<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?>
<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://community.usms.org/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Shooter Sets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/swimming/f/general/6031/shooter-sets</link><description>After a largely successful meet this weekend (PB in 200 back by 3 seconds) my coach admonished me for a largely ineffective SDK. Seems as though I don&amp;#39;t engage my core enough, am kicking more from the knee than the torso. He has suggested strongly (shall</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 12</generator><item><title>RE: Shooter Sets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/82675?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:06:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:13d9c9e7-f0e2-4c75-9c7c-454ba26fd1b5</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I have a great shooter set.
 
After 10 - 100s I swim up to the poolside bar and start drinking tequilla followed by a beer.
 
And if you had that drink after each of the ten 100s, would that be &amp;quot;interval&amp;quot; training?&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Shooter Sets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/82749?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 07:29:08 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:e39bb9b2-faea-4b35-82b7-9509b972afce</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>And if you had that drink after each of the ten 100s, would that be &amp;quot;interval&amp;quot; training?

What a good idea, I would be shot from all the shots.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Shooter Sets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/82807?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 05:46:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:56bfd2a1-f13f-4bd2-910c-ad7b1532a34b</guid><dc:creator>orca1946</dc:creator><description>I&amp;#39;ll add these to Sunays workout &amp;amp; see if I get dizzy!&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Shooter Sets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/82611?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:26:24 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:7e1a0212-d70b-40d2-ab16-00a06ab1802c</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I have a great shooter set.

After 10 - 100s I swim up to the poolside bar and start drinking tequilla followed by a beer.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Shooter Sets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/82537?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 14:43:43 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:167b487b-638a-46e9-a0b7-79808e07b9f7</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>&amp;quot;something I can work on by myself,&amp;quot; would be better for arms than for core.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Shooter Sets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/82595?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 10:48:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:77210a07-2276-46e9-b8bf-32145ee26791</guid><dc:creator>The Fortress</dc:creator><description>8 x 100 IM kick.  Dolphin kick and breaststroke kick underwater.  Going to try this today.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Shooter Sets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/82437?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:15:52 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:20bb0f56-12c7-44d0-9915-7d1228d8b2cf</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Coaches are great.  Another example:

My coach noticed today that while doing shooters with fins, I was still working harder from the legs and not enough from the torso.  He advised shooters WITHOUT fins.  This will be  harder, of course, but I&amp;#39;m sure with fins on I was just cranking my lower legs.  

He also suggested the following.  6X25, repeat as often as you want.  First 2 easy swim, approx :30.  Then next 4 shooters on shortest sustainable interval.  Use 2 easy 25s as active recovery. 
I did 2 sets, doing the shooters without fins on :40.  Made &amp;#39;em, could go faster.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Shooter Sets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/82522?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:40:25 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:f9f4ccf9-872e-47d9-adcf-69a3993a240e</guid><dc:creator>BillS</dc:creator><description>Given the evident similarities, can&amp;#39;t I just have sex instead?  Is there a conversion table available, or is it a straight 1 to 1 conversion?  I&amp;#39;m 47, so given my years of experience, what interval should I go on?  Do I have to hold my breath to gain the same benefit?  Is there extra credit for sex under water?  Should I wear Zoomers, a monofin, snorkel, Lycra, or all of the above?  Do I have to stay in my lane the whole time?  Is this something I can work on by myself, or should I get some coaching?&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Shooter Sets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/82178?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 16:37:32 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:585d5599-760e-49ea-83de-fae6e973792d</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>one of the tips that I tell swimmers when they need to engage the abs in SDK (and I&amp;#39;m very careful to whom I suggest this) - is that you need to *think* about having s*x. It&amp;#39;s the same motion. 
Also - 
You need to put your chin down - allow the kick to start in the shoulders then roll through your body.
 
Thinking about s*x and wearing lycra...yeah...I dunno about that...it might ruin the streamline!
:rofl:&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Shooter Sets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/82334?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 13:32:25 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:d10a5adc-d5da-4abf-8935-51f0a40fe9a6</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>eww 
TMI
haha 
 
...more like the average male swimmer&amp;#39;s nightmare...&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Shooter Sets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/82117?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 12:16:53 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:24e5cd29-a011-46d2-940d-a08a1b2a06ca</guid><dc:creator>Muppet</dc:creator><description>one of the tips that I tell swimmers when they need to engage the abs in SDK (and I&amp;#39;m very careful to whom I suggest this) - is that you need to *think* about having s*x.  It&amp;#39;s the same motion.  


