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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://community.usms.org/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>What suit do you train in?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/swimming/f/general/5790/what-suit-do-you-train-in</link><description>I train in Speedo briefs but find that after about 2 to 3 months they start to get threadbare. Have considered buying a size up so that there won&amp;#39;t be so much tension on the fabric and, therefore, hopefully won&amp;#39;t deteriorate so quickly. What does everyone</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 12</generator><item><title>RE: What suit do you train in?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/79565?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:45:33 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:0015bcb1-a2be-431d-a903-0b5eacde4cc7</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Can you race in an Endurance suit or is that only for training?
 From what I know you can race in whatever you want really, except maybe a big bird costume.. but yeah.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What suit do you train in?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/79473?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:00:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:fe48b822-5342-4b84-b745-2bba20f7826d</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Can you race in an Endurance suit or is that only for training?&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What suit do you train in?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/79188?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:56:59 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:d0956209-710e-499e-a40e-7e6e258e0a53</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I wore my Endurance for about 10  months until the crotch seam popped (I discovered this as I was &amp;quot;hitching&amp;quot; prior to going into the pool). I didn&amp;#39;t have another pair with me so I went into the pool with just a thin gusset between me and general public. 
 
Thankfully there were no young kids there, and I figured if anyone else got a peek they were trying to see...
 
Now I&amp;#39;m down to a Lycra Jammer and Brief which I use to compete...so I&amp;#39;m hoping Santa will drop another Endurance in my stocking this year.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What suit do you train in?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/79077?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:55:33 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:15197496-29b5-4fff-80ae-c89c613d0b4d</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Jayhawk likes to pretend that she doesn&amp;#39;t know where I swim, but I constantly catch her looking all the time ;)&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What suit do you train in?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/78975?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:47:14 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:983b3bf1-9b88-4456-b219-e7ef74fa49d3</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I train naked. Saves money and I don&amp;#39;t have to use the spinner. I also air dry only. It sucks in the winter, but also saves a lot of space in my bag. Also, the ladies love it.

Where do you swim?  :)&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What suit do you train in?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/78852?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:32:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:128ba9d0-78a1-45db-a600-4f3a01232be4</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I train naked. Saves money and I don&amp;#39;t have to use the spinner. I also air dry only. It sucks in the winter, but also saves a lot of space in my bag. Also, the ladies love it.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What suit do you train in?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/78958?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:45:37 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:add50217-6afb-4692-a06d-5b13e7429b41</guid><dc:creator>pdjang</dc:creator><description>I train in surfer shorts. Cheap, lasts forever, lots of drag. I don&amp;#39;t have a lot of pool time; swimming in a hyper-drag suit increases my energy output (calorie consumption). Quality work is painful. At taper time, switching to a blade is a huge boost.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What suit do you train in?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/78735?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:47:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:bc529fa1-9d0e-4db8-a35b-5706a67c219c</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Speedo Endurance briefs. The material really lasts like Fort wrote; after a year though of almost daily use, I haven&amp;#39;t found any problems with the liner though. The only problem now is that it has lost a lot of its elasticity and I really need to get a new one.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What suit do you train in?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/79311?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:01:59 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:d5a63fc4-cad1-436c-96a8-379cb7ceb69b</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Definitely go the polyester route.  I&amp;#39;ve got the speed endurance square leg and my kids  use polyester jammers for training.  One has the TYR Durafast and the other the speedo endurance.  All three suits are going on a year now and still look solid.

Money well spent! :cheerleader:

Kevin&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What suit do you train in?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/79451?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 03:38:02 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:c9dfc3ab-43b6-4ad8-9e89-ac4c4f605dca</guid><dc:creator>aztimm</dc:creator><description>Seems this topic comes up every 3 months or so....


Anyway, I train in a Keifer mesh drag suit, with a brief underneath.  The drag suit lasts years (as someone else said, I&amp;#39;ve lost these before they give out), my current one I&amp;#39;ve had for at least 2 years.  

The brief I wear under varies....lately I&amp;#39;ve gotten the most out of water polo suits.  They aren&amp;#39;t the most efficient, but then again I&amp;#39;m wearing a drag suit anyway.  I got 2 water polo suits at a local sporting goods store about 2 years ago, one is starting to show wear, the other still fine.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What suit do you train in?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/78633?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:00:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:b53cf763-b558-4a3f-8573-e5ffb490e9e2</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Tyr Durafast Jammers. Last for at least 6 months (3 if you get sunscreen on them.) I also do open water races in them.

-LBJ&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What suit do you train in?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/78199?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:23:13 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:cbdd9116-9099-427b-98da-b0751744f027</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I wear a TYR brief. It lasts about 3 months but at $25 I just throw it away. It seems to last as long as my goggles. I just ordered a grab bag so no telling what it will look like.:dunno::blush::bolt:&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What suit do you train in?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/78129?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:09:28 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:e30b6f96-d5d1-46ec-ac86-85e5200c87c5</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Question - Why does the suit spinner wear suits out faster?  I use it daily and my nylon suits last about 9-10 months.   Maybe if I didn&amp;#39;t use the spinner they would last 12 months?


I suspect something might be wrong with our spinner. 
When they work well....the machine sort of hums instead of the horrible grinding noise which ours makes.

   Occasionally some genius throws their nasty dripping wet beach towel into the basket. No wonder it&amp;#39;s hurting.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What suit do you train in?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/78521?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:02:16 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:390b9c60-a889-4202-93ca-f9f6629bf9fd</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>speedo jammers and a speedo dragsuit&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What suit do you train in?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/78391?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:28:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:811be5f7-5090-42c7-865d-ad72d74b5a69</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>The 100% polyester suits would last forever except the seams end up giving out, as mentioned by Fortress.  My TYR poly mesh drag suit just split the seam at the crotch a couple weeks ago.  Other than that you&amp;#39;d think it was brand new!  I guess if you&amp;#39;re a good seamstress maybe they will last forever.

