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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://community.usms.org/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>guidelines and restrictions on logo usage at US TRIALS</title><link>https://community.usms.org/swimming/f/general/6522/guidelines-and-restrictions-on-logo-usage-at-us-trials</link><description>what do y&amp;#39;all think about this? 

guidelines and restrictions on logo usage at US TRIALS

***MEMORANDUM***

TO: Coaches &amp;amp; Athletes at the 2008 U.S. Olympic Team Trials

FROM:	U.S. Olympic Committee &amp;amp; USA Swimming

DATE:	April 30, 2008

SUBJECT</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 12</generator><item><title>RE: guidelines and restrictions on logo usage at US TRIALS</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/96597?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 06:54:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:54f6a24e-9f41-49df-b5b5-5c7ccfb6d92a</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>NASCAR type suits.
 
We wouldn&amp;#39;t want to emulate NASCAR, the bleachers couldn&amp;#39;t handle the crowds.

Besides, all of the swimmers would have to be named Bobby or Danny.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: guidelines and restrictions on logo usage at US TRIALS</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/96519?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 05:01:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:2b37201c-8adc-4668-82ca-df479fb40ac7</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>NASCAR type suits.
 
We wouldn&amp;#39;t want to emulate NASCAR, the bleachers couldn&amp;#39;t handle the crowds.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: guidelines and restrictions on logo usage at US TRIALS</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/96478?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 07:09:59 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:6e33981d-0534-49c3-aae6-ac769f98c0f1</guid><dc:creator>swimshark</dc:creator><description>It&amp;#39;s simple, the rings logo is a copyrighted logo. It can not be used without permission. AS a graphic artist, I understand this well.

As for the other restrictions, I see no problems. USA swimming has a right to their own rules.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: guidelines and restrictions on logo usage at US TRIALS</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/96499?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 01:01:38 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:7c912ac0-6e4e-4be4-a2cd-73cca6707804</guid><dc:creator>knelson</dc:creator><description>We are preparing here for the Winter Olympics in 2010.

They are logo protecting also.

That&amp;#39;s right, George. I better not see you putting up an inukshuk in your front yard!&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: guidelines and restrictions on logo usage at US TRIALS</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/95570?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:28:18 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:e25933bf-6a8a-4159-b1a3-45de9fd0ff06</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Or cycling. That&amp;#39;s one of the things I like in swimming: generally swimmers aren&amp;#39;t plastered with ads like in some others sports.

20 square centimeters is about 3 square inches, or a square 1.75&amp;quot; per side. That seems plenty big for a logo.

The Olympic Committee has taken a very hard stance lately on use of the rings logo and I&amp;#39;m sure that&amp;#39;s why they are being so strict about that.

I don&amp;#39;t like it at all because what this does is take the marketing power from the swimmer and give it to the organization.  I think this is a free speech violation as well.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: guidelines and restrictions on logo usage at US TRIALS</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/95467?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:22:24 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:058d1cc4-5df4-455e-a386-6128317c6512</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>VISA&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: guidelines and restrictions on logo usage at US TRIALS</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/95370?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:42:49 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:931e0736-279c-4ab6-b2ae-d5f69964d543</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I guess there are always temporary tattoos or the use of a magic marker.  At a European Track and Field meet an athlete had to remove her anti doping slogan of her body.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: guidelines and restrictions on logo usage at US TRIALS</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/96408?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 12:32:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:0237af5c-126e-408a-bcc1-fbae545445b5</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I was in Phoenix for 4.5 hours on the way to the great white north. Paul was waiting for me at the border but I flew over it.

Vancouver has been rather cool since. Today was a little sunny but cool. We are preparing here for the Winter Olympics in 2010.

They are logo protecting also.

