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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://community.usms.org/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>What&amp;#39;s your mile time?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/swimming/f/general/6354/what-s-your-mile-time</link><description>Hey everyone!

I&amp;#39;m doing a little statistical poll that compares one&amp;#39;s average running mile time to their average swimming mile time. (I realize that is harder...because when we swim a mile straight--generally for us as competitive swimmers we are swimming</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 12</generator><item><title>RE: What's your mile time?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/95105?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 16:28:10 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:215bbf91-5230-468d-9efd-cad9d5c2b85d</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I ran two miles earlier this week, I came in somewhere north of ... 16 minutes.  I would fail an Army PT test today.  Oh well, at least I can actually run two miles without collapsing (which I would have no hope of doing a year ago).  We&amp;#39;ll see if adding some jogging to my routine helps those 1500/1650 times.  Another one minute time drop would be great!&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What's your mile time?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/95224?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 10:57:24 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:e3c6ff36-0f1d-4608-8519-4c0ebdccc58e</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I went and ran two miles at the nearby high school track this AM, and let&amp;#39;s just say my earlier 2-mile measurements (on neighborhood streets) were incorrect and I&amp;#39;m quite a ways north of 16 minutes, I&amp;#39;m kind of embarrassed to say how far north.  But I did finish and was not gasping for air at the end.  I don&amp;#39;t know how much of it is general aerobic conditioning versus my legs not being in shape for it.

Anyway I will be the guinea pig for this experiment.  My run and swim times from earlier ages are known, and we&amp;#39;ll see what my 2 mile run time is in August as well as my 1500m free time, using both running and swimming for training this summer.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What's your mile time?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/95189?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 05:42:45 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:fc50d2e7-610e-4c11-aec4-5db32d9a3a3d</guid><dc:creator>aztimm</dc:creator><description>I ran two miles earlier this week, I came in somewhere north of ... 16 minutes.  I would fail an Army PT test today.  Oh well, at least I can actually run two miles without collapsing (which I would have no hope of doing a year ago).  We&amp;#39;ll see if adding some jogging to my routine helps those 1500/1650 times.  Another one minute time drop would be great!

If that was 16 min for 2 miles, you&amp;#39;d be fine (depending on your age of course, this is for my age, 37 to 41):
&lt;a href="http://usmilitary.about.com/od/army/l/blfitmal37to41.htm"&gt;usmilitary.about.com/.../blfitmal37to41.htm&lt;/a&gt;

An 8 min/mile pace is rather respectable.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What's your mile time?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/94916?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:00:07 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:9f18138a-3a18-4336-a62d-2d898f426b18</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>on most triathlons, where the swim is relatively short compared to the run, you probably easily catch people who beat you on the swim.
 
True, but I&amp;#39;d rather not put that much pressure on my bike and run.  
 
Besides, I enjoyed my first meet last December and I need to make improvements before I do another.  They&amp;#39;re coming, but very slowly.
:drown::help:&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What's your mile time?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/94850?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:40:01 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:eebdc5b6-8c06-4be7-bb11-9d3217d1777b</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>That&amp;#39;s probably the reason, it sounds completely plausible to me.


2) The current best theory is that it was chosen by continental European track federations as a way of maintaining the same skills as the mile, but not bowing to the English, which 1600 meters would have been perceived as doing. Politics in sport is not a new thing.

-LBJ&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What's your mile time?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/94766?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:38:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:5fae82d7-0a28-40e5-a9bb-d9a28f0ce7f3</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>on most triathlons, where the swim is relatively short compared to the run, you probably easily catch people who beat you on the swim.

Male: 45
 
Competitive runner in to college.
 PB at 20 years old 4:11
 
Began swimming October 2005
 
Record 1650 scy is right at 33 mins done 2007.
 
Probably data outside your parameters.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What's your mile time?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/95006?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:20:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:9150277c-142f-4d70-a520-fc30b8c4f9c9</guid><dc:creator>aztimm</dc:creator><description>My Data:

Age: 22
Gender: Female
Background: Swimming: competitive swimmer since 4th grade (swam in college all 4 years)  Running: no competitive history really (just a few seasons of high school track) like to run...as a 7th grader ran a 6:23.04 mile in the presidential fitness challenge...haven&amp;#39;t hit that mark again haha.

Swimming: 19:30minutes at a leisurely pace...I&amp;#39;ve never swam the mile in a meet.
Running:  7:40ish at the moment (hoping to bring that down to at least 6:50 over the summer)

Age:  38
Background:  swimming--no formal swimming other than lessons as a kid.  Joined a USMS team in 1998, been at it since.
Running--only formal experience was 4 years while in the US Army.  Did some sprint triathlons in 1997, got back into running about 2 yrs ago.

