John Smith is a cheater

RE: John Smith is a cheater

Dennis Tesch — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 08:32:56 GMT

OK...now he's gone to far. If I see that friggin "Amy Van Dyken" inhaler on the blocks before any of our races I'm going to sit my big fat 240 lb ass down on it and that wil be the end of this BS! Meowwww It is now 20 years since I swam my last college meet and I just figured out why I missed my NCAA cut by 4 hundreths of second..... I didn't have my friggin "Amy Van Dyken" inhaler. I'm kind of thinking those inhalers where high altitudes "LZR" of the 80's.... I'm talking to my doctor tomorrow. :drown:

RE: John Smith is a cheater

BillS — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:20:18 GMT

My money's on John -- "The quiet(er) Smith."

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Paul Smith — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 05:19:36 GMT

OK...now he's gone to far. It's allergy season and his "Wussyness" has a little sniffle, ach, ach. So...go to the doctor and get the extra powerful inhaler treatment, take a day off work, get a massage....and whine about it all. Pathetic. If I see that friggin "Amy Van Dyken" inhaler on the blocks before any of our races I'm going to sit my big fat 240 lb ass down on it and that wil be the end of this BS! Meowwww

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Former Member — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 05:28:04 GMT

"I've read the documentation, sat in on Championship Committee meetings at Convention, and personally tested various levels of the two in chemistry combinations and they are NOT of concern. In fact, I believe the majority of committee members are "users" as well as John. Based on this particular claim, I do not agree that John is a "cheater" since, if that is true, then most of the committee members would be cheaters as well. The other claims, however, well, sorry John, they may hold some validity" Jim, most of us are hooked on coffee and caffine, and for me naprosyn. It's just John used enough caffine to get ten normal swimmers going.

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Former Member — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:44:59 GMT

Paul, It should be clear to all by now why you are known as "the evil one". John Smith

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Chris Stevenson — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 01:05:54 GMT

The truth revealed........here is John at his other job!!!!!! Those commercials (from the pictures) always crack me up.

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Former Member — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 07:41:13 GMT

The truth revealed........here is John at his other job!!!!!!

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Former Member — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 07:23:11 GMT

Let's stop calling John a whining cheater. He's just a bit out of sorts because he discovered recently that the tattoo on his back is actually a cow rather than a longhorn. Now, people have been accusing him of swimming for Texas A & M rather than UT. Have a heart everyone!

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Paul Smith — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 02:29:05 GMT

If any of you have any doubts about my claims about Mr. Smith just go to the LZR thread and see his rantings about the new LZR....the same suit he has been pestering one of the swimmers from texas to let him borrow for masters nationals....he'll do ANYTHING to get that 50 record!

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Former Member — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:08:31 GMT

Dished by a fellow Longhorn.

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Former Member — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:42:26 GMT

This is scandalous... It is no surprise to see John is being lauded by some of the very same people who have advised me to take steroids!! OK well, steroids for back spasm...but still...

RE: John Smith is a cheater

Jeff Commings — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 11:52:43 GMT

I can't back up any of Paul's arguments, but I'm willing to bet John went past vertical on his back-*** turn. He did it years ago when we raced, and I'm sure old habits die hard.

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Jim Clemmons — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 11:51:27 GMT

Well then, I cheat also. I had my hip replaced -TWICE - to get the best one I could! I take pain pills,hi blood pressure pills & aspirn. It still did not make me faster?? Now what? Try arm replacements?

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orca1946 — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 11:32:28 GMT

Well then, I cheat also. I had my hip replaced -TWICE - to get the best one I could! I take pain pills,hi blood pressure pills & aspirn. It still did not make me faster?? Now what?

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Paul Smith — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 10:39:46 GMT

Wait, wait, wait just a minute now. :notworking: Caffeine and "ibuprofen (Advil, Motrin, Nuprin, Medipren) a drug used for the management of mild to moderate pain, fever, and inflammation" are completely acceptable as PEDs for Masters swimmers. I've read the documentation, sat in on Championship Committee meetings at Convention, and personally tested various levels of the two in chemistry combinations and they are NOT of concern. In fact, I believe the majority of committee members are "users" as well as John. Based on this particular claim, I do not agree that John is a "cheater" since, if that is true, then most of the committee members would be cheaters as well. The other claims, however, well, sorry John, they may hold some validity. Jim....not even Gill can approach the level of usage my evil twin has gone to...anything and everything to gain back his most cherished of records. The seething anger he felt the day of his 45th birthday as he realized the 40-44 records will fall to another has emboldened his cheating...even worse his 12 year old son can almost look him in the eye and is close to beating him in the 50/100 fly..he is an angry, angry man!

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Former Member — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 14:13:56 GMT

What the hell ? !

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Former Member — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 13:54:14 GMT

Was there a Fastskin involved? quote] I can only speak for JS he was in legskins only......I hear from a very good source that he will be wearing something new and hard to find in Austin. I hope Paul's contacts are as good or he is going to need a really great taper!!! I'm looking forward to watching a couple of great races....My bet is on Smith.

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Former Member — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 11:21:09 GMT

Paul, you know that John is a very sensitive, shy and retiring fellow; your expose will probably cause him to withdraw completely from forum discussion a la Bezian precedent.

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Jim Clemmons — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 10:57:59 GMT

- John routinely exceeds the allowable limits set down by the championship committee for motrin and caffeine. The caffeine typically in the form of a starbucks double shot 15 minuted before his race and the motrin about 30 minutes after...and every 4 hours for the rest of the week. Wait, wait, wait just a minute now. :notworking: Caffeine and "ibuprofen (Advil, Motrin, Nuprin, Medipren) a drug used for the management of mild to moderate pain, fever, and inflammation" are completely acceptable as PEDs for Masters swimmers. I've read the documentation, sat in on Championship Committee meetings at Convention, and personally tested various levels of the two in chemistry combinations and they are NOT of concern. In fact, I believe the majority of committee members are "users" as well as John. Based on this particular claim, I do not agree that John is a "cheater" since, if that is true, then most of the committee members would be cheaters as well. The other claims, however, well, sorry John, they may hold some validity.

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Former Member — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 10:03:23 GMT

Was there a Fastskin involved? And how the heck do you keep your Starbucks from getting cold during the meet?

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Former Member — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 09:54:57 GMT

"You Coloradans think anything below 5,000 feet is below sea level, don't you?" Back when they were kids--it Was---

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Former Member — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 09:53:35 GMT

John: Paul said your most effective means of birth control was your personality--- The guy is talking some serious smack about you---

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Former Member — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 09:50:40 GMT

Speedy times for both of you. Congrats! As for getting a longhorn tat when you are 40... :rolleyes:

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Former Member — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 09:19:58 GMT

Tall Paul is just banking on the Clydsdale taper to get his revenge. Actually, he's hoping to distract John so that he will miss his heats at Nationals. I hear that Paul has hired the Longhorn cheering squad to be on deck at certain times. I'm certain he was also responsible the last time it happened to John in the 50 Back at Ft Lauderdale.

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Former Member — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 09:10:21 GMT

Someone here is a sore loser! Here are the results from the battle of the Smiths over the last weekend: 100 FR: JS = 47.47; PS = 49.42 50 FR: JS = 21.58; PS = 22.71 Maybe both are on drugs and one just got the dosage wrong and is now whining about it. There are clear issues here that should be resolved. Or, has someone lost all their natural red blood cells because they now live below sea level? By the way, I note that that same someone chickened out of a rematch with Scott Shake in the 200 Back.