Watch me swim?

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Former Member — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 09:32:55 GMT

I'll leave the technical stuff to the others but I think another 5 yards and you win that race...think you can dig any deeper on the last 50? I agree with Rich. You ate that girls lunch between the walls. Every ,length you out swam her by half a body length and lost it on the walls. I have no clue how to fix it, but I'm sure with practice you'll take her next time.

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Former Member — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:02:19 GMT

Well you don't have to convert me--I came to college as a flyer. My coach has just choosen to utilize me with boring freestyle-same events every meet for my entire college career. Fun.

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Former Member — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:51:02 GMT

Well, I actually really don't do much fly at all in practice--because he never puts me in anything but freestyle--swimming that medley relay was only the 2nd time all season I've swam butterfly at a meet. I suppose if he decides to put me in the 100fly at championships I oughta start practicing it a bit more. I just would like to swim it in a meet beforehand for the seed times. At our championship meet having a fast seed time is such a huge deal for staying out of wall lanes, and getting in a heat thats gonna push you. but we'll see Morgan, my take on all this is that your fly looks good. I think you've got a shot at a solid 100 with the right attitude going in. :groovy:I swam 25s and a few 50s fly in practice as a kid (and as an adult!) I almost never did 100 flys in practice. But I hit :58 pretty quickly in the 100 as a kid. As an adult I'll hit 1:00 (after swimming 3 to 4 events prior to it). The key was to swim a moderate amount of fly in practice but with perfect form (never breaking down). I also like free/ fly and drill fly. And I just had a plan (worked out with my coach) as to how to swim the 100 fly in a meet. Do a 100 for time in practice a couple of times. Forget about whether or not you get a wall lane. Mark Stephens won senior nationals in the 400 IM from A WALL LANE (lane 1) in 2004. And hey, I'm not near SR Nats, but I did win my heat in the 1000 free from lane 1 at the USA-S meet I did a couple of weeks ago. And it was my first time swimming it. For the first time, I'm learning that it's not a great idea to rely on someone else (my competition) to insure I have a good race. I'm struggling now with relying on me to push myself. It's a great skill to learn. Sometimes it helps me to try and get as far as I can in front of my competition even if it's a "slow" heat. But it's best when I have my plan and the confidence to execute it regardless of the competition. Basically, I'm just trying to say that with a little mental preparation and planning in practice, it is VERY possible to swim an event for the first time (ever or that season) and have a GREAT swim! In looking at your 50 fly, I feel you could have a very good 100. You go girl! i.e., see your signature. :cheerleader::cheerleader: Obviously you see through my motive which is to convert you to what I love best - fly! :D A good freestyler makes a good butterfly swimmer. George, amen! Free and fly rule. I train both and each helps the other. IM helps my fly and free. Nothing seems to really help my IM however. :lmao:

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Former Member — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 14:58:19 GMT

how come? I mean I don't disagree, but fundamentally they don't have to be very similar--for instance--I don't sdk on my freestyle, ever. A good freestyler makes a good butterfly swimmer.

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Former Member — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 14:48:51 GMT

A good freestyler makes a good butterfly swimmer.

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Former Member — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 14:46:44 GMT

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Muppet — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 09:42:15 GMT

Thank you:wave:! Now I just wish he would let me swim the 100fly once in a while, since he thinks I might be swimming it at championships and have only swam it in competition once this entire season. Gotta love that. Ahh, don't worry about it... you've swum it enough, including in practice, to know what you're doing. I swam the 200 fly once last season before zones (and only 2 or 3 times EVER before that), and though my splits were not the kind you'd like to see (1:00.8, 1:10.4), the end time was a pretty big time drop.

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Former Member — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 09:04:22 GMT

Thank you for posting the videos. The fly is a dream.:agree: Regards, VB Thank you:wave:! Now I just wish he would let me swim the 100fly once in a while, since he thinks I might be swimming it at championships and have only swam it in competition once this entire season. Gotta love that.

