2008 NCAA Div I Men's Swimming and Diving Championships

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Former Member — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:59:26 GMT

I must say I am a tiny bit surprised Texas didn't swim a bit better. They supposedly did not rest for the Big12s, one month earlier, which they won handily. Klueh swam very well. And Berens had some good swims. But the freestylers as a whole were merely "fast." I didn't expect another record in the 800 FR - since it was the first night of the Big12s. But they were not "on." Auburn on the other was truly a disappointment and followed the performance of the women a week earlier.

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swimr4life — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 05:39:35 GMT

I'm so proud of my bulldogs....the men were ranked 13th, seeded 11th based on entry times and ended up placing seventh! Going 1-2 in the mile and the 200 fly was such a thrill. Gil Stovall won the 200-yard butterfly with a time of 1:41.33, shattering the 17-year-old NCAA record of 1:41.78 set by Tennessee’s Melvin Stewart. The UGA women did well considering they had 9 freshmen! Hopefully they will get stronger year by year.

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Jeff Commings — Sun, 30 Mar 2008 12:52:28 GMT

In the 200 *** I am picking Scott Span to win and I wonder if he can go under 1:52.50 and be near the American Record. He has dropped his time by 3 seconds and at the Big Ten Championship he went 1:53.17 to break the great school record by Mike Barrowman,which was an American Record for over 10 years. Wow! A three-second drop to go under an amazing record. Impossible. A college sophomore shouldn't be able to go that fast, or drop that much time. He must be on the same stuff Sullivan, Bernard, Trickett and Rice are on. :bolt:

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Former Member — Sun, 30 Mar 2008 11:41:09 GMT

So would it be wise to suspect Cielo of doping along with what is becoming a long list of others? That wasn't the intention of making the comparison... Just a few weeks ago 21.28 seemed impossible... Now another man has already bested the time... hmmm and look, similar technique?! The start has also been changed... Did you see how Sullivan did dolphin kick right to the surface, he didn't start the flutter as usual before breaking through... I wonder how much that counts? Not to mention it was quick dolphin up to the top, not very many SDK's at all.. Now I'll make a consession here, maybe if there was PED involved we wouldn't also see the breakthrough's in technique... just more power... although, that's not what I'm seeing... There really is a difference in the overall technical components of the race.

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Former Member — Sun, 30 Mar 2008 11:06:12 GMT

Whoa... That 18.47 converts to 20.65 SCM, a WR... and a 21.27 LCM, A WR by 1/hundreth... Maybe Sullivan isn't the only man who can... So would it be wise to suspect Cielo of doping along with what is becoming a long list of others? Move over Roger Clemens, swimming needs a congressional hearing just as badly as baseball it seems. ;)

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Former Member — Sun, 30 Mar 2008 10:33:09 GMT

here's cesar's 18.47 relay lead off in lane 3 I love the enthusiasm of the folks around the video camera when they see his time Whoa... That 18.47 converts to 20.65 SCM, a WR... and a 21.27 LCM, A WR by 1/hundreth... Maybe Sullivan isn't the only man who can...

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smontanaro — Sun, 30 Mar 2008 06:17:13 GMT

Since that was the lead-off leg it will count as the new NCAA/Meet/Open record, right? Looking at the splits I was amazed how much faster he swam than his teammates, who all had the advantage of rolling relay starts. In fact, nobody on any of the teams in the finals had a split anywhere close to his leadoff leg (the only other sub-19 legs were about 0.5 second slower). Skip (who is lucky to swim 18 seconds for a 25...)

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ande — Sun, 30 Mar 2008 05:55:31 GMT

here's cesar's 18.47 relay lead off in lane 3 I love the enthusiasm of the folks around the video camera when they see his time if you have a fast connection you can click for HIGHER QUALITY wish the person used a tripod or monopod to improve the camera's stability www.youtube.com/watch

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knelson — Sun, 30 Mar 2008 05:13:36 GMT

Saturday night was very exciting, despite the fact Zona had the meet locked up. The 1650 started things off right with the two Georgia swimmers letting Kleuh of Texas take the early lead then put the hammer down with about 500 yards remaining. I really thought Rouault would break Thompson's record. The 200 fly was great, too. Another 1-2 for Georgia. Cielo's 100 free speaks for itself. I swear that guy must be attached to an invisible stretch cord out there :) I know as a swimmer I'm supposed to hate diving, but I have to say the platform diving was very exciting, too! Then Arizona's anchor managing to gun down the Auburn guy in about the last 5 yards of the relay was a fitting conclusion to the meet. I didn't think there was any way Arizona would win that.

