Will our speedsuits be deemed illegal in 2009?

RE: Will our speedsuits be deemed illegal in 2009?

Former Member — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:25:35 GMT

LOL I think I can swim with or without 'em. So whatever. Be careful what you say, Kristina. Someone may challenge you to stick to your words. i.e., literally swimming without 'em. That I would like to see..........:bolt:

RE: Will our speedsuits be deemed illegal in 2009?

Former Member — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:56:57 GMT

People keep referring to speed suits as a form of “Technology”. However from the definitions listed below, it’s a little bit of a stretch of the imagination to refer to something that amounts to a glorified girdle or a corset as being a form of technology. :confused: education.yahoo.com/.../technology education.yahoo.com/.../girdle education.yahoo.com/.../corset Happy New Year!!! :banana: Dolphin 2

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Redbird Alum — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:03:30 GMT

I'm with the Wolf (and Geek, too) on this one... if you mandate suits purely on cost and availability, then there are other "technologies" that also need such "oversight" like caps, goggles, etc. People can and will spend their money any way they want. The pigeons have flown on this one for 2008. Let the ruling bodies do as they may in 2009, that is what they are in place to do. It will be amusing to see them all try to squirm into line on this one given the monies they all have taken from the suit makers.

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Former Member — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:10:06 GMT

I admit I feel sorry for some people. Children of adults who foolishly squander money are on my list.

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Former Member — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:40:10 GMT

I don't feel so sorry for all the Masters swimmers who have spent money on these suits, I feel sorry for all the parents that spent money on these suits for their kids, only to find out a few months later they can't use them. The reason for the associations banning these suits it to save parents money over the longer term. I also feel sorry for the parents who have been subject to pester power to buy the suits. Unless things have changed, then the racing life of these suits is very limited any way. Elite athletes will only wear them for a couple of swims before they are consigned to the scrap heap/e-bay.

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Former Member — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:31:45 GMT

I think instead of banning them they will allow small motors to be used. That should make some of these pro-suit people happy. Hey Cyclist I'm glad I've finally got some company on this tech suit issue. Now Aquageek (and other members of the Church Of Suit Technology) will have the moral equivalent of a "Two Headed Dragon" to deal with!!! :bump: Dolphin 2

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Former Member — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 13:59:16 GMT

That may not be such a good idea in reality.:) It might not be pretty, but we'd all train a little harder.

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aquageek — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:45:07 GMT

Why do people feel sorry for adults who have chosen how to spend their own money. What is there to be sorry for?

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swimshark — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 07:43:52 GMT

I assume your reasoning is that if you buy an expensive suit like this you should get to use it. However,on the other hand, if there is a valid reason to ban the suits (e.g, buoyancy) then they really should be banned immediately with no grace period. If this is the case they really shouldn't have been allowed in the first place. I agree, Kirk.

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orca1946 — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 03:59:48 GMT

Do we have any input into this?

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pwolf66 — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 02:29:55 GMT

Why do people feel sorry for adults who have chosen how to spend their own money. What is there to be sorry for? Because, Geek, apparently swim parents have absolutely no spine whatsoever and mindlessly fork out hundreds of $$$ just because thier swimming spawn insist on having these suits. Puh-leeze. Exactly how far down the 'level the economic playing field' do we go? Anyone priced goggles lately? How about swim caps? Anyone tried to rent a pool lately? Oh, wait, THAT swim program costs TWICE as much as the others, let's force them to lower thier rates. Jeez. Hey, that one is run by a world class coach, it's not fair. Oh even better, how about we mandate access to training programs? I mean, is it fair that Suzy Swimmer has 2 parents that can get her to her 12 practices a week while Bobby Breastroker's single mom works 2 jobs and he can't make more than 3?1 Folks, to say this is an ecomomic issue is misleading at best and an outright self delusion at worst. It's simple. If you don't see the ROI (that's Return On Investment for those who don't know) then keep your $$$. I know this will never happen as there will always be folks lining up to buy the latest and greatest but if everyone voted with thier pocket books, the price would HAVE to come down or the suits would disappear, either way, crisis averted.

