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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://community.usms.org/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Seeing people out of context at meets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/swimming/f/general/7299/seeing-people-out-of-context-at-meets</link><description>Have any of you ever been at a meet and seen someone who, say, you&amp;#39;ve seen in a professional mode, say, for example, crying into kleenex in their office over your life trials, and suddenly you see this same person at a swim meet in a Speedo? And they</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 12</generator><item><title>RE: Seeing people out of context at meets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/110951?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:58:49 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:583e70c0-03c2-4f64-b8da-ec5283b61967</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>We talk about you a lot, Leonard.

Yes, the &amp;quot;eighth wonder of the world&amp;quot; - but not a good wonder. 

BTW, what&amp;#39;s the over/under among your MD buddies on when I&amp;#39;m going to drop dead? I might want to get a piece of that action.

-LBJ&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Seeing people out of context at meets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/110833?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:05:36 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:494a7dba-5bb3-4200-bd44-755112c91894</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Apparently, when MD&amp;#39;s get together at conferences, they tell patient stories. 

We talk about you a lot, Leonard.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Seeing people out of context at meets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/111382?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:22:28 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:26c4217d-6349-497b-8be9-4ffa31e98922</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>This discussion brings me a question: in everyday swimming (not at meets) do most pools allow &amp;#39;spectators&amp;#39; in ordinary clothes at the pools? I&amp;#39;ve seen a pool having the rule that such are not allowed, while at another pool I saw people (sometimes parents of kids) in ordinary clothes watching people swimming.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Seeing people out of context at meets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/110686?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:09:32 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:4cbf64db-b557-4b0d-8293-ac64ffbabe1d</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>My doctor was a teammate, and of course we competed together quite a bit.  He also performed my vasectomy after the birth of brat #2.  Fortunately, I was on the DARE program (Drugs Are Really Excellent) at the time, and my lasting memories of the procedure are reasonably pleasant ones. 

I see both my regular MD and my urologist (who did the V-snip on me) at the pool fairly regularly. No biggy. Yes, the DARE program is good.

Apparently, when MD&amp;#39;s get together at conferences, they tell patient stories. My urologist LOVES to tell other doc&amp;#39;s about how I discovered that I had prostate problems (in the middle of the Hudson River while doing the MIMS race). He says that no one can top that story - some kind of weird MD bragging rights, I guess.

-LBJ&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Seeing people out of context at meets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/111295?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 12:06:57 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:31eb2c4c-85fa-4226-b079-7df14e7a0b31</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>With some planning involved, I could definitely be coerced into doing the Trans-Tahoe relay!  And, Fort, I am planning for the Bermuda Round the Sound open water swim in the next year or two.  I would absolutely love to meet some other Forumites in Bermuda - Michelle, IMSpoiled, Poolraat, Hulk, Flyqueen, Geek?

BTW, I have no interest in mixing swimming and my professional life.  Talk about worlds colliding!&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Seeing people out of context at meets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/111090?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:54:24 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:f888c91d-8a52-44f5-b363-a2adf637381f</guid><dc:creator>slknight</dc:creator><description>I&amp;#39;d be more inclined to believe that Fortress agrees to go to Tahoe and sit in a hot tub while you guys swam in the lake (which is cold -- at least, by my internal thermostat -- even in the summer).

Chris, why don&amp;#39;t you be the 6th person? Then our team can consist of half UNC alums. :applaud:&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Seeing people out of context at meets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/111066?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:50:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:99f441e3-21e8-4977-a972-48ef9353a27c</guid><dc:creator>Chris Stevenson</dc:creator><description>Sweet - that makes you, me, Fort, poolrat and slknight.

I&amp;#39;d be more inclined to believe that Fortress agrees to go to Tahoe and sit in a hot tub while you guys swam in the lake (which is cold -- at least, by my internal thermostat -- even in the summer).&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Seeing people out of context at meets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/110930?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:33:21 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:0655b21e-e3f8-4ee1-9d44-275d7383ca19</guid><dc:creator>tjrpatt</dc:creator><description>It would be weird to run into people at masters meet that you know professionally. I think that I would vomit profusely if I saw my most recent &amp;quot;stupidvisor&amp;quot; at a masters meet.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Seeing people out of context at meets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/110817?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 08:25:31 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:b8c5e755-d3bf-4e6a-83c6-689fd7d1decf</guid><dc:creator>waves101</dc:creator><description>I prefer the out of context in public where you can walk right up to your swimmer friends and tell them they look different with their clothes on.  Always a conversation starter or stopper!  Certainly creates looks from non-swimmers in the group.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Seeing people out of context at meets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/110796?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 08:14:55 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:b033598e-4468-4ac9-a9bc-5b67fbba4149</guid><dc:creator>Mookie</dc:creator><description>My doctor was a teammate, and of course we competed together quite a bit. He also performed my vasectomy after the birth of brat #2. Fortunately, I was on the DARE program (Drugs Are Really Excellent) at the time, and my lasting memories of the procedure are reasonably pleasant ones. 
 
