Interesting thing about Phelps' stroke

RE: Interesting thing about Phelps' stroke

Former Member — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 14:09:37 GMT

How to lope: www.goswim.tv/.../freestyle---loper-drill.html Great video and "tutorial"! Thanks!

RE: Interesting thing about Phelps' stroke

Former Member — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 12:16:03 GMT

How to lope: www.goswim.tv/.../freestyle---loper-drill.html

RE: Interesting thing about Phelps' stroke

Allen Stark — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:17:10 GMT

It seems like one intention of the "lope" is to get fully submerged, even momentarily, where there are less drag losses. Just a hunch. You can't legally get fully submerged.That is unlikely to happen unless you really exaggerate front quadrant swimming,as one arm should be out of the water at all times,but after the first 15 M,some part of your body must break the surface in free at all times.

RE: Interesting thing about Phelps' stroke

rtodd — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:40:12 GMT

I take that back. He is completely under. Perhaps the feet are not. Here is the link, the evidence is near the end. www.youtube.com/watch

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rtodd — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:36:13 GMT

The other arm is out of the water. The Torso from head to feet is submerged.

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pwolf66 — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 02:51:09 GMT

You can't legally get fully submerged.That is unlikely to happen unless you really exaggerate front quadrant swimming,as one arm should be out of the water at all times,but after the first 15 M,some part of your body must break the surface in free at all times. Actually, that's partially correct. ONCE you surface off the start or turn, some part of your body must be at or above the surface of the water at all times. So by rule, if you surface at the 5m mark and then completely submerge again, you should be DQed.

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Former Member — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:12:18 GMT

I have to say that I modify my stroke based on the pace and distance, and definitely have an increased asymmetrical stroke during sprints.

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Former Member — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 11:57:55 GMT

Yeah he lopes quite a bit, and a lot of others do too. Popov had that kind of stroke, even on a 50 with his head down. Lezak and Prilukov swim very asymmetrically. I've been told that I do too. My teammates sometimes make fun of it.

RE: Interesting thing about Phelps' stroke

Former Member — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 11:57:31 GMT

Woah. I've been watching that video over and over the last few days and I noticed the same thing! Freaky-deaky. I just figured it's because of his constant breathing. I also noticed he keeps his arm out there for a while before withdrawing it (is that loping? hm, nvm, it's not). And when he withdraws an arm, it slides underneath his lower torso. Of course, both of those things could be pretty elementary or automatic. edit: the flipturn and backstroke videos of Phelps by that same submitter are excellent, as well.

RE: Interesting thing about Phelps' stroke

rtodd — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 07:57:31 GMT

It seems like one intention of the "lope" is to get fully submerged, even momentarily, where there are less drag losses. Just a hunch.