2008 Us Olympic Team Trials - Swimming

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Former Member — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:30:36 GMT

great swimmers want to train with other great swimmers for a great coach in a great facility since shanteau arrived in Austin as an IMer then in the 200 LCM *** he dropped from 2:17 to 2:10, giving him a way better chance than trying to edge out phelps and lochte in the IMs last year spann was 2:14, he made phenominal improvements, Randy Reese coached him in high school, Bowman coached him at Michigan then Eddie coached him when he transferred to UT Many top recruits come to Austin to represent UT and be coached by Eddie, they like it and stay after they graduate Many more TXLA swimmers didn't make the US Olympic Team Also don't discount UT's womens program they have some excellent recruits coming in UT's women's program has been a laggard - but next fall Hersey, Gingrich, and Riefenstahl arrive on campus. They will suddenly improve dramatically.

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ande — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:19:19 GMT

great swimmers want to train with other great swimmers for a great coach in a great facility shanteau arrived in Austin as an IMer, then in the 200 LCM ***, he dropped from 2:17 to 2:10, giving him a way better chance than trying to edge out phelps and lochte in the IMs last year spann was 2:14, he made phenomenal improvements, Randy Reese coached him in high school, Bowman coached him at Michigan then Eddie coached him when he transferred to UT Many top recruits come to Austin to represent UT and be coached by Eddie, they like it and stay after they graduate Many more TXLA swimmers didn't make the US Olympic Team Also don't discount UT's womens program they have some excellent recruits coming in Matt, Perhaps critical isn't the right word to use. TXLA with 8/22 had 36.4% of the mens team. The four teams with 2+ qualifiers had 15 swimmers, 68% of the team. It is a matter of numbers and stats. 11 clubs qualified one male swimmer for the Olympics. That doesn't tell me that it is CRITICAL to swim for TXLA if you want to go to the olympics. However, the fact that TXLA has 8 swimmers going tells me there is a high CORRELATION with that program and Olympic berths.

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Former Member — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:53:16 GMT

When you have a swimmer who was thought to be locked into an Olympic berth, and then said swimmer fails to qualify, of course he is going to get interviewed. Of course, the interviews of the winners should have come first...ideally.

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Former Member — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:41:08 GMT

Katie Hoff announced the other day that she will be coming back to NBAC and assistant coaching at Loyola College in Baltimore, MD....where I will be attending....sweet niblets.

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Former Member — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:05:01 GMT

Back to work today......... Day 1 was awesome to sit and watch......my son and I made both prelims and finals!!!!! Right down at pool level!!!! Watching Phelps and Lochte swim that 400 IM was insane.....and then Katie Hoff blasting past Biesel on the Breaststroke and winning in WR pace.....well worth the trip out there!!!!

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Former Member — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 12:55:27 GMT

Dara's 5O During the comentator's remarks he said she had improved her dive. He said she had her back foot in the proper position. Dara said I worked on my dives this morning. I looked at it again and she did a very good dive. Her Back foot was what I had been talking about ealier and pointed out that many of the swimmers had a bad rear foot placement.

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tjrpatt — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 12:18:22 GMT

I think Hansen faded in the 200 BR because he had Kitajima on his mind.He went out fast,maybe trying to get his WR back and couldn't hold it.I think if he just swam to win he would have. Also NBC did there usual lousy job.Poor technical explanations,not interviewing Spann.Some times they even circled the wrong swimmer with their graphics etc. Allen,you are right now. I am a Hansen supporter but, the guy who didn't make the team shouldn't have been interviewed. It was Shanteau and Spann's time in the spotlight. But, I have to say that Hansen was very composed in the interview after such a disastrous swim.

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Allen Stark — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 12:09:38 GMT

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tjrpatt — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 11:23:06 GMT

I was referring to whoever said the 1500 was too long for him. I don't think it is. :drown: I'm so thrilled he's on the relay though. 14:46, very good. Maybe it isn't too long. He does seem very inconsistent with the 1500. Then again, who wouldn't be in that race. I was just hoping that this time would be different. Watching the 1500 makes me want to 1500 free in LC. I might have to wait until next summer. My zone Champs only have the 800 which I will sign up for. I won't be able to go to Nationals this summer. If only I had the Dara Torres cash flow right now!