Yah, the DARE program had me cracking jokes during my snip snip.  The Doc and the nurse were laughing so hard they left the room mid procedure.  I didn&amp;#39;t care.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Seeing people out of context at meets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/110665?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 07:53:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:acd94b63-ce5f-496e-bfc8-acd4218fa57b</guid><dc:creator>aquageek</dc:creator><description>I loathe distance, open water, cold water, and I&amp;#39;d probably get hypothermia for the lack of wetsuit but I seriously could be talked into this just because it&amp;#39;s Tahoe.

Sweet - that makes you, me, Fort, poolrat and slknight.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Seeing people out of context at meets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/111274?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 06:34:18 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:bd507fc2-0327-4962-9e7e-a2920409f112</guid><dc:creator>aztimm</dc:creator><description>I haven&amp;#39;t swam in a meet for years, but I did have an interesting encounter at regular swim practice.

I&amp;#39;ve been swimming with the same group for about 10 years, and around 5-6 years ago started a new job.  One of the guys swimming looked a little familiar, but it took me a week or so (he didn&amp;#39;t swim every day) to place him, he was one of this new company senior VP&amp;#39;s.  One day after workout, I had just showered and was getting dressed, he came up and introduced himself (of course I knew who he was), and I introduced myself.  It got a little awkward after that in the office, he knew me (the new kid on the block) while he didn&amp;#39;t know many of my co-workers (some had been there a few years).  One day I was sitting at my desk, he walked by, and stopped to comment on the workout that morning.  Next thing, my boss&amp;#39;s boss (who reported to this VP) ran over to see what his boss wanted.  After I explained that we swam in the same group I think he felt a little better (but both my old boss and this boss have since left too).

I didn&amp;#39;t really think anything of what I wore....the VP was one of the few (only?) guys in our group who always wore jammers.  I wear my usual speedo-type suit with a drag suit over it.  Since the company is close to where I swim, we had a few employees who swam with the group, it was quite common to see co-workers.  But I left there about 3 years ago, for a different company.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Seeing people out of context at meets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/111254?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 06:22:32 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:f6616744-d85d-404b-b2fb-aaceb34cc6ca</guid><dc:creator>isobel</dc:creator><description>Hmm. Perhaps this thread should be retitled responding out of context to threads.... I mean I&amp;#39;m really interested in your should swim at Lake Tahoe and all, but what would happen if __________ was there and you really didn&amp;#39;t want to see ___________ due to various reasons. Would you drown _________? Tell _________ water is unusually warm, no wetsuit needed, only wimps were wearing wetsuits? What if you were side by side with ________? Etcetera. 
 
I have been amused by the high school response, the boss response, the co-workers response, the vasectomy responses, the wow! You look so different in clothes, response. I may have to wear a disguise. I think those fake nose/glasses things will do the trick. Subtle and all.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Seeing people out of context at meets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/111226?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 06:14:04 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:c7dcb792-60c0-44ca-a6f8-74cbac3949b0</guid><dc:creator>aquageek</dc:creator><description>The water temp is low 60&amp;#39;s usually, although it&amp;#39;s a bit warmer right at the surface. Unless it&amp;#39;s changed, 6 person team swims 30 min. each, then 15 min. each then 10 minute shifts until finish. Each team has to have a boat.

My friend who did this twice said it can vary significantly year to year and god help us if there&amp;#39;s cloud cover apparently.  

I&amp;#39;m gonna hold you all to this as I really think it would be fun.  I know having Fort there as our lead off will make it even more memorable.  Of course, we&amp;#39;ll have to give her a pep talk every 100 yards.

I asked my wife if she&amp;#39;d be willing to participate and I told her that casinos were nearby given her gambling problem.  I guess I really am #1 in her book cause that&amp;#39;s how many fingers she held up in response.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Seeing people out of context at meets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/111202?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 04:56:13 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:3d0448c9-720a-4013-a30a-2dbd3c0ccf24</guid><dc:creator>The Fortress</dc:creator><description>I was wondering if that fabulously named wife of yours ever got annoyed with all of your traveling for swim related things.

You people are all certifiable.  I will hand out hot cocoa.

I often have wondered whether it would be easier being married to a fellow masters swimmer.  I&amp;#39;m trying to urge Mr. Fort to compete more so that I hopefully get less of the eye rolling when I mention swim meets.  (Thankfully, he doesn&amp;#39;t mind the OCD exercising, as he does the same.)  On the other hand, my married teammates have to trade off and negotiate over meets.  That&amp;#39;s no fun either.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Seeing people out of context at meets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/111185?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 04:39:50 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:36824cf4-07be-4681-b9d6-c3cb2371a4b2</guid><dc:creator>FlyQueen</dc:creator><description>I&amp;#39;m willing in theory; it all depends on the timing. And on getting permission from She Who Must Be Obeyed :bow:, who is already grumbling about the number of swim meets/events I travel to.