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Jim Clemmons — Sun, 30 Mar 2008 03:50:26 GMT

In the 100 Free, history will be set tonight as Cesar Cielo will be the first man to go under :41.00 and the question is will he win by more than a second. Its been a long time since a barrier has been broken. In 1975, it was Andy Coan going under :44.00, in 1981 it was Rowdy Gaines going under :43.00, and in 1985 it was Matt Biondi going under :42.00, so this is long overdue. Good picking Skip.

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Former Member — Sat, 29 Mar 2008 14:29:50 GMT

Wow at the 800 free relay. Was expecting Texas to win easily. Was happy that Dave Walters won the 200 free. Going into day three, it is looking bleak for my Horns...but Hook 'Em anyways!!!

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That Guy — Sat, 29 Mar 2008 10:16:43 GMT

I don't know what happened here but they went about 6 seconds slower than the 6:10.55 with a 6:16.54 when they set the American and US Open Record. But this was not as bad as the Auburn women in the 800 Free Relay. They went nearly 10 seconds slower than when they set the American and US Open Record. Kirk said it was a complete meltdown. Texas' anchor swimmer gave up on the last 50 and cruised in. He couldn't beat Arizona and was way ahead of third place so he just gave up. If he had finished properly I think Texas would have finished in about 6:13.

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Frank Thompson — Sat, 29 Mar 2008 10:10:12 GMT

Another big question is can the Texas men swim to their potential? They did not swim well last year at NCAAs. But Texas was super-fast at the Big12s. They are the deepest, fastest, group of 200 freestylers anywhere. I don't know what happened here but they went about 6 seconds slower than the 6:10.55 with a 6:16.54 when they set the American and US Open Record. But this was not as bad as the Auburn women in the 800 Free Relay. They went nearly 10 seconds slower than when they set the American and US Open Record. Kirk said it was a complete meltdown.

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Former Member — Sat, 29 Mar 2008 08:45:10 GMT

Texas' anchor swimmer gave up on the last 50 and cruised in. He couldn't beat Arizona and was way ahead of third place so he just gave up. If he had finished properly I think Texas would have finished in about 6:13. There'd be no point for him gunning the whole way Nilo is too fast for Ricky to catch him. He had to swim the next day and the 200 Fly is more important.

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Frank Thompson — Sat, 29 Mar 2008 08:25:32 GMT

I don't think Arizona will get caught and they will win the NCAA title and this will be a sweep of both titles this year. The biggest shock/upset of the day was Ben Hensen not making the final in the 200 Back and missed making 8th place by .01 seconds. I saw the race he had with Patrick Shirk at the Big Ten Championships when he went 1:40.85 to Shirk's 1:40.87. Seeing as how Ben did a :44.72 and being only .12 off Ryan Lochte's record of :44.60, I was going to pick him tonight. Now I going to pick Shirk to give Penn State its first NCAA title. The question is will he go under 1:40 tonight. In the 100 Free, history will be set tonight as Cesar Cielo will be the first man to go under :41.00 and the question is will he win by more than a second. Its been a long time since a barrier has been broken. In 1975, it was Andy Coan going under :44.00, in 1981 it was Rowdy Gaines going under :43.00, and in 1985 it was Matt Biondi going under :42.00, so this is long overdue. In the 200 *** I am picking Scott Span to win and I wonder if he can go under 1:52.50 and be near the American Record. He has dropped his time by 3 seconds and at the Big Ten Championship he went 1:53.17 to break the great school record by Mike Barrowman,which was an American Record for over 10 years. He still has 2 years of college left and he is a swimmer to watch in this event at Olympic Trials. In the 200 Fly, I think the 17 year old NCAA Record of 1:41.78 by Melvin Stewart is going to be broken tonight by a Georgia swimmer. Which one I am not sure. I saw Mark Dylla go a 1:42.23 at the SEC Championships on TV and he looked real good. But his teammate Gil Stoval qualified today with a 1:41.86 so he could win too. I see a 1-2 finish by Georgia in this event. In the 400 Free Relay, its hard to pick against Auburn with sprinters like Cielo and Puninski. The question is can they break there record of 2:46.86

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Jeff Commings — Sat, 29 Mar 2008 07:43:42 GMT

Having swum for Eddie Reese for five years, I know he would not condone "shutting it down" in a final, just because you weren't going to win. I doubt Ricky was thinking of his 200 fly when he cruised the last 50 of the relay. Go all out and give it your best shot, then make sure to have a proper warmdown. The next day will take care of itself (in Eddie's words). And I doubt Eddie let that action go without saying something. I imagine Ricky being grabbed by the elbow and given the Eddie Reese Look.