Swimming a 1650 SCY:  about a 21:30, sometime since Jan 1,2008 (don&amp;#39;t remember exact date).  
Running a mile:  
*  Best 2 mile Army PT run:  10:15 in 1993 (if we scored 90%+ on each event we were exempted from most formal organized PT)
*  My stint with triathlons:  a 5k at a 7 min/mile pace (summer 1997)
*  Most recent best 1 mile:  7:55 (pretty accurate, according to nikeplus.com, last Wed Apr 9, 2008).  Hoping to get this back around 7 min/mile or better (I&amp;#39;m afraid my days sub-6:00 are gone).&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What's your mile time?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/95034?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 06:21:16 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:c1d9edd4-023a-46e6-8318-2a36f0f5fe65</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>That&amp;#39;s probably the reason, it sounds completely plausible to me.

Apologies for hijacking yet again (NEVER get me started on track and field), but here is a different and very interesting view of this question. (4+ MB download)

&lt;a href="http://www.lhs.fuhsd.org/alumni/NOTEMPLATE/500moval.pdf"&gt;www.lhs.fuhsd.org/.../500moval.pdf&lt;/a&gt;

-LBJ&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What's your mile time?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/95022?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 01:12:33 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:4d5893de-cb23-4066-a6dd-580476a1f170</guid><dc:creator>poolraat</dc:creator><description>Age 56.
Male
The last time I ran a timed mile I was in my mid 30&amp;#39;s. It was a road race, straight course and I went about 4:35. I went faster on the track when I was in college but that was too long ago to remember. I didn&amp;#39;t start swimming until 8 years ago and my best mile was while doing the postal 3000 a little more than a year ago. Based on my splits I went by the mile at about 25:15.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What's your mile time?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/94232?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:50:02 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:48e965db-fb50-47cc-a65b-c8510ad9cb0c</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>George, I think you may have provided a hint there.  1650 and 1760 could both be swum in a 55 yard pool (I never knew such a thing existed).  1650 is the largest distance less than one mile that could be swum in both 25 and 55 yard pools.  I mean where the distance is evenly divisible.

Now the mystery is why the track event is 1500 and not 1600 meters.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What's your mile time?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/94588?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:51:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:5f41ef74-f6a2-410c-9b72-51a911318553</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>It really is time to get back on track and not that 500m French track.

Ok, Ok, George made his point, can we get back to answering Morgan&amp;#39;s question?  We all know what she is talking about.  

Me, 27y/o male,
swimming since 5 y/o, no USS/NCAA experience :oldman:

Best 1650y: 18:57.99, 2006
best lc 1500: 19:35.66 2007 (USMS AA)
best 1mi OW: 22.17 2007

running, in a 1.4 mi run as part of a tri, ran a 6:35pace mile.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What's your mile time?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/94513?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:47:17 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:a890dde1-eead-4a0d-98b2-c07fb053627e</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Ok, Ok, George made his point, can we get back to answering Morgan&amp;#39;s question?  We all know what she is talking about.  


haha, thanks for trying to steer the thread back...&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What's your mile time?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/94418?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:05:51 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:a3c991eb-54ce-4cc5-9f99-0f0edc4d3a76</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>And as a little thread-jack, how many people back in the day complained when track spikes were invented about how all the old records would be broken?  I&amp;#39;ve been thinking about that while reading all the hullabaloo about the LZR.


Actually, the use of spikes goes back to the 1800&amp;#39;s and I doubt there was much outcry. However, I do remember all the debate about synthetic tracks vs the old cinder tracks that occured from about 1964 (after the Tokyo Olympics, which was the first Olympics on a synthetic track) to the early 70&amp;#39;s, when they became fairly common. Fast cinder tracks, like the one Rutgers University had, were known as &amp;quot;Gunpowder tracks.&amp;quot;

-LBJ&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What's your mile time?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/94356?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:58:25 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:54fc339b-7cb8-4d6f-9ac9-ae209fc2b44e</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>But why did track choose the 1,500 meter as a standard event distance rather than 1,600?


This is not known with certainty. There are 2 theories: 
1) Some tracks in France were 500 m and 3X500=1500. This theory is largely discounted, the reason being that track started as an English event (where tracks were more likely to be 440 yards or so) and spread to the U.S. before it caught on in continental Europe, so it&amp;#39;s unlikely that the size of French tracks played much of a role. Note that races like the 500m or 1000m never developed much in popularity (although they do exist to this day, esp the 1000), which might have been expected if the tracks were 500 m.
2) The current best theory is that it was chosen by continental European track federations as a way of maintaining the same skills as the mile, but not bowing to the English, which 1600 meters would have been perceived as doing. Politics in sport is not a new thing.