Motion of the ocean, baby!:banana::banana:&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Shooter Sets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/82141?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 10:48:40 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:b198d4e8-966e-4528-8d5f-f6b635b87137</guid><dc:creator>ande</dc:creator><description>do shooters till your legs are shot

i&amp;#39;d think a work to rest ratio of 
1 to 1 up to 1 to 3 or 4 would be good 
ie 25&amp;#39;s on 30 kick 15 seconds rest 15 seconds 
up to 25&amp;#39;s on 1:00&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Shooter Sets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/82313?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 03:18:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:085dd884-6b02-4300-b4cb-7f278837a7c3</guid><dc:creator>ande</dc:creator><description>eww 
TMI 

Thinking about s*x and wearing lycra...yeah...I dunno about that...it might ruin the streamline!
:rofl:&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Shooter Sets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/82289?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 01:22:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:7ea2fbfb-5914-46c9-8f26-897e8a8ace22</guid><dc:creator>The Fortress</dc:creator><description>Motion of the ocean, baby!:banana::banana:

We are so multi-talented.   :rofl:

ande&amp;#39;s times sound about right.  Depending on what I&amp;#39;m working on, I do them on 30 seconds to a minute.  One minute is a lot of rest, so you have to do them AFAP.  I need more rest if I&amp;#39;m doing them without fins.

I think the most I&amp;#39;ve done in a row is 20.  But I can see where you could do more.  Not going to do more on a :30 second interval though.  (Well, ande could, but we are human.)  

Do them with and without fins.  I don&amp;#39;t think zoomers are a good swim toy to use for shooters though.  I would do them either with long fins or a monofin.  Then you&amp;#39;re working more on streamlining.

I also think it&amp;#39;s useful to do four point shooters on your back, left side, right side, and tummy.  I also love the underwater fly spin drill.  It&amp;#39;s all underwater, but not at top speed because you&amp;#39;re focusing on form.  Push off and do 2 dolphin kicks on stomach, 2 on right side, 2 on back, 2 on left side and repeat until you get to the other end.  Very fun drill.  Guaranteed to make you feel like a merman!

You can also mix shooters with fast 25s.  Today, my team did 20 x 25 with fins on :30, done as 2 UW shooters, 2 fast swims, 1 easy swim x4.  On :30 this was a challenge.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Shooter Sets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/81742?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 13:21:37 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:b84176dd-d06d-4eb9-99d1-8374c126b8ba</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>What&amp;#39;s a shooter set?  Based on the op&amp;#39;s name, I originally thought some sort of drinking game....  :rofl:

Sorry for the confusion.  Shooters as I know them are done completely underwater using kick only.  I do these in either a 25 yard or 25 meter pool.  

Despite my avatar, I&amp;#39;m not in to punishing myself with alcohol.  If I could be called a wimp, its for the fact that after a few beers or glasses of wine I tend to fall asleep.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Shooter Sets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/81727?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 12:14:17 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:0e0e5425-acda-4b28-9869-f8bacd9bbdbb</guid><dc:creator>aztimm</dc:creator><description>What&amp;#39;s a shooter set?  Based on the op&amp;#39;s name, I originally thought some sort of drinking game....&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Shooter Sets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/82027?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 10:21:04 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:31bef654-b96e-42d4-8fbb-80c5d702ffad</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>We do some dry land exercises which include something called &amp;quot;bridge&amp;quot; which basically is lifting your butt off the ground with your legs bent at the knees using your lower back for impulsion and forearms for balance. It looks funny, and would seem to a non athlete as a simulation of sorts of s*x. This is done by the master&amp;#39;s team with our coach. Heck, if you look at a Pilates or other exercise classes in adult gyms you&amp;#39;ll see plenty of pelvic action. This is Brazil, less rigid or tight about sex. So what is being proven here is that swimming might improve your s*x life?&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Shooter Sets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/81909?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 09:01:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:9127fc6c-43ca-4802-9c20-70bc66b95802</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>one of the tips that I tell swimmers when they need to engage the abs in SDK (and I&amp;#39;m very careful to whom I suggest this) - is that you need to *think* about having s*x. It&amp;#39;s the same motion. 
Also - 
You need to put your chin down .
 
 
Well............... On second thoughts, I&amp;#39;d better not.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Shooter Sets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/81826?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 08:54:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:41b5692c-c544-4026-957f-3db2546ada80</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>one of the tips that I tell swimmers when they need to engage the abs in SDK (and I&amp;#39;m very careful to whom I suggest this) - is that you need to *think* about having s*x.  It&amp;#39;s the same motion.  
Also - 
You need to put your chin down - allow the kick to start in the shoulders then roll through your body.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Shooter Sets</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/81712?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:39:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:d412d503-7037-40c8-b045-2df1c4677593</guid><dc:creator>Muppet</dc:creator><description>Congrats on your PB!!!

As for the shooters, gotta start somewhere, eh?  Your son may question your manhood but remember, he&amp;#39;s a few years younger.  When the verbal abuse gets particularly bad, shave a few seconds off that interval every once in a while.  It can&amp;#39;t hurt to challenge yourself.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>