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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://community.usms.org/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>What will cause the next holy wars?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/swimming/f/general/7525/what-will-cause-the-next-holy-wars</link><description>It’s crystal ball time. Once the anticipated rule changes occur and the tech suit flame wars die down a bit, what will cause the next round?</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 12</generator><item><title>RE: What will cause the next holy wars?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/114252?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 15:48:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:3c73e783-d341-4522-9e77-b2a08256859c</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I think it might be migrating to the back-to-*** turn used in high school meets where you don&amp;#39;t have to touch the wall (on your back with your hand) before turning over, so you roll into the turn like the current backturn/flipturn, just coming off on your stomach.

Wow, that took a lot of explaining and I&amp;#39;m not even sure it makes sense.     :confused:

I&amp;#39;m leaving now - go Gators.

Current National Federation of High School Rules require the finish of the backstroke leg of the IM to be on your back.  Or vertical, not towards the ***.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What will cause the next holy wars?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/114159?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 11:34:04 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:7c4fd31e-866e-4182-9e79-0d808ace02b0</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>If things get dull, we can always fall back on such topics as drugs, Dara Torres, or Total Immersion. 
If things get really dull, we can always invite He Who Can&amp;#39;t Be Named back.

-LBJ&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What will cause the next holy wars?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/114465?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 08:38:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:ae8e91d2-c8f2-4926-bf23-42a8a3e605f2</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>The only thing that can put it out is if FINA decides to dump the who idea of tech suits and the whole fad will implode into a Black Hole.  :bolt:

Dolphin 2


Why don&amp;#39;t you go first, so FINA can see how it is done. :applaud:&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What will cause the next holy wars?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/114375?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 08:31:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:9c69553f-8adc-4abf-ad72-243348497de2</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>My guess is that the tech suit war will continue on for another millienium. 

It&amp;#39;s like the thermo-nuclear fusion going on at the center of the Sun: Once it got ignited, it burned on for billions of years.  :bitching:

The only thing that can put it out is if FINA decides to dump the idea of tech suits in it&amp;#39;s entirety and the whole fad will implode into a Black Hole.  :bolt:

Dolphin 2&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What will cause the next holy wars?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/114566?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 04:55:43 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:9403cde1-1cd5-476c-a951-b1c23586f3b6</guid><dc:creator>Rich Abrahams</dc:creator><description>Wookie,
That&amp;#39;s the funniest post I&amp;#39;ve read in a long time.
Rich&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What will cause the next holy wars?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/114359?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 03:18:14 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:6193d2bc-6122-4f41-8bc8-0d86de642bc9</guid><dc:creator>Chris Stevenson</dc:creator><description>I picked the &amp;quot;dive into backstroke&amp;quot; option for a few reasons:

I swim backstroke, and a front dive is the most clear violation of the &amp;quot;back&amp;quot; in backstroke I can think of since the turn change
It seems the one option that would most quickly trim indecent amounts of time off a race/record IMHO (of those presented)
Backstrokers can make faces at those who watch them swim and thus could add insult to the whole process while competing. :D


I don&amp;#39;t know about &amp;quot;indecent&amp;quot; amounts of time, probably 0.5-1.0 sec per race.

The &amp;quot;making faces&amp;quot; aspect -- and the ability to look up at the sky when swimming outdoors -- is the best aspect of the stroke. My 9-yo son, who doesn&amp;#39;t take his swim races overly seriously, cracks me up when he spits water up in a fountain after his backstroke turns. :drown: I&amp;#39;m not a pushy swim parent but even I can&amp;#39;t help suggesting to him that it is okay if he is a little out of breath after a &amp;quot;race.&amp;quot;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What will cause the next holy wars?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/114347?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 01:38:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:fdcdb86b-ac08-4fda-9b91-99ca0219d46e</guid><dc:creator>Redbird Alum</dc:creator><description>I picked the &amp;quot;dive into backstroke&amp;quot; option for a few reasons:

I swim backstroke, and a front dive is the most clear violation of the &amp;quot;back&amp;quot; in backstroke I can think of since the turn change
It seems the one option that would most quickly trim indecent amounts of time off a race/record IMHO (of those presented)
Backstrokers can make faces at those who watch them swim and thus could add insult to the whole process while competing. :D&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What will cause the next holy wars?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/114145?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 07:25:08 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:8c39621c-6b13-42cf-8df8-5c549c902cae</guid><dc:creator>Jim Clemmons</dc:creator><description>And you didn&amp;#39;t vote for it? &amp;quot;One hand touch no longer required to finish backstroke leg of IM&amp;quot;
 
I didn&amp;#39;t even know that change was already happening when I decided to include it as a poll choice!

Guess I went thru &amp;#39;em so quickly...:doh:

Think I was getting ahead of myself on this game tonight.:blush:&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What will cause the next holy wars?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/114129?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 07:05:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:157f226a-355a-4028-813b-cb45399e734a</guid><dc:creator>That Guy</dc:creator><description>I think it might be migrating to the back-to-*** turn used in high school meets where you don&amp;#39;t have to touch the wall (on your back with your hand) before turning over, so you roll into the turn like the current backturn/flipturn, just coming off on your stomach.
 
Wow, that took a lot of explaining and I&amp;#39;m not even sure it makes sense. :confused:
 
I&amp;#39;m leaving now - go Gators.
 
And you didn&amp;#39;t vote for it? &amp;quot;One hand touch no longer required to finish backstroke leg of IM&amp;quot;
 
I didn&amp;#39;t even know that change was already happening when I decided to include it as a poll choice!&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What will cause the next holy wars?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/114113?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 06:50:24 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:0eb06740-6b47-469d-8f93-dadda3fcceba</guid><dc:creator>Jim Clemmons</dc:creator><description>I think it might be migrating to the back-to-*** turn used in high school meets where you don&amp;#39;t have to touch the wall (on your back with your hand) before turning over, so you roll into the turn like the current backturn/flipturn, just coming off on your stomach.

Wow, that took a lot of explaining and I&amp;#39;m not even sure it makes sense.     :confused:

I&amp;#39;m leaving now - go Gators.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What will cause the next holy wars?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/114101?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 06:15:18 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:80c92f28-7c4f-4561-9dd6-226108bf83be</guid><dc:creator>SLOmmafan</dc:creator><description>I don&amp;#39;t really understand the whole &amp;quot;two hand touch&amp;quot; thing anyhow in the ***/butter races.  Do away with it!&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>