-LBJ&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What's your mile time?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/94497?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 09:48:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:159ba694-3e2d-4941-b0dc-12c23cdf08f0</guid><dc:creator>art_z</dc:creator><description>Kids in Canada do not know how many feet or yards there are in a mile.

In the USA if a kid wrote a test and said a mile is 1650 yards he would surely fail the test.

Most kids in America don&amp;#39;t know how many feet or yards are in a mile either! :shakeshead:&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What's your mile time?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/94331?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:33:43 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:2cf372b1-bfaf-4294-9720-c8797881c6c7</guid><dc:creator>Muppet</dc:creator><description>Ok, Ok, George made his point, can we get back to answering Morgan&amp;#39;s question?  We all know what she is talking about.  

Me, 27y/o male,
swimming since 5 y/o, no USS/NCAA experience :oldman:

Best 1650y: 18:57.99, 2006
best lc 1500: 19:35.66 2007 (USMS AA)
best 1mi OW: 22.17 2007

running, in a 1.4 mi run as part of a tri, ran a 6:35pace mile.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What's your mile time?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/94658?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 07:46:19 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:a6a74268-158d-48ab-911a-b410018d8cda</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Male: 45
 
Competitive runner in to college.
 PB at 20 years old 4:11
 
Began swimming October 2005
 
Record 1650 scy is right at 33 mins done 2007.
 
Probably data outside your parameters.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What's your mile time?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/93006?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:28:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:ff0a7fea-6968-43a2-97d6-e07bf5b4509b</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Geek, in consideration of where you grew up (Alabama, right?) you really are quite clever.

Krik, I believe he was referring to the Canadian Army, which some might call a cavalry.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What's your mile time?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/92900?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:26:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:8e909067-d803-4fa7-9d3f-bd677a710ec9</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I know for a fact that a mile is a mile, in the USA. In the USA it is 1760 yards not 1650 yards. When they compete in running the event a quarter mile is a 440. The mile run in the USA is 1760 yards not 1650 yards.

Is the Salvation Army an army??? I know they supplied tea and coffee to the troops in the Second World War.

Yes, and people on horses is not an army but they call it that anyway.  Each country does their own thing.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What's your mile time?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/92742?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:20:19 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:a702a977-dcd5-4df2-8589-3abffc0dadde</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Why would any one call 1650 yards a mile? It is not a mile. You just cheated by 110 yards. You 1650 guys better add at least another one minute and 30 seconds to your time.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What's your mile time?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/92628?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:57:28 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:570419fa-3a62-42ce-9850-1b3375d9fb4f</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Leonard, a 4:23 mile is pretty fast!

My times are 19:00 1650 at age 14, 20:31 today.  About 13:15 2 mile run (never did just 1 mile for time) at age 21.  I would probably do about 7:30 for 1 mile today if I tried.  I plan to find out soon because I&amp;#39;ve been slowly adding jogging to my training.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What's your mile time?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/92541?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:56:17 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:4ceb550d-1e62-4773-8cc4-4b1e596bd163</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Mine&amp;#39;s a bit complicated:
Age: 52
Gender:M
Mile run best: 4:23 (at age 17 - should have been faster since I was a 1:57.5 half-miler at age 16, but I was too into girls... ) Could probably do 5:45 or so now, but my back injury prevents it.
Mile walk best: 6:25 on the way to 5km (age 27). Could probably do 7:30 or so now if I didn&amp;#39;t have the back injury.
Best 1650 swim: 21:45 (2 years ago, in practice with open turns)

-LBJ&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What's your mile time?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/92885?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:20:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:5d35c469-1914-4d50-ad17-3951c8177632</guid><dc:creator>knelson</dc:creator><description>Yes, and people on horses is not an army but they call it that anyway.

I&amp;#39;d use an avatar of something going over my head, but I don&amp;#39;t see one...

What&amp;#39;s your reference here?&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What's your mile time?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/92860?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:11:13 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:5cfc4e0e-23e5-4557-a279-93fa57eae3e9</guid><dc:creator>aquageek</dc:creator><description>Why would any one call 1650 yards a mile? It is not a mile. 

Yes, and people on horses is not an army but they call it that anyway.  Each country does their own thing.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What's your mile time?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/92839?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 11:36:18 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:786e8f53-a8d7-4f2b-ad1b-f120c680e98b</guid><dc:creator>knelson</dc:creator><description>You&amp;#39;re right, of course, George, but many people know their time for 1650 yards, but don&amp;#39;t know it for 1760 yards. I guess they could just extrapolate by multiplying their 1650 time by 1.067.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>