RE: Will our speedsuits be deemed illegal in 2009?

Former Member — Sat, 27 Dec 2008 17:49:39 GMT

While I was on the phone I realized that if Swimming Australia Ltd, USA Swimming, and all of the other anti-speedsuit governing bodies have their way, speedsuits like the full bodied Speedo LZR, the TYR Tracer Light and Rise, the blueseventy Nero, and many others could be summarily outlawed? ...we can only hope so...

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Former Member — Sat, 27 Dec 2008 12:47:21 GMT

Thanks Keith for catching my point. Nothing that is being said about these suits are unique anymore. All the complaints are being rehashed and the reasons for keeping them are being rehashed. While I do hope we get to keep them, if not, then we swim fast without them.

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The Fortress — Sat, 27 Dec 2008 12:46:08 GMT

I highly doubt the currently legal suits will be declared illegal for masters. I suspect the PTB will draw the line at B140s and B210s and LZR/B70s combos and whatever other conglomeration of suits people have used.

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aquageek — Sat, 27 Dec 2008 12:41:16 GMT

I think instead of banning them they will allow small motors to be used. That should make some of these pro-suit people happy. I don't know if the suits will be illegal but bikers making any comment about swimming technology is already illegal, and comical to boot.

RE: Will our speedsuits be deemed illegal in 2009?

Former Member — Sat, 27 Dec 2008 12:25:10 GMT

Well, I've never swum with one on, so if they're banned, fine. I'll be grateful for ignorance's blissful blessing in not knowing what I'm missing. :bliss:

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Former Member — Sat, 27 Dec 2008 12:18:56 GMT

Lets just all swim naked. That may not be such a good idea in reality.:)

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smontanaro — Sat, 27 Dec 2008 12:09:31 GMT

I think instead of banning them they will allow small motors to be used. I mentioned it in another thread, but I think it's only a matter of time (perhaps a decade or two?) before they incorporate nanotechnology into swimsuit fabric. You could have millions of little solar-powered nanomotors. They would be developed first for military use (say, as part of a life vest or flight suit which would aid pilots shot down over water). Over time it would trickle down to more mundane use (like the Olympics).

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Former Member — Sat, 27 Dec 2008 10:11:17 GMT

LOL I think I can swim with or without 'em. So whatever. Lets just all swim naked.

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Former Member — Sat, 27 Dec 2008 09:23:59 GMT

Oh Man! That is the funniest thing I have ever heard. That is the most original statement anyone has made about the tech suits yet. HAHAHA... piece of advice...Don't quit your day job. Speaking of originality.

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Rykno — Sat, 27 Dec 2008 04:20:17 GMT

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Former Member — Fri, 26 Dec 2008 15:50:57 GMT

Ban them.

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Former Member — Fri, 26 Dec 2008 14:06:52 GMT

LOL I think I can swim with or without 'em. So whatever.

RE: Will our speedsuits be deemed illegal in 2009?

Former Member — Fri, 26 Dec 2008 13:26:13 GMT

I think instead of banning them they will allow small motors to be used. That should make some of these pro-suit people happy. Oh Man! That is the funniest thing I have ever heard. That is the most original statement anyone has made about the tech suits yet. HAHAHA... piece of advice...Don't quit your day job.

RE: Will our speedsuits be deemed illegal in 2009?

knelson — Fri, 26 Dec 2008 08:44:48 GMT

I suggest that if the suits have to be banned or even modifired, which I disagree with intensely, I hope there is a long grace period at the masters level to do so. Say like a year or two. I assume your reasoning is that if you buy an expensive suit like this you should get to use it. However,on the other hand, if there is a valid reason to ban the suits (e.g, buoyancy) then they really should be banned immediately with no grace period. If this is the case they really shouldn't have been allowed in the first place.