Arizona Masters will rule the waves in Austin

RE: Arizona Masters will rule the waves in Austin

Frank Thompson — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:46:58 GMT

Outstanding Challenge: Men's 45-54 age group 200 Medley Relay Anyone mens relay team (45-54) who can beat Arizona Men's Masters 200 Medley Relay at Masters Nationals in Austin....... gets a free Dinner at Chuys mexican restaurant. Good Luck Austin boys..... you'll need it. John Smith Are you extending this offer for any mens relay team (45-54) who can beat Arizona Men's Masters 200 Free Relay at Masters Nationals in Austin.......gets a free Dinner at Chuys mexican restaurant. I am not challenging, just asking at this time.

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knelson — Sat, 05 Apr 2008 01:30:01 GMT

According to the roster Mr. Hering is representing PNA. Can he change at this point? edit: oops, sorry. I was looking at the roster for last year's meet.

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Former Member — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 12:29:03 GMT

You are correct. Mr. Gaines is unable to attend the festivities. The new relay will be.... Back..... John Smith ***..... Glenn Mills Fly..... Brad Hering Free..... Paul Smith The bet is still on.....

RE: Arizona Masters will rule the waves in Austin

Former Member — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 12:09:15 GMT

Oh... please geek. When have I EVER swam for a local team that I worked out with. Masters swimming is about "whoring" yourself out with other teams to swim with your friends. Back - Average John Smith, Denver ***- Glenn Mills, Maryland resident, former Ohio boy and 1980 Olympian Fly - Evil Paul Smith, Phoenix resident Free - Rowdy Gaines, Colo Spgs. resident moving to Florida this summer. Looking at the psych sheets posted today, it appears that one of your relay members forgot to enter... :bolt:

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Former Member — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 07:35:33 GMT

Might be worth taking the bet? Last time I saw you "swim" the 50 back, you missed your heat by showing up at the wrong pool. If your relay is a "no show" or you get DQ'd, is the bet still on? Vegas odds-makers and sabotage agents want to know.

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aquageek — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:49:19 GMT

Damn - you two and your fear of women

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Paul Smith — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:55:05 GMT

We may have to rethink this challenge, U of A women just went 1:37.6 in prelims this morning! :doh: JS, if neither of us can beat Dara's 50/100 times and our medley relay gets cmoked byt the gals...I propose we take up ice fishing.

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Former Member — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 06:25:53 GMT

I never said it was not an option. ;)

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Former Member — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 06:04:19 GMT

SCYfreestyler, Quitting is always a legitimate option in masters swimming. That's the beauty of it.... :-) John Smith

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Former Member — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 05:52:25 GMT

Nobody likes a quitter. :)

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Former Member — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 05:05:50 GMT

If that happens. I quit. John Smith

RE: Arizona Masters will rule the waves in Austin

knelson — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 02:11:15 GMT

Quitting is always a legitimate option in masters swimming. That's the beauty of it.... :-) True. Every practice, set, meet, etc. is strictly optional.

RE: Arizona Masters will rule the waves in Austin

Former Member — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:21:41 GMT

I agree....and the more light that is shown on morons like this the better. Darkness can not hide from the light!!!!!! Shark, you want to get in to opinions....if the guy IS convicted...castration is too easy on people like this!!!

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Former Member — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:08:50 GMT

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Former Member — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:05:31 GMT

And we're hearing about it more these days because (hopefully) we've realized these matters shouldn't just be handled privately. It used to be these pervs probably were quietly "let go" from their current positions and they just moved on to another coaching position where, odds are, they did the same thing again. I'd like to think this kind of thing is relatively uncommon, but the reality is that it's not. I bet most of us who have been involved in swimming most of our lives can think of at least one coach who had, or at least was suspected of, having an inappropriate relationship with a swimmer. That is exactly right...unfortunately.

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Former Member — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:00:55 GMT

Swimstud, Agreed John Smith

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Former Member — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:56:58 GMT

Is it me or does it seem like the sport of swimming has had a few too many male swim coaches over the decades that have ventured into the much younger "pool" of female swimmers too often. John Smith I'd hazard a guess that there is probably no significantly greater % than in other sports. Remember too John we're only hearing about the "complaint" cases.

RE: Arizona Masters will rule the waves in Austin

Former Member — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:51:07 GMT

Is it me or does it seem like the sport of swimming has had a few too many male swim coaches over the decades that have ventured into the much younger "pool" of female swimmers too often. John Smith

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Former Member — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:23:00 GMT

I'd like to think this kind of thing is relatively uncommon, but the reality is that it's not. I bet most of us who have been involved in swimming most of our lives can think of at least one coach who had, or at least was suspected of, having an inappropriate relationship with a swimmer. There is a (former) swim coach here who is currently serving five years in federal prison, plus seven years in state prison...

RE: Arizona Masters will rule the waves in Austin

Former Member — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:22:18 GMT

Shark, I suggest you know a little more about who you are speaking to before you launch in to your opinionated reply. I grew up in Akron, Ohio and in the late 1970s swam for Firestone, High School. My coach was removed from his position for exactly the same type of situation with an underaged female swimmer in the mid 1980s. I am well aware of Ohio High School swimming. I was a product of it and still proud of it. John Smith

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Former Member — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:11:26 GMT

Ohio has some of the best High School Swimming in the nation. See the results of the Ohio High School State Swimming Meet at the following address: www.swimmeet.com/.../ As for the last post, GoodSmith, you are an %$#hole for putting that on this site. Goodbye.

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Former Member — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:59:25 GMT

Columbus high school swimming appears to have the best and the worst . UPPER ARLINGTON, Ohio -- The Upper Arlington swimming coach was arrested and charged with raping and sexually assaulting a 15-year-old girl. www.nbc4i.com/.../news.apx.-content-articles-CMH-2008-02-26-0035.html

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Former Member — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:19:12 GMT

This team was from New Albany (columbus area). David Wharton is the Head Coach of New Albany High School. His club team is developed now and is producing some good times. It does look like he has some team members from all over the Columbus area. McNamee is from across C-town in Dublin. I had a conversation with Dave recently about his training days with Schoulberg. Some amazing stuff.

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aquageek — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:33:01 GMT

Certainly does not look good for the Upper Arlington coach. However, that being said, remember he has only been arrested and charged. To my knowledge he has not been convicted yet. I will give him his day in court first. That being said Shark, it is public knowledge about his arrest and whether you like or dislike info was posted on here, I believe it is freedom of the press and speech. Screw that! How many of these cases aren't true? If there is even a hint of something amiss, especially between an adult coach and a child, he should be hung out to dry, and then beaten. You think this guy will go to trial? No way on that, juries don't like the kiddie molestors.

RE: Arizona Masters will rule the waves in Austin

knelson — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:02:12 GMT