The Jazz Hands training log, an alternative swimming experience

RE: The Jazz Hands training log, an alternative swimming experience

Former Member — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:05:18 GMT

I was banned for two weeks. That's all I'm going to say about that. The meet in Anacortes went quite well. I met Kirk and David and talked to each of them for a little bit. Very nice guys. David had some personal best times, I believe. I saw him swim the 500 free in the lane next to one of my teammates. I'm still waiting for PNA to post the official splits, but my teammates got some splits with a stopwatch. 200 free 25.56 54.10 1:24.47 1:55.90 50 free 10.74 22.26 100 free 24.25 50.76 The 200 was a bit disappointing. I watched a video of it and I was swerving big time at the end. I went out very fast on the first 50, and then I realized I couldn't hold that pace so I eased up for the rest of it. The 50 was sweet, considering I didn't shave or wear a special suit. I jammed my finger pretty hard at the end of it, though. The 100 was okay, but I took it out way too slow. I was probably just tired from my first two events. Based on that meet, I definitely don't want to race the 200 anymore. I think there's potential in my 100, but I'm not really sure I enjoy that event. My 100 has never been very good, and it never really feels like my event in the same way that the 50 does. I'm used to not keeping a training log now, and I don't really want to restart it. I might do it again closer to Nationals. People know how I train now; the mystery is gone, and the purpose of my training log has been fulfilled.

RE: The Jazz Hands training log, an alternative swimming experience

Former Member — Thu, 17 Jan 2008 08:22:34 GMT

What happened to the daily updates? You have a meet this weekend, no?

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Former Member — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:53:31 GMT

Curious question: How and when do you adjust your weightlifting prior to meets if at all? BR Per For Nationals, I want to stop lifting probably around two weeks out. For a smaller meet like the one this Saturday, I'll just change my schedule to give myself a little extra rest. I lifted lower body on Sunday. I might do upper body tonight and then no lifting until the meet. That way, my lifting schedule doesn't really get interrupted, but I also get enough rest so that I'm not sore on meet day.

RE: The Jazz Hands training log, an alternative swimming experience

Former Member — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:29:51 GMT

Curious question: How and when do you adjust your weightlifting prior to meets if at all? BR Per

RE: The Jazz Hands training log, an alternative swimming experience

Former Member — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 15:31:40 GMT

Monday, January 14, 2008 Swimming 600 free 200 free (2:00) 6x25 easy back flutter 50 free nb (24) 4x25 easy back flutter 100 free bes (53)

RE: The Jazz Hands training log, an alternative swimming experience

Former Member — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 13:29:31 GMT

Sunday, January 13, 2008 Weights Cable pull-throughs 100x16 110x12 120x12 130x12 140x14 Leg press alternating negatives 160x9 175x9 190x9 205x9 Wide box squats 225x10 245x8 275x4 285x1 Calf press alternating negatives 170x12

RE: The Jazz Hands training log, an alternative swimming experience

Former Member — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:04:49 GMT

I was taking notes on my workouts since I got back from Missouri, and it seems like I have a little pattern going: friday - swim 200 pace saturday - off sunday - upper body weights monday - swim sprint tuesday - lower body weights wednesday - swim 200 pace thursday - off friday - upper body weights saturday - swim sprint That's a five day cycle of alternating swim days with weight days, with one day of rest. Within the four workout days, upper body lifting alternates with lower body, and 200 pace swimming alternates with sprint swimming. Just something interesting to take note of. I wasn't trying too hard to schedule my workouts, and this pattern just happened. It shows that you don't have to fit your workout schedule into a seven day week if something else makes more sense.

RE: The Jazz Hands training log, an alternative swimming experience

Former Member — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 07:26:55 GMT

Saturday, January 12, 2008 Swimming 200 easy free 100 free bes (56) 3x25 free bes (13, 12, 13) 2x50 free nb w/fins (22, 22) Some days when my times are slow I'm just relaxing. Other days I'm trying as hard as I can and I'm extremely pissed off. I'll leave it to you to figure out what this was.

RE: The Jazz Hands training log, an alternative swimming experience

Former Member — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:09:03 GMT

Friday, January 11, 2008 Weights Dumbbell bench press: 80x12 Chin-ups: 9 Dumbbell bench press: 90x10 Chin-ups: 12 Yates rows: 205x8, 225x5

RE: The Jazz Hands training log, an alternative swimming experience

Former Member — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 07:50:37 GMT

Yes, I swim short course yards.