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Former Member — Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:41:53 GMT

I don't think you can do it on youtube but probably whatever software you are using to load it from the camera to your computer can split it for you. Windows Movie Maker, which comes free with Windows can split a video for you, just pause it in the preview window where you want to split and use the button to the lower right under the video preview, the one next to the "Take a Picture" button. For maximum simplicity, just use whatever method you currently use to save video to your computer to save the first half of the race and then again to save the second half. I hope that makes sense!

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Former Member — Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:26:18 GMT

Hey! How do I split the video? I'm brand new to youtube--i got my videocamera for christmas:-) Split it into two, youtube videos are limited to 10min. Great fly!

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Former Member — Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:23:07 GMT

They won't let my upload the 1000 video because its too big I guess? Split it into two, youtube videos are limited to 10min. Great fly!

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Former Member — Sun, 20 Jan 2008 13:24:26 GMT

That was a great 50 fly. Very smooth. Ditto. Loved watching it. You're a flyer too.

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Former Member — Sun, 20 Jan 2008 12:57:22 GMT

That was a great 50 fly. Very smooth. hey-thanks! I was actually surprised when I saw the video that it did look that smooth--we had had practice that morning, then warm up, then they did diving before the meet started. So when I dove in and took my first stroke I was like: "oh man, this hurts!" I had gotten very tight during that 30-40minute break for diving. I'm just glad it looked good and strong considering.

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Former Member — Sun, 20 Jan 2008 12:35:52 GMT

That was a great 50 fly. Very smooth.

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Former Member — Sun, 20 Jan 2008 12:30:52 GMT

www.youtube.com/watch Had a meet yesterday (Saturday 1/19/08) against St. Michaels college. They're a small team--we won very easily. I swam the fly in the 200 medley relay (see link above--we're in lane 3 I believe--whichever lane is winning). I split a 29. on it, which wasn't great but I was trying to hold off because I was in the 1000 right afterwards. They won't let my upload the 1000 video because its too big I guess? I'm trying it again--because while the time wasn't anything spectacular I think it shows my stroke pretty good and I did work my turns on that event and it felt much better than my 200and 500 from the week earlier. It was my first time swimming the 1000ever, and I went a 11:28.86 with no competition really. I also swam the 200free relay lead off--but I was on the B relay for whatever reason, went a 27.2...not very good but, eh. Had another meet today. (Sunday 1/20/08) against Bentley College. They're much better than us, and pretty much killed us. I got 2nd in the 200freestyle in a 2:05 something and 2nd in the 500 in a 5:34. I also swam the 100 freestyle which I got either 3rd or 4th in, I was very upset about that swim because I did a 59.11, which is over a 2second increase from the times I should be doing. Oh well, we were dead today--no one swam very well from our team...we're beat. I might upload those videos later as well, its a crappy spectator area so my mom who was taping was pretty far away from the pool today.

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ViveBene — Sun, 20 Jan 2008 10:38:11 GMT

Thank you for posting the videos. The fly is a dream.:agree: Regards, VB

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Former Member — Sun, 20 Jan 2008 08:17:03 GMT

on ur start, your hand go over your head and kind of arc into the water. They are supposed to be going from under to give you upwards momentum. You actually swim faster than the other chick, but you were getting raped on the turns. She came out half a body length in front off of every turn.

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Former Member — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 13:38:30 GMT

You might want to consider working on your power off the wall, in addition to technique things everyone else has mentioned. One thing I have been trying to do lately is to concentrate on pushing really hard off the wall on every turn, regardless of the pace. This can make those junk yardage workouts worthwhile. Swim into the wall, turn, push for all your are worth and then SDK and streamline out. Spending a small amount time in the gym working the quads, running stairs or hills would also help give you more power off the wall. Good luck this weekend!