George!  June 6th in Phoenix?  I thought only Paul Smith was brain-fried enough to like that kind of dry heat.  I&amp;#39;m thinking you should spend summers in north country.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: guidelines and restrictions on logo usage at US TRIALS</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/96341?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 12:11:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:16a5ac1a-95f1-4022-ab4e-37ccdc4ef202</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Yes I was going to try and enter the Margarita Sprint to the finish. To see if I could get to the bottom of the glass before anyone else. I had a lot of practice at Wings Bar at the Phoenix airport on June the 6th. Where were you guys?

George!  June 6th in Phoenix?  I thought only Paul Smith was brain-fried enough to like that kind of dry heat.  I&amp;#39;m thinking you should spend summers in north country.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: guidelines and restrictions on logo usage at US TRIALS</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/95333?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:12:40 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:118facf4-0736-4d53-853b-f7b250b7885c</guid><dc:creator>knelson</dc:creator><description>Or cycling. That&amp;#39;s one of the things I like in swimming: generally swimmers aren&amp;#39;t plastered with ads like in some others sports.

20 square centimeters is about 3 square inches, or a square 1.75&amp;quot; per side. That seems plenty big for a logo.

The Olympic Committee has taken a very hard stance lately on use of the rings logo and I&amp;#39;m sure that&amp;#39;s why they are being so strict about that.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: guidelines and restrictions on logo usage at US TRIALS</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/95319?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:08:13 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:f5e07c3c-36ad-4bd6-a06b-1f22b6da2886</guid><dc:creator>aquageek</dc:creator><description>I guess the alternative is NASCAR type of suits.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: guidelines and restrictions on logo usage at US TRIALS</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/96269?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:50:14 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:144d084e-9304-412c-b6a2-23dba69d2012</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Yes I was going to try and enter the Margarita Sprint to the finish. To see if I could get to the bottom of the glass before anyone else. I had a lot of practice at Wings Bar at the Phoenix airport on June the 6th. Where were you guys?

Jim,

I believe that George was intending to compete and, therefore, be on deck with his older Olympic gear.  That might be a problem.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: guidelines and restrictions on logo usage at US TRIALS</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/96167?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:25:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:de8f3173-16cd-4a01-ad8e-6e79a79c1cfc</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>The memorandum is only directed to coaches and athletes. There&amp;#39;s no reference to spectators probably since they get to pay to watch.

Jim,

I believe that George was intending to compete and, therefore, be on deck with his older Olympic gear.  That might be a problem.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: guidelines and restrictions on logo usage at US TRIALS</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/96075?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:24:17 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:2cf4996a-e7e1-4661-929a-6977d78883e2</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>... it recieves Government funding so it is quasi-private at best...


I&amp;#39;m surprised to hear this.  Is that really true?  I&amp;#39;m wondering if you could tell me the sources and the amounts?

They are almost certainly a tax exempt organization, so, I guess, this could be viewed as Government funding.  Is this what you had in mind or are there really federal grants to USA Swimming?  This has really got my curiosity up...&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: guidelines and restrictions on logo usage at US TRIALS</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/95972?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:48:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:f9678815-e1e3-474e-a2a4-fc5a8791548e</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Give me a break, it&amp;#39;s a private organization, they set the rules.  No one is forcing the athletes to attend.  They can stay home and have all the free speech they want or they can go to the premier swimming event in the world for basically free and abide by some very minor regulations.  People who scream about free speech generally don&amp;#39;t have much of value to say, I&amp;#39;ve found.

1) You found what I said valuable enough to respond.  Well in fairness, I wasn&amp;#39;t screaming, so perhaps you weren&amp;#39;t talking about me?
2) In order to make your profession as a swimmer, you have to attend this swim meet, there are no other ways to qualify for the Olympics, it recieves Government funding so it is quasi-private at best.  I am generally not infavor of giving antitrust status to anyone.

I am surprised by your reaction geek.  It is quite Pro-Government / anti-individual.  Perhaps you are left leaning after all!  Congratulations.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: guidelines and restrictions on logo usage at US TRIALS</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/95878?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 08:33:20 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:a5c0128c-39c0-4a7a-8c44-f8f8dd720384</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>i worked at 2006 winter olympics in torino and we could only wear ascics who made our uniform. except the boots which were superga. if you chose to wear another brand or carry anything that deviated from the uniform, the brand had to be covered up with a piece of masking tape. it got to be quite the joke. and we were only workers not athletes.

