USA swimming ??

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Former Member — Wed, 04 Mar 2009 10:29:07 GMT

Tom, Did you get an answer to this? I want to try to get my times from our Arizona State Masters' meet (end of March) and Nationals added to the SWIMS database. I'd love it if you found out what the exact process is. Procedures may be different in each LSC. The LSC will need time to make sure that the officiating is up to USAS standards at your meet.

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tjrpatt — Wed, 04 Mar 2009 08:34:36 GMT

Tom, Did you get an answer to this? I want to try to get my times from our Arizona State Masters' meet (end of March) and Nationals added to the SWIMS database. I'd love it if you found out what the exact process is. Patrick, I gave the meet director the proper forms to get my times get the USA-S SWIMS database. I still have no idea if the procedure work. Use this form attached below. Contact the meet director ASAP about getting your times recognized. I hope that this helps if though I don't know if the process worked out.

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orca1946 — Wed, 04 Mar 2009 05:15:56 GMT

An official time from a meet will get you into a qualified meet.

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Patrick W. Brundage — Wed, 04 Mar 2009 02:21:32 GMT

Does anyone who submitted the Observation Form for Times to be submitted into the SWIMS Database? Does it have to be submitted ten days before the meet that they want the times submitted? Just a little confused here! I wanted to submit my times from next weekend's meet because I have to do it ten days before the meet or something now??? Tom, Did you get an answer to this? I want to try to get my times from our Arizona State Masters' meet (end of March) and Nationals added to the SWIMS database. I'd love it if you found out what the exact process is.

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tjrpatt — Sat, 14 Feb 2009 09:32:14 GMT

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Former Member — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 13:12:02 GMT

Except that most USA-S sessions are 2-3 hours at most. For example, the 9-10 sessions this past weekend were 2 hours. Not in our neck of the woods, and a family with 2 swimmers may be there more than one session even if the sessions are short. Our 8&Unders get a short session, but the others usually are there going on 4 hours or more for the older kids. Especially "A" meets run as prelims/finals.

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Former Member — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:37:59 GMT

I swim USAS unattached (as well as USMS.) As Paul said, it is usually MUCH cheaper to enter a USAS meet since there is usually no meet surcharge (or at most a very low one.) Just $3.50 to $4.00 per event charge. As for the hassle...My experience is that you may have to reach out to the meet director via email or phone to see how they prefer to receive your entries (over the phone, via US mail, email, Hy-Tek file, etc.) But, it's really no more difficult than USMS IMHO... The only negative I can think of is that they don't usually have 50 stroke events we older folks are used to.:cane: More and more USS meets have 50s now! This is true for SCY and LCM meets. The USS Auburn meet that I'm doing has 50s as did the last couple of USS meets I considered or attended. Meet fees vary. The total charge for me for the Auburn USMS meet was $50 and the USS Auburn meet cost me $52.

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orca1946 — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 11:45:49 GMT

Good info for hose that needed it. Thanx to all.

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Former Member — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 11:11:01 GMT

Except that most USA-S sessions are 2-3 hours at most. For example, the 9-10 sessions this past weekend were 2 hours. Totally agree. Every USA-S meet I've been to in the past year ran FAST. Almost to the detriment of my not getting enough rest at times. . . They are so not like the meets I attended in the '80s. And I'm in the senior/ open sessions and I always do the distance events.

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tjrpatt — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 11:05:18 GMT

If I want to do distance events at USA-S meets, I will have to entice others to come along so I can a counter and a timer there. I read some of the entry forms for the Mid Atlantic Region and they even require timers for the 400 events. Hopefully, I can get a training mate to go with me to some of these local meets in the spring and summer this year. But, I need to swim these meets for the challenge and to see what I can do against 15 year olds!!!

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swimshark — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 07:29:12 GMT

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Former Member — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 07:20:59 GMT

I've seen that at the age group meets, too. It's so sad. How can those parents just sit up there when the meet is calling for helpers?! I'm guessing it's because they are spending yet another weekend of 4-8 hours a day at the pool, and they don't want to get "stuck" there after their kid does his last event that session.

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pwolf66 — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 05:01:21 GMT

I'm guessing it's because they are spending yet another weekend of 4-8 hours a day at the pool, and they don't want to get "stuck" there after their kid does his last event that session. Except that most USA-S sessions are 2-3 hours at most. For example, the 9-10 sessions this past weekend were 2 hours.

