaching problems and to help with the feel of the push past the hips. If it causes pain...don't do it.

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ande — Wed, 30 Nov 2011 11:54:59 GMT

some drills exist for the sake of doing the drill I think drills should help swimmers swim faster. If they don't, why do em? use training time productively

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swimshark — Tue, 29 Nov 2011 06:44:11 GMT

I also find it hurts my shoulders if I do it too fast. The drill means you can't rotate the body as normal, which can cause shoulder strain. We do it occasionally as a drill but I'll switch to "pinky, thumb pinky" instead. Most of the time we use it as a recovery swim, which means I switch to regular back.

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Former Member — Mon, 28 Nov 2011 15:09:04 GMT

@RogeRio This style is interesting. Have you considered using a breaststroke kick with it? I am going to try it both ways next time I am in the pool. Thanks!

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Former Member — Mon, 28 Nov 2011 14:16:44 GMT

I don't overreach but I do tend to finnish deep sometimes. When I do double arm back drill I think about finishing well and clean with both arms/hands while maintaining ballance. Plus its an easy fun drill! There are often more than just one point a swimmer can focus on during a particular drill. OP: If you're doing it properly and it still hurts your shoulders, STOP!

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Former Member — Sat, 26 Nov 2011 13:55:00 GMT

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Former Member — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:07:14 GMT

I don't know if it's any good for improving regular backstroke, but a physiotherapist once suggested I do it to relieve "computer back". The idea was to stretch the chest muscles and tighten up the muscles between the shoulder blades.

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Betsy — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:59:07 GMT

My coach has us do double arm back to concentrate on the finish of the stroke. I find it helpful, but I don't do it if I have sore shoulders for any reason.

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gobears — Sun, 01 Mar 2009 09:28:39 GMT

I don't much like backstroke but I think double arm backstroke is a decent drill for concentrating on the acceleration past your hips at the end of the stroke. When I was coaching age-groupers, I looked at drills as a tool to concentrate on certain aspects of stroke improvement and also as something different that helps develop general coordination in the water. And it can be fun. Actually, anything that makes a swimmer slow down and THINK about what they are doing is a little bit helpful, IMO. If double arm backstroke hurts your shoulder or irritates you, don't do it.

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smontanaro — Sun, 01 Mar 2009 05:00:39 GMT

Swimming fly on the back is another fun drill. Not sure how useful that is, but it's a hell of a lot easier than regular fly. I use it to observe my stroke and work on timing, without the distraction of asphyxia. Sorry to veer off-subject, but that's what I feel like when swimming fly. I don't really seem to get any air. After a few strokes I'm out of oxygen... :(

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james lucas — Sun, 01 Mar 2009 02:19:18 GMT

The drill helps some people correct some of their backstroke flaws: - Some swimmers benefit as it helps them 'feel' and improve the early catch; - It helps some swimmers better 'feel' the correct hand entry, helping them correct their tendency to enter the hand across the center line; - It helps some people 'feel' the right neck, back and hip positiion and correct problems of 'posture.' - It helps some people 'feel' how to maintain a steady kick on their back.

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Former Member — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 15:58:43 GMT

I love the double arm backstroke drill! It's easy and fun. I agree that it's good for symmetry. Another purpose is to work on feeling the catch and the underwater acceleration. At least, that's what I focus on while doing it. Swimming fly on the back is another fun drill. Not sure how useful that is, but it's a hell of a lot easier than regular fly. I use it to observe my stroke and work on timing, without the distraction of asphyxia.

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srcoyote — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 08:54:20 GMT

The way I look at it, backstroke IS a drill. It's like freestyle, only you swim it on your back. That's really funny. I remember the only backstroke drill I ever did in age group was the one where I pulled on the lane lines to avoid doing back stroke any more than I had to.

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pwolf66 — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 08:01:52 GMT

If it's hurting your shoulders then odds are you are overreaching. Double arm backstroke drill helps to prevent overreaching by making it very difficult to overreach.

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Former Member — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 16:18:41 GMT

Whenever I drill, it's very rarely backstroke. The way I look at it, backstroke IS a drill. It's like freestyle, only you swim it on your back.