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Former Member — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 07:07:28 GMT

I bet there's many errors. Hersey is 18 not 19.

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Former Member — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 06:57:36 GMT

My impression, based on her interview, was that DT was still planning on swimming the relay, just not the individual. So it would still be just the top 6 needed. On the team roster on the US Swim site at: www.usaswimming.org/.../U.S. Olympic Swim Team Roster.pdf Torres is not listed for the 100 free and no one else has been added. (this list is not error free, however e.g. Marshall listed for the 100 relay instead of the 200)

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Former Member — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 06:56:28 GMT

Matt, Perhaps critical isn't the right word to use. TXLA with 8/22 had 36.4% of the mens team. The four teams with 2+ qualifiers had 15 swimmers, 68% of the team. It is a matter of numbers and stats. 11 clubs qualified one male swimmer for the Olympics. That doesn't tell me that it is CRITICAL to swim for TXLA if you want to go to the olympics. However, the fact that TXLA has 8 swimmers going tells me there is a high CORRELATION with that program and Olympic berths. I would probably reduce the TXLA swimmer count by one actually. Scott Spann spent the last two years swimming for Bowman and only recently moved to TXLA after Bowman left U of M. Spann did very well under Michigan. He swam for Randy Reese before he went to Michigan.

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Former Member — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 06:43:42 GMT

Matt, Perhaps critical isn't the right word to use. TXLA with 8/22 had 36.4% of the mens team. The four teams with 2+ qualifiers had 15 swimmers, 68% of the team. It is a matter of numbers and stats. 11 clubs qualified one male swimmer for the Olympics. That doesn't tell me that it is CRITICAL to swim for TXLA if you want to go to the olympics. However, the fact that TXLA has 8 swimmers going tells me there is a high CORRELATION with that program and Olympic berths. I am inclined to believe that if those TXLA athletes trained at the MAC or for CW, they would have fared very similarly in these trials. But perhaps you are correct, TXLA is just a better program.

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Former Member — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 05:55:00 GMT

It is interesting that TXLA has no female qualifiers. Hayley just missed. The interesting thing to recognize is that all the TXLA males are coached by Eddie Reese - the UT coach. I believe all of the TXLA females are coached by Randy Reese. I'm not making a statement - just an observation. TXLA had many women at the trials - they just didn't make the team. They are generally younger girls.

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dorothyrde — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 05:50:49 GMT

At first I was annoyed i'd have to fast forward through all those track & field events (plus commercials), but now i'm glad I was forced to watch our country's finest make their way to Bejing! Suddenly, you watch some of these events (and learn what they are), then you really care who makes it! The bonus of the night: best dive award goes to that girl in the 200 (running) that totally stumbled and DOVE across the finish line to earn that 3rd place/Olympic spot - it was amazing!!! I'm going to watch more track and field from now on!!! If you missed it, I think it was before the swim events. Correct me if i'm wrong. Were there any Outside Smokers (actual lane 1 or 8) in swimming make the team this year? I enjoyed the track and field competitors as well as the swimming. Majorly impressed with the speed of the 1500 meters, and the men's race in that was very interesting. I guess shoving is legal.

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Former Member — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 05:30:06 GMT

You forgot the fact that Rowdy Gains was falling all over himself to talk about Michael Phelps, whether it was pertinent to the situation or not. I was bummed KLJ didn't make the team, and that Vendt didn't make any individuals. Other than that Beisel seems like a fresh young face, which is probably good. Kara Lynn may still get on the team. Emily Silver broke her hand on the finish of the 50 prelims(I think). They don't know if it will require surgery or not but if she is removed from the team, Kara Lynn will be on it in her place. Side note...if Dara drops out of the 100 free, does that mean everyone moves up a spot? Then Kara Lynn would still be on the team and if Silver is off the team, would Amanda Weir be added to make up the 6 spots?