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poolraat — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 02:33:32 GMT

Not a good excuse. I'm an official and I'm always getting "stuck" there after my kids finish. I'm guessing it's because they are spending yet another weekend of 4-8 hours a day at the pool, and they don't want to get "stuck" there after their kid does his last event that session.

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tjrpatt — Sun, 18 Jan 2009 11:35:37 GMT

Tom, I think that they have given up on trying to get volunteer timers for the distance sections. Just this weekend we came || this close to stopping the meet 3-4 times because we could not get enough timers (at only 2 per lane instead of the recommended three), even tho the spectator section was FILLED with parents. And it was worse during today's 500s. That is good to know, but there never seems to be a problem with getting volunteer timers at Masters meet. Then again, the timers always seem to be the high school or age groupers at whatever pool I do the meet at. Wow, parents just sitting there. My My My, times have changed in age group meets. Of course, there are exceptions such as you, Leslie, and Stevenson just to name a few.

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pwolf66 — Sun, 18 Jan 2009 09:32:38 GMT

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tjrpatt — Sun, 18 Jan 2009 09:03:19 GMT

What is the deal with USA-S meet that require your own timers for the longer events. Gosh, don't everyone who goes to these meets are on active teams. Well, when I have to do some of these meets this summer, hopefully I can get some of my bros to go that I train with. Crazy! I guess that they have their reasons for all these rules.

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Chris Stevenson — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 04:01:53 GMT

When I do USA Swimming meets, do I give the this form to the meet director at the USAS meet or what? How do you know if a pool's measurement is already on file. Just wondering what to do before I do any USAS meets. plus a copy of a valid pool measurement form if not already on file The Top Ten person from your LMSC should be able to check if it is on file. Do this before the meet. Also, if the meet has movable bulkheads, the measurements need to be verified (for each session) even if the "permanent" measurements are on file. The information is at this link: www.usms.org/.../lmsc_hb_rectab.pdf The relevant part about swimming in a course with a movable bulkhead is on page 4, at the bottom: "Pools with a moveable bulkhead should be measured as a permanent course and kept on file. Then, at the conclusion of each session, a responsible person must confirm the length by re-measuring the two outside lanes and a center lane. It is recommended that the length also be confirmed before each session of competition." Note that USA-S is sometimes more lax about pool measurement than USMS; don't just assume that the pool has been measured/verified just b/c it is a USA-S meet. Once you've swum the meet, alert your Top Ten person about your swims and give them a link to the meet results (preferably a Meet Manager file if available).

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tjrpatt — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 03:47:25 GMT

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pwolf66 — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:25:59 GMT

that's cause the freedom center is in prince william county, which is not a part of PVS... the teams that swim out of that pool are part of the VA LSC... Hmm, there was a PVS meet listed at the Freedom Center for next month but it showed as cancelled. Thanks for the info, I didn't even think about that.

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swimmieAvsFan — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:24:45 GMT

I'm swimming at MLK and Fortress is at PGS. I don't see a meet at the Freedom Center on the PVS schedule. that's cause the freedom center is in prince william county, which is not a part of PVS... the teams that swim out of that pool are part of the VA LSC...

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pwolf66 — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 10:32:28 GMT

Stop broadcasting my whereabouts! I'm trying to swim in secret so no one can poke fun at my times. :D Good luck with THAT. Well, hopefully _someone_ won't find your times and post them here. :angel:

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The Fortress — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 10:11:11 GMT

I'm swimming at MLK and Fortress is at PGS. I don't see a meet at the Freedom Center on the PVS schedule. Stop broadcasting my whereabouts! I'm trying to swim in secret so no one can poke fun at my times. :D

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pwolf66 — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 09:41:30 GMT

Where are you both swimming? There is a meet the following weekend at our pool. Want to come so I can watch? I'm swimming at MLK and Fortress is at PGS. I don't see a meet at the Freedom Center on the PVS schedule.

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swimshark — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 07:58:25 GMT

She and I are swimming it, Alison. But at different pools :badday: Where are you both swimming? There is a meet the following weekend at our pool. Want to come so I can watch?