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Former Member — Sat, 29 Mar 2008 06:27:12 GMT

Skip, I can only speak on the live streaming video, not the live Colorado Timing page. The page you're watching the video on is run by the NCAA folks, so I'm not sure what can be done to make it compatible with Firefox and Macs. I know we were having similar complaints with watching SwimmingWorld.TV on Macs, but I think that problem's fixed. If you're still unable to watch the live feed on your Mac, I'm pretty sure you'll be able to watch the on-demand video we're posting of each race on our website. If not, let me know. It works just fine on Safari for Mac. Don't see the issue of using Safari or Firefox. Swimming World TV uses an application called Flip4mac and it works just fine.

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Jeff Commings — Sat, 29 Mar 2008 02:15:59 GMT

Two problems with the "live" coverage: 1. I'm disappointed in the "live" video on the SW website. It refuses to try to run with Firefox (requiring Safari on Macs) and doesn't work with Safari. 2. The Colorado Time live scoreboard seems to be working better, but I noticed in the 200 medley relay that they gave the split at the first 25 but then didn't display splits at 75/125/175. Clearly they have touchpads at both ends of the pool. What gives? Skip Skip, I can only speak on the live streaming video, not the live Colorado Timing page. The page you're watching the video on is run by the NCAA folks, so I'm not sure what can be done to make it compatible with Firefox and Macs. I know we were having similar complaints with watching SwimmingWorld.TV on Macs, but I think that problem's fixed. If you're still unable to watch the live feed on your Mac, I'm pretty sure you'll be able to watch the on-demand video we're posting of each race on our website. If not, let me know.

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knelson — Sat, 29 Mar 2008 01:36:07 GMT

Having been to finals last night it's pretty clear Arizona is going to run away with this. If Texas even manages to narrow the gap I'd be surprised. Arizona just has all the momentum. Today's events probably favor Texas, but I don't think it's going to matter. Great team effort. Cielo's 50 split of 18.19 was impressive. When Auburn and Arizona dove in even after the fly leg you knew it was all over. Skip: did you see Marcin Unold from Oakland won consols in the 100 back with a 46.55? I'm sure a lot of people out there were going "Oakland? Where the heck is Oakland?" I remember their great sprinter, Hilton Woods, from when I was swimming in college.

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Former Member — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 16:21:58 GMT

Our "live" coverage is about 30 seconds to one minute behind the actual race at www.swimmingworldmagazine.com. For those who have been watching it, I hope you're having as much fun watching it as I am recording it! I noticed that in the 500, I had Colorado Timing up at the same time and I got confused with the difference, but the coverage is great appreciated. I'm super excited for the 4x200 relay tonight.

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Former Member — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:43:25 GMT

Jeff, You're doing a great job with the camera. I appreciate the brief focus on each swimmer pre-race behind the blocks and the scoreboard shot at the end. Rich

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Former Member — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:07:58 GMT

You can do that. In addition to OTA or cable HD programming, my 50" Sony HDTV is quite handy as a glorified HDTV PC monitor. Run an S-video cable and a audio cable from your computer to your HDTV, adjust the monitor setting (usually Alt +F4) and voila. Streaming video from the computer to the HDTV monitor I'd rather watch it on a big screen HD TV than a small computer screen.

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smontanaro — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 10:44:55 GMT

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DanSad — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 10:31:00 GMT

What's the fastest 50 yd free relay split in history? I noticed Cielo went 18.19 in the finals of the 200 medley relay tonight.

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Former Member — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 10:23:46 GMT

The ESPN2 coverage couldn't be any more dreadful. I hope this isn't an indication of what we can expect from NBC in Beijing. They can't show a whole 200? They showed the first 25 of the medley relay and the last about 10 yards. That was horrible, I'm feeling the NBC coverage will be great though. Swimming is one of THE big shows at the games.