Butterfly vs. Breaststroke

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Former Member — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:39:15 GMT

I would have to say I like butterfly better, it is definitely a more graceful and beautiful looking stroke and the added difficulty of performing it makes me want to do it more. It goes back to the idea of always wanting what you can't have. Breaststroke just looks sloppy to me. I have finally started to get an idea of how to do breaststroke.

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ourswimmer — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 12:02:02 GMT

Please NO.We short axis people need to stick together against the long axis ones(the true axis of evil,especially those who didn't notice they are upside down.) Hey, now. Even Mr. Clemmons admits that the 200 backstroke has a certain numb-footed charm.

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Redbird Alum — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 03:39:35 GMT

To me, *** and Fly are like art.... Deeply complex, nice to look at, but hard to do! :D

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Jim Clemmons — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 11:15:57 GMT

OK, Justin Ritter, credit to you on a nice post. I'm having trouble disputing any of it, dang it. Wow, I know that was hard to do Geek but I'm proud of you.

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Allen Stark — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 10:59:45 GMT

Reststroke is NOT BR.You might as well say dogpaddle is crawl.

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elise526 — Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:26:12 GMT

I agree but don't you mean the opposite of pigeon-toed? I've always walked a little more toward the bowlegged end of the spectrum with my toes angled slightly outward if anything. I vividly remember in Kindergarten hating having to sit "indian style" (or the newer, more PC criss-cross-applesauce). I would always shift to a position with my feet and knees outside in a 'w'. I'm sure it has something to do with hip flexors or something. I also have a bit shorter legs and longer torso, I think. Then again, I think there are anatomical advantages for every stroke. It's been a long week. Yes, I meant the toes or feet turned outward. I do think there are anatomical advantages for each stroke. I know for sure that I don't have whatever advantage is needed for breaststroke.

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Former Member — Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:46:54 GMT

AMEN!!! Breastrokers are lane hogs too. Flyers are worse than breaststrokers when it comes to hogging a lane! Look out, everyone, wide arms coming through! Let's have all the true breaststrokers chime in....we're partial to breaststroke "not the reststroke"!

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Former Member — Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:04:59 GMT

How about that crazy butterfrog stroke? Butterfly arms / Breaststroke kick

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Former Member — Fri, 05 Dec 2008 07:41:14 GMT

breaststroke, like kicking with a board, promotes conversation and keeps your hair dry thus saving lots of $ on expensive conditioners.

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Former Member — Fri, 05 Dec 2008 07:25:14 GMT

It always seems to be the breaststrokers that want to be included with the flyers and the flyers want nothing to do with the breaststrokers ... AMEN!!! Breastrokers are lane hogs too.

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SLOmmafan — Fri, 05 Dec 2008 07:07:34 GMT

I love swimming, but I find that my stroke preference is based primarily on how long it will take me to get a lap done using that particular stroke. So, I don't really see the need for any other stroke besides front crawl - except to add unneccesary complication to an other wise straight forward task.

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aquageek — Fri, 05 Dec 2008 05:09:33 GMT

OK, Justin Ritter, credit to you on a nice post. I'm having trouble disputing any of it, dang it.

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Justin Ritter — Fri, 05 Dec 2008 04:38:18 GMT

As a breaststroker I think fly and *** are equally brutal and I dislike swimming either of them in workout pretty much the same. If even a 50 of *** doesn't get you out of breath then you're doing it wrong. I haven't swum a 200 fly in ages and ages but I can tell you I'd much, MUCH rather swim a 400 IM than a 200 ***. The 2-*** is an awful, awful event. It's a shame too since it's my best one. I agree that all the *** haters are just jealous that *** keeps them from having a fast IM. I've heard a million times "I don't swim IM because I can't swim ***" but how many times have you heard "I don't swim IM because I can't swim fly". That's right. If we're talking reststroke then we should be talking about back. How many times do you see someone finish a hard set or race and immediately start breasting? The first thing they do is flip over on their back and float along.

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The Fortress — Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:19:36 GMT

The stroke that coordinated people with strong legs do:) No, that's fly. :D

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Doug Adamavich — Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:05:57 GMT

What is breaststroke? The stroke that coordinated people with strong legs do:)

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The Fortress — Fri, 05 Dec 2008 02:46:21 GMT

What is breaststroke?

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aquageek — Fri, 05 Dec 2008 02:37:36 GMT

Reststroke is the only "stroke" that can also be done on the the side and back without any loss, or gain, of speed.

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gobears — Fri, 05 Dec 2008 02:16:20 GMT

I do believe, however, that there is a certain build required to be decent at breaststroke. I challenge somebody to find a swimmer good in breaststroke whose feet rolls in when they walk. Most breaststrokers I know walk almost pigeon-toed. I agree but don't you mean the opposite of pigeon-toed? I've always walked a little more toward the bowlegged end of the spectrum with my toes angled slightly outward if anything. I vividly remember in Kindergarten hating having to sit "indian style" (or the newer, more PC criss-cross-applesauce). I would always shift to a position with my feet and knees outside in a 'w'. I'm sure it has something to do with hip flexors or something. I also have a bit shorter legs and longer torso, I think. Then again, I think there are anatomical advantages for every stroke.

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Midas — Fri, 05 Dec 2008 02:12:25 GMT

Breaststroke taxes me more than butterly. Perhaps this is because I have a kick that brings me to a dead stop. It is a cool stroke that I wish I could have been better at doing. I do believe, however, that there is a certain build required to be decent at it. I challenge somebody to find a swimmer good in breaststroke whose feet rolls in when they walk. Most breaststrokers I know walk almost pigeon-toed. Really? Most breaststrokers I know walk with their feet at 45 degree (or more severe) angles away from dead center.

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Midas — Fri, 05 Dec 2008 02:09:51 GMT

Breaststroke (swum properly) is a graceful and very challenging stroke. Same goes for butterfly. Why can't we all get along?

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elise526 — Fri, 05 Dec 2008 02:09:50 GMT

Breaststroke taxes me more than butterfly. Perhaps this is because I have a kick that brings me to a dead stop. It is a cool stroke that I wish I could have been better at doing. I do believe, however, that there is a certain build required to be decent at breaststroke. I challenge somebody to find a swimmer good in breaststroke whose feet roll in when they walk. Most breaststrokers I know walk almost pigeon-toed.

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gobears — Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:59:40 GMT

Ah, breaststroke envy is so easy to spot. Of course you're jealous if you can't go faster than the old ladies noodling or old men drowning. Those of us who attained the higher skill of speed at breaststroke give you our most sincere condolences... :banana:

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FlyQueen — Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:54:05 GMT

Please NO.We short axis people need to stick together against the long axis ones(the true axis of evil,especially those who didn't notice they are upside down.) It always seems to be the breaststrokers that want to be included with the flyers and the flyers want nothing to do with the breaststrokers ...

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FlyQueen — Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:52:20 GMT

I don't think I need to state my preferred stroke ... however, I am firmly anti-breaststroke. It is for old ladies and to get from one somewhat icky stroke in the IM to the free.

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aquageek — Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:46:49 GMT

There's no dispute or controversy. Fly is a stroke intended to be raced and requires exertion. Frog is what they teach you to swim when you fall off a boat and need to get to shore with minimal effort. I polled the noodling class on this today. None had ever heard of fly but they all swore by frogstroke saying it reduced the chances of getting their hair wet by 98%.