What's the longest butterfly race you could swim?

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james lucas — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:59:26 GMT

Here's a meet for people who like long fly: www-ee.stanford.edu/.../ Read, especially, the history: www-ee.stanford.edu/.../History.pdf Best time in the 1650 fly at this meet seems to be: 20:11.78

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ViveBene — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:23:33 GMT

I've always been intrigued by those people who do extreme long distance butterfly, like Vicky Keith. (Not that I'm ever planning to try something like that, I'm just amazed that it can be done!) Has anyone ever seen someone doing that, or know of an online video clip? Is the stroke done somewhat differently to be able to last so long? There used to be an online club called the Butternuts, for people who had done at least 500 continuous meters of 'fly. I tried to find it yesterday and just got a whole bunch of horticultural sites about walnut trees. A Chicago swimmer typically does the 5k Big Shoulders swim all butterfly. I'll see if I can find his Web site, then you can ask him many questions! Here's his author's bio on Amazon: www.amazon.com/.../192980900X Regards, VB

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pwolf66 — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 08:10:48 GMT

Can I change my vote to 110 yards? After yesterday's 100 Fly, I'm not sure I could have gone past that. :doh:

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Former Member — Sat, 25 Oct 2008 16:49:40 GMT

A fellow teammate completed a 1500m fly at one of our meets. Rec'd a standing ovation. He was my secret crush from there on out. :smooch:

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Former Member — Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:35:05 GMT

Here is a little something about butterfly and all strokes www.youtube.com/watch

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Former Member — Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:03:17 GMT

A friend of mine, Julie Bradshaw, did a 22 mile swim on fly. news.bbc.co.uk/.../2175526.stm

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Former Member — Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:58:33 GMT

The poll is flawed since it doesn't list 12m as an option! :banana:

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Former Member — Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:28:04 GMT

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Former Member — Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:28:56 GMT

I could probably only stay legal for about 200. in practice I have a hard time staying legal over 75m :whiteflag: What do you mean by "stay legal"?

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knelson — Sat, 25 Oct 2008 12:40:43 GMT

Is it illegal to do more than one kick between arm strokes? Not if it's a dolphin kick. I'm pretty sure you could dolphin kick an entire fly race without ever taking a single arm pull and be legal (as long as you surfaced before the 15m mark off each wall).

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Former Member — Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:03:35 GMT

Anything over 75 yards becomes "survival fly" for me.

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Former Member — Sat, 25 Oct 2008 09:39:40 GMT

Used to be a pretty good flyer when I was a kid. Right now I'm not in good enough shape to go more than a 25M or so.

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That Guy — Sat, 25 Oct 2008 09:28:22 GMT

I answered 400m since that's closest to my actual answer of 500 yards. I've done 500 fly in practice, though it wasn't pretty. If I can get to where I can swim 500 fly without feeling embarassed, I'll swim it in a meet. I suppose 400 SCM fly is a possibility as well. 400 LCM fly is not happening!:afraid:

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That Guy — Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:33:31 GMT

I'm going to try and race the 200 for the first time ever next month. Go CreamPuff Go!!! :cheerleader:

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Former Member — Sat, 25 Oct 2008 07:48:33 GMT

If the question read, "What's the longest butterfly swim I could race," my answer to date would be the 100 yards. I'm going to try and race the 200 for the first time ever next month. Typically I loaf part to most of the 200.

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Former Member — Sat, 25 Oct 2008 05:11:29 GMT

I feel like right now I could do an 800m fly...give me a few more weeks back in the water and the 1500m might be a possibility as well..I've only been back in for about 6 consecutive weeks (swimming 2 days a week ha)

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aquaFeisty — Sat, 25 Oct 2008 04:40:24 GMT

Following Creampuff's logic, I picked 50m. Anything longer than that, and my stroke isn't really racing, it's more 'mellow mode' (I have completed up to a 200 true fly). As for how long I could swim fly... using USMS rules and a breaststroke kick, however long my knees hold.

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Rykno — Sat, 25 Oct 2008 03:01:56 GMT

I could probably only stay legal for about 200. in practice I have a hard time staying legal over 75m :whiteflag:

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Former Member — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:22:44 GMT

There is a rule like that? Nah, I wouldn't do that, but I do have a question. Is it illegal to do more than one kick between arm strokes? That is currently the only way I can finish more than a 50 at the moment. I did attempt a 400 IM this week, and I finished it (yay!), but only with the extra kicks. :cry: Straight from the USMS Rule book: 101.3.3 Kick—All up and down movements of the legs and feet must be simultaneous. The position of the legs or the feet need not be on the same level, but they shall not alternate in relation to each other. The breaststroke or whip kick may be used exclusively or interchangeably with the dolphin kick while doing the butterfly stroke at any time during the race. Only one breaststroke or whip kick is permitted per arm pull, except that a single breaststroke or whip kick is permitted prior to the turn and the finish without an arm pull. After the start and after each turn, a single breaststroke or whip kick is permitted prior to the first arm pull. A scissors kicking movement is not permitted.

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Former Member — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:30:46 GMT

I saw a dude frog kicking during a 100 fly this weekend... I've never seen that in my life. I'm not sure I could even do that correctly, it seems like it would suck all the power out of the stroke.

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Former Member — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:02:39 GMT

There is a chance that I'd take advantage of the Masters rule that allows breaststroke kick.... There is a rule like that? Nah, I wouldn't do that, but I do have a question. Is it illegal to do more than one kick between arm strokes? That is currently the only way I can finish more than a 50 at the moment. I did attempt a 400 IM this week, and I finished it (yay!), but only with the extra kicks. :cry:

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Former Member — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:49:31 GMT

This thread should be changed from What's the longest butterfly race you could swim? It should have read What's the longest butterfly race you should swim?

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Former Member — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:07:10 GMT

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Former Member — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:49:44 GMT

I have done a legal 200 fly in practice. But I think I'd be faster with breaststroke. I would never race a 200 fly though. I haven't raced a 100 fly in four years though I regularly race 50s. There is a chance that I'd take advantage of the Masters rule that allows breaststroke kick....

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Former Member — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:43:09 GMT

I put 50, but it wouldn't be much of a race. I just started swimming fly a few months ago, and have just gotten to the point where I can swim it decently with fins. Just barely at the point where I actually do the last 100 of our 400 Reverse IM warmup, instead of making it a 300. The most I've tried so far without fins is a 50, and the last 10 or 15 yards were pretty ugly.