Then again, I wasn&amp;#39;t picked for the Chesapeake Bay Swim lottery :bitching:, so this could take its place...

I was wondering if that fabulously named wife of yours ever got annoyed with all of your traveling for swim related things.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Seeing people out of context at meets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/110651?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 04:39:02 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:6520eedf-c35b-4a99-bac2-14aa99180416</guid><dc:creator>Rykno</dc:creator><description>not really work related issues, but a few times I have felt uncomfortable talking to the parents of some of the kids I swim with.  sicne I swim about 50/50 masters/kids.  some of the parents feel the need to congratulate me or ask me how my time was...it was more awkward the first 18 months or so, when my belly hung over my suit, but now that I am getting back into shape, and my times are dropping with every swim.
 
I remember feeling slightly awkward in college when the girls gymnastics team came to watch a meet, because the school wanted teams to support each other.
 
we had been to one of their competitions a few days earlier, and they should up, not sure about the others, but I felt slightly uneasy having them watch us (me) in my size 28 (nut huger) speedo.  it made it harder to hit on them later on.
 
same thing when the girls volley ball took time out from their practice to cheer us on.  no risk of hitting on them, I was 3 inches shorter then most of them.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Seeing people out of context at meets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/111175?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 04:08:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:c90a2692-0c22-43f9-9d35-1ddde07b4450</guid><dc:creator>poolraat</dc:creator><description>How far would each leg be and HOW cold is the water? This sounds like it might be interesting.
 
The water temp is low 60&amp;#39;s usually, although it&amp;#39;s a bit warmer right at the surface. Unless it&amp;#39;s changed, 6 person team swims 30 min. each, then 15 min. each then 10 minute shifts until finish. Each team has to have a boat.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Seeing people out of context at meets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/111154?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 03:59:51 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:49d53eba-34e1-462d-9abe-2db06db014d2</guid><dc:creator>Chris Stevenson</dc:creator><description>How far would each leg be and HOW cold is the water?  This sounds like it might be interesting.

&lt;a href="http://www.usms.org/fitness/articleofthemonth.php?a=137"&gt;www.usms.org/.../articleofthemonth.php&lt;/a&gt;

Mid-60s in the summer pretty much squares with my recollection. Even in the summer, morning temperatures can easily be in the 40s or colder (feels MUCH colder in the shade than in sunlight, as is typical for CA/NV).

I remember reading about the &amp;quot;Mighty Mermaids&amp;quot; doing this in our LMSC newsletter, they took 30 minutes shifts:

&lt;a href="http://www.vaswim.org/newsletters/2008/SeptWebsite.pdf"&gt;www.vaswim.org/.../SeptWebsite.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Seeing people out of context at meets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/111132?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 03:51:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:af1e3639-6246-48b5-bd68-9b1e22135fe7</guid><dc:creator>pwolf66</dc:creator><description>How far would each leg be and HOW cold is the water?  This sounds like it might be interesting.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Seeing people out of context at meets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/111109?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 03:39:05 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:9f0066bb-b347-48d0-a8a1-d78f8c57e2c5</guid><dc:creator>Chris Stevenson</dc:creator><description>Chris, why don&amp;#39;t you be the 6th person? Then our team can consist of half UNC alums. :applaud:

I&amp;#39;m willing in theory; it all depends on the timing. And on getting permission from She Who Must Be Obeyed :bow:, who is already grumbling about the number of swim meets/events I travel to.

Then again, I wasn&amp;#39;t picked for the Chesapeake Bay Swim lottery :bitching:, so this could take its place...&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Seeing people out of context at meets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/110464?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:05:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:5e6469a0-3cc1-4ec6-b34d-8b72b0a2b91f</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Don&amp;#39;t make fun of Stud crying into a Kleenex over his 6:00 200 free. We try to be supportive on this forum. Don&amp;#39;t be a hater.
 
 
You just being at a meet &amp;quot;out of context!&amp;quot;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Seeing people out of context at meets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/110635?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:43:20 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:f296e845-63f1-4b2a-b1ca-2cc684e95674</guid><dc:creator>FlyQueen</dc:creator><description>You are officially on my approved list.  I want to do this swim before I die.  Fort has also committed to doing it with me, just need two more.

I loathe distance, open water, cold water, and I&amp;#39;d probably get hypothermia for the lack of wetsuit but I seriously could be talked into this just because it&amp;#39;s Tahoe.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Seeing people out of context at meets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/110250?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:57:58 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:f0d74fb1-c460-4c72-beca-5adfdc9b15e7</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I kept seeing the Geek at swim meets in his Speedo.  I would post the picture again but Jim won&amp;#39;t allow it.  I finally had to move to Texas (&amp;quot;Come for the barbeque, stay for the angioplasty&amp;quot;).  Life is good.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Seeing people out of context at meets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/110152?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:52:55 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:6302f590-47bd-4463-89b6-19dd20979183</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Geek- when did you get a portable swimming pool?&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>