That must have been an amazing experience!  I&amp;#39;m jealous!  I hope to someday see a winter Olympics in person!&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: guidelines and restrictions on logo usage at US TRIALS</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/96246?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 06:28:37 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:10c2fdf4-c318-4fda-a1c5-4a11d4bbf15c</guid><dc:creator>aquageek</dc:creator><description>I am surprised by your reaction geek.  It is quite Pro-Government / anti-individual.  Perhaps you are left leaning after all!  Congratulations.

Actually, it&amp;#39;s pro-private business so I&amp;#39;m quite consistent.

There are thousands upon thousands of companies that receive government money.  Doesn&amp;#39;t make them a government organization in the least.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: guidelines and restrictions on logo usage at US TRIALS</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/96060?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 06:21:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:0e8f9f26-8f0c-41ae-a83a-ce8a5c04f27e</guid><dc:creator>Jim Clemmons</dc:creator><description>Presumably not.

The memorandum is only directed to coaches and athletes. There&amp;#39;s no reference to spectators probably since they get to pay to watch.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: guidelines and restrictions on logo usage at US TRIALS</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/95749?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 05:44:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:1c4be5ef-4a2a-4239-ba90-d0113d809be6</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Give me a break, it&amp;#39;s a private organization, they set the rules.  No one is forcing the athletes to attend.  They can stay home and have all the free speech they want or they can go to the premier swimming event in the world for basically free and abide by some very minor regulations.  People who scream about free speech generally don&amp;#39;t have much of value to say, I&amp;#39;ve found.


Oh, snap!  :cool:&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: guidelines and restrictions on logo usage at US TRIALS</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/95957?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 05:22:16 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:af41bb3b-2ab7-4a48-871c-80ebdf725f01</guid><dc:creator>knelson</dc:creator><description>Could I wear my Olympic Team Jacket if I attended?? Or my Olympic sweat suit?? from 1956.

Presumably not.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: guidelines and restrictions on logo usage at US TRIALS</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/95644?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 05:13:13 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:54df473c-b495-4514-9072-729630b07054</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Could I wear my Olympic Team Jacket if I attended?? Or my Olympic sweat suit?? from 1956.

I have them stored in a cedar Chest.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: guidelines and restrictions on logo usage at US TRIALS</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/95942?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 05:09:58 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:dca0579f-0001-4149-8950-ad6ea9b588a4</guid><dc:creator>swimcat</dc:creator><description>unfortunately, when you work, you don&amp;#39;t see a lot. i worked the ski venues at sestriere in the VIP tent most of the time. with ski events, it is like car racing, you have to watch the big screen.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: guidelines and restrictions on logo usage at US TRIALS</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/95861?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 02:34:19 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:00cdcd69-e49e-4efb-8b9c-48b51b085a87</guid><dc:creator>swimcat</dc:creator><description>i worked at 2006 winter olympics in torino and we could only wear ascics who made our uniform. except the boots which were superga. if you chose to wear another brand or carry anything that deviated from the uniform, the brand had to be covered up with a piece of masking tape. it got to be quite the joke. and we were only workers not athletes.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: guidelines and restrictions on logo usage at US TRIALS</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/95725?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 01:37:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:555dd976-2d2d-485b-8f4e-2b3556b033ac</guid><dc:creator>aquageek</dc:creator><description>I don&amp;#39;t like it at all because what this does is take the marketing power from the swimmer and give it to the organization.  I think this is a free speech violation as well.

Give me a break, it&amp;#39;s a private organization, they set the rules.  No one is forcing the athletes to attend.  They can stay home and have all the free speech they want or they can go to the premier swimming event in the world for basically free and abide by some very minor regulations.  People who scream about free speech generally don&amp;#39;t have much of value to say, I&amp;#39;ve found.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>