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Former Member — Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:17:01 GMT

It would be better if we had some better clips of your swimming say a side view, and head on view so we can really watch your stroke. Both those clips are too far away. When I downloaded to analyse your stroke it was pretty well blurred. We have another 2 meets this weekend..so I will hopefully have a chance to showcase some of these hints I have been trying to incorporate into my practicing. Unfortunatly, I am in a situation where our practices are a lot of swim swim swim and not a lot of guidance or review of what we are doing right or wrong or how we could improve or push ourselves farther. I have been working primarily on my turns this week and trying to breathe a little lower to the water--but I am not sure I know exactly what I am doing in terms of head position in general. Thanks again!

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Former Member — Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:09:29 GMT

We have another 2 meets this weekend..so I will hopefully have a chance to showcase some of these hints I have been trying to incorporate into my practicing. Unfortunatly, I am in a situation where our practices are a lot of swim swim swim and not a lot of guidance or review of what we are doing right or wrong or how we could improve or push ourselves farther. I have been working primarily on my turns this week and trying to breathe a little lower to the water--but I am not sure I know exactly what I am doing in terms of head position in general. Thanks again!

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Former Member — Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:39:13 GMT

Good race! You out swam your competition, and that's impressive. Many have said to work on your turns, but specificly how should you do that? I recommend first to keep doing what you're doing well. Swimming strong, not giving up, these are good qualities. It was also good to hear the chearing in the stands from the video, the emotion was there, for sure. So the turns... This takes more practice... A good turn isn't too tight to the wall, ultimately covering a farther distance. You want to be flipped and in a nearly-full extension in the other direction before your feet touch the wall. So the actual turn happens a little sooner and the forward motion keeps your body moving to the wall. One trick to do this is initiating the turn a little deeper with your head and torso, this gives you more leverage to flip your legs over, and allows your body to cover more distance. The other part is to land on the wall with your legs a little more extended, think about a basketball shot, you don't bend your knees all the way before jumping, does that make sense? At maximum a 90 degree bend, but a little more extended is okay, that way you cut the distance of the pool. Happy swimming,

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Former Member — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 13:41:05 GMT

You had a cheerleader taking the film. You held in well. I still like to see the kick in the water in longer events. Did I notice when the hands exited you did not exit cleanly? Was the finish short on most strokes? Slapping the water with the hand on the entry? Did I see wind milling? Your head slightly high? Do you need more streamline coming off the turns?

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Muppet — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 11:24:50 GMT

Morgan, with your 500, no worries - that situation happens to me all the time. We call it getting "EB'd." A teammate, we call him Ellis, spends most of a 500 1-2-3 bodylengths behind me, then starts coming on strong ~350-400 and ends up passing me on the last 50. After this happened several times, I become Ellis' *Bizzatch*, and thereon, we refer to the situation as being EB'd ;). I won't :dedhorse: about your turns, but it is a great (motivational) example of how important turns are in these events. Meters, esp. long course, you have that girl! Question for you - left arm... does that arm tend to cross over toward your center axis when you breathe? Its hard to tell from the distance, but when you breathe to the right, it looks like your body started to twist a bit toward your right side - which would be caused by a hand out of position underwater. If that is happening, correcting that could be a great source of time!

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Former Member — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 10:20:09 GMT

I just uploaded my 500 swim too. www.youtube.com/watch If you watch it, don't get too excited when you see that I am out front by a little bit for the first few lengths...it doesn't last. :doh: In my defense...I didn't slow down...she sped up. It's the same girl from the 200freestyle. I am in the same lane as before-lane 3.

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pwolf66 — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 08:49:49 GMT

As was mentioned before, work your turns. You should be coming up at or past the solid section of the lane markers and instead you are cmoing up about half a body length behind. But you did a great job of consistent turns, you came up in the same place every time. Now just work on pushing off just a little harder and holding a tighter streamline off the wall. Compare your breakouts with the girl in lane 4 and you will see what I mean, she was breaking out about 2-3 feet farther out than you and that was really the difference on each lap. A good race over all, you held a solid pace thruout. Paul