RE: The Jazz Hands training log, an alternative swimming experience

Former Member — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 06:26:40 GMT

Wednesday, January 9, 2008 Swimming 600 easy free 200 free (2:06, about even split) 4x50 easy free 4x50 free @ 2:00 (28, 27, 27, 27) 2x200 easy free 2x100 free @ 2:00 (57, 58) Hey Brian, If you're posting a blog for everyone to see, you should at least indicate what pool you're using... I'm assuming these times were done in a Short course yards pool... so that's about what, 1:03.5 for the 100m?

RE: The Jazz Hands training log, an alternative swimming experience

Former Member — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 16:18:49 GMT

Or take your best times at an equal age and handicap yourselves the difference to date...then go swim... HAHA

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Former Member — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 16:14:05 GMT

Good idea, and maybe there is a way to calculate the age differential, possibly using a graph based on WR swims... Or take your best times at an equal age and handicap yourselves the difference to date...then go swim...

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Former Member — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 16:10:04 GMT

Why not have a virtual race? Pick an event and meets where you both will be swimming that event in. It's the basis for forum grudge races. Paul Good idea, and maybe there is a way to calculate the age differential, possibly using a graph based on WR swims...

RE: The Jazz Hands training log, an alternative swimming experience

Former Member — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 16:08:55 GMT

Why not have a virtual race? Pick an event and meets where you both will be swimming that event in. It's the basis for forum grudge races. Paul Yeah Pony up!

RE: The Jazz Hands training log, an alternative swimming experience

Former Member — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 16:02:27 GMT

Wednesday, January 9, 2008 Swimming 600 easy free 200 free (2:06, about even split) 4x50 easy free 4x50 free @ 2:00 (28, 27, 27, 27) 2x200 easy free 2x100 free @ 2:00 (57, 58)

RE: The Jazz Hands training log, an alternative swimming experience

Former Member — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:56:33 GMT

Monday, January 7, 2008 Swimming My 100 speed is way ahead of schedule. There must have been some good carryover from my 200 workout on Friday. Brian, I'm looking forward to racing you in a 100M event, one day.

RE: The Jazz Hands training log, an alternative swimming experience

Former Member — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:27:12 GMT

I believe using fins has value for water feel, as JH states. However, I would suggest this also has a downside in that you kick much differently with fins, stroke much differently and certainly hold your body in a different position. I can go roughly the same time in a 50 with fins from a push as I can with a meet 50 and it is a totally different experience. Of course, comparing a practice time to a meet time is relatively pointless and dissimilar. I also had to give up fins about 7 years ago due to an addiction. They have 12 step programs for everything these days, don't they?

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knelson — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 12:21:24 GMT

Good idea, and maybe there is a way to calculate the age differential, possibly using a graph based on WR swims... Why would you need to use an age differential? Do it straight up.

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Chris Stevenson — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 11:29:52 GMT

Good idea, and maybe there is a way to calculate the age differential, possibly using a graph based on WR swims... Yes. Go to www.vaswim.org/.../rcalc.cgi to do exactly that. Chris

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pwolf66 — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 11:07:07 GMT

Why not have a virtual race? Pick an event and meets where you both will be swimming that event in. It's the basis for forum grudge races. Paul

RE: The Jazz Hands training log, an alternative swimming experience

rtodd — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 10:36:21 GMT

See the latest installment of FlowSwimming? You may find interesting. I think it reinforces your way of thinking. www.flocasts.org/.../archive.php

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aquageek — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 09:28:02 GMT

RE: The Jazz Hands training log, an alternative swimming experience

pwolf66 — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 03:49:39 GMT

Yes. Go to www.vaswim.org/.../rcalc.cgi to do exactly that. Chris Hmm, so a 23.5 50y Free at 41 is equal to a 22.97 for 25 yo and a 24.20 for a 51yo? Hmm. Paul

RE: The Jazz Hands training log, an alternative swimming experience

pwolf66 — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 03:46:11 GMT

Why would you need to use an age differential? Do it straight up. God, if that was a requirement for grudge races, then Fortress would have CRUSHED me in ours instead of just beating me. Paul