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Former Member — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 05:29:57 GMT

Do you really think club selection is that critical between CW, TXLAST, USC, and MAC?

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Former Member — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 05:09:13 GMT

I think Hansen faded in the 200 BR because he had Kitajima on his mind.He went out fast,maybe trying to get his WR back and couldn't hold it.I think if he just swam to win he would have. Also NBC did there usual lousy job.Poor technical explanations,not interviewing Spann.Some times they even circled the wrong swimmer with their graphics etc. You forgot the fact that Rowdy Gains was falling all over himself to talk about Michael Phelps, whether it was pertinent to the situation or not. I was bummed KLJ didn't make the team, and that Vendt didn't make any individuals. Other than that Beisel seems like a fresh young face, which is probably good.

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Chris Stevenson — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 02:49:38 GMT

Side note...if Dara drops out of the 100 free, does that mean everyone moves up a spot? Then Kara Lynn would still be on the team and if Silver is off the team, would Amanda Weir be added to make up the 6 spots? My impression, based on her interview, was that DT was still planning on swimming the relay, just not the individual. So it would still be just the top 6 needed.

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Muppet — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 02:13:31 GMT

Do you really think club selection is that critical between CW, TXLAST, USC, and MAC? Matt, Perhaps critical isn't the right word to use. TXLA with 8/22 had 36.4% of the mens team. The four teams with 2+ qualifiers had 15 swimmers, 68% of the team. It is a matter of numbers and stats. 11 clubs qualified one male swimmer for the Olympics. That doesn't tell me that it is CRITICAL to swim for TXLA if you want to go to the olympics. However, the fact that TXLA has 8 swimmers going tells me there is a high CORRELATION with that program and Olympic berths.

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Muppet — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 01:16:07 GMT

If you are a man and want to go to the olympics, move to Austin and train with Longhorn Aquatics. 8/22 men came from there. Hansen, Berens, Piersol, Spann, Weber-Gale, Shanteau, Crocker, Walters. CW has three men; Trojan and MAC each with two. Women had a bunch of clubs two swimmers: Cal (Caughlin, Silver), Trojan (Hardy, Soni), Stanford (Smit, Breeden), King (Hoelzer, Jendrick), Bruin (Beard, Vandenberg); but none with more. Trojan is the only one with more than 1 for both genders (M:Jensen, Keller; W:Hardy, Soni)

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smontanaro — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 01:15:19 GMT

Katie Hoff ... will be ... coaching at Loyola College in Baltimore, MD....where I will be attending....sweet niblets. What does corn have to do with swimming? Is that Katie's secret? Is she juiced on maize? Skip

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Former Member — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 14:30:21 GMT

I found Hall Jr.'s "Godfather of Swimming" cape to be slightly ridiculous. However, I also found myself trying to defend him a little bit to the members of my extended family crowded around my television. They thought he looked like a fool. They were also embarrassed that he seemed to typify the stereotypical obnoxious American. I think they were glad he didn't make the team. I've enjoyed Hall's poolside shtick in the past, but for some reason, it looked kind of silly last night. He'll be back in some shape or form down the road.

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Former Member — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 14:18:02 GMT

It can happen to anyone. In 1956 George Breen set the world record 17:52.9 for 1500m in the heets of the 1500 at the Olympics in Melbourne. Lost the event to Murray Rose in 17:58.9 the finals he swam much slower and got the bronze in 18:08.2. I was referring to whoever said the 1500 was too long for him. I don't think it is. :drown: I'm so thrilled he's on the relay though.

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Former Member — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 13:46:50 GMT

Are you aware that his best time is a 14:46? He was way off it. It can happen to anyone. In 1956 George Breen set the world record 17:52.9 for 1500m in the heets of the 1500 at the Olympics in Melbourne. Lost the event to Murray Rose in 17:58.9 the finals he swam much slower and got the bronze in 18:08.2.