I always used to use 100% nylon suits.  They last quite a while, but fade in color quickly.  Don&amp;#39;t use a suit that contains lycra for practice purposes.

Assuming the manufacturer used polyester for all four threads (two needles, upper and lower looper), the tensions were set correctly, and the suit was the correct size, the seam should last as long as the polyester fabric. I have a polyester Chloroblock suit that I made two years ago, and apart from the lining bagging out (it&amp;#39;s nylon) and a bit of fading, it&amp;#39;s still usable. And that was made on a household serger that wasn&amp;#39;t of the best quality, not an industrial model. 
Could be they used nylon &amp;quot;wooly&amp;quot; for the loopers. It gives a very stretchy seam but doesn&amp;#39;t seem to hold up to chemicals as well. Wooly is the stuff that looks sort of &amp;quot;fluffy&amp;quot; and is usually only used for the looper threads (the ones that wrap around the outside edge). If the wrapping threads look smooth and no different from the needle threads (check the top stitching for comparison) then it was most likely sewn with all polyester thread and may last a bit longer. I say &amp;quot;may last&amp;quot; because I don&amp;#39;t personally believe serger seams are as inherently strong as some sewing machine seams. Sergers are mainly used in industry because they are so fast.
We have salt water pools here which aren&amp;#39;t as hard on suits (or sinuses) but even with that, I&amp;#39;ve noticed that lycra varies widely. Some lycra fabric lasts almost a year, others are only good for a few months.
As to whether a suit will last longer if it fits loosely - probably not. You have more fabric waving in the current and catching, so more stress on the fibers rather than less.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What suit do you train in?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/77989?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 11:41:07 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:4a5978bd-a677-481d-8113-96086ce41bf0</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I swim in a 80% polyester brief, its nice because its still comfy and strechy like your nylon based lycra but lasts A LOT longer, though not as long as the 100% poly, to me its the sweet spot for suits.. the trick is knowing the brands that use the polyester blend rather then the nylon for the standard suits. I stopped using speedo brand years ago, I know they have the endurance suits, but I just like the 80% polyester better:) (and cheaper to..&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What suit do you train in?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/78315?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:29:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:852c6033-410d-409b-90ed-05eb566da671</guid><dc:creator>ViveBene</dc:creator><description>Cheapest suit I can get from Speedo. By the time it&amp;#39;s worn out, which doesn&amp;#39;t take too long, I am sick of it anyway. It goes into the spinner so I do not drag a wet and dripping suit around with me.
 
VB&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What suit do you train in?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/78498?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 08:05:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:bfa7a571-5736-4cb5-b34a-b8bf6767ac1f</guid><dc:creator>knelson</dc:creator><description>Yeah, the thread must be a different material because there&amp;#39;s no question it deteriorates more quickly.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What suit do you train in?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/78096?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 06:41:16 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:5dc3774d-8ca0-4529-8728-4f2b1dd22e06</guid><dc:creator>swimshark</dc:creator><description>The suit spinner wears out the threads faster than with just normal rinsing and drying.

I use lycra EQ suit for working out. The suits last forever. Have some that are over a year and a half old and I can still wear them. They are a bit stretched and faded but that is it. I have worn polyester but I don&amp;#39;t like it as much. I love the EQ suits. I usually get their grab bag and enjoy seeing what they send me when the bag arrives. I highly recommend everyone try them out (no, I don&amp;#39;t work for them)

&lt;a href="http://www.eqswimwear.com/"&gt;http://www.eqswimwear.com/&lt;/a&gt;

Alison&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What suit do you train in?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/78367?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 04:52:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:9b1d0010-b549-4199-9db7-c23da5b0ffc7</guid><dc:creator>Allen Stark</dc:creator><description>Re: the nylon suits,yes they fade,but the black fades to gray and still looks OK.The blue fades to pink and is not OK IMHO.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What suit do you train in?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/78341?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 04:40:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:93904535-4fda-45e1-9f0c-50ff2e742ab9</guid><dc:creator>knelson</dc:creator><description>The 100% polyester suits would last forever except the seams end up giving out, as mentioned by Fortress.  My TYR poly mesh drag suit just split the seam at the crotch a couple weeks ago.  Other than that you&amp;#39;d think it was brand new!  I guess if you&amp;#39;re a good seamstress maybe they will last forever.

I always used to use 100% nylon suits.  They last quite a while, but fade in color quickly.  Don&amp;#39;t use a suit that contains lycra for practice purposes.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What suit do you train in?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/77784?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 12:53:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:4273d3f8-1d8b-4ec8-8199-2608a69ed896</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>TYR jammers. They have proven to last waaaay longer than Nike and Speedo brands.
No stretching or wearing down of the fabric.  As Anna Lea said...the fabric makes all the difference.


Are we allowed to talk brand names on the forum? 


And also, they last much longer when you avoid throwing them into the suit spinner.
Wear them in the shower for a good rinse after each swim and they should stay virtually new for at least 6 months.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What suit do you train in?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/77687?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 12:36:18 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:8501d9f6-4569-4ff8-b147-11ba9d74f3b7</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>It&amp;#39;s not the suit size that is causing your problem - it&amp;#39;s the fabric.  You are probably wearing a suit that contains lycra or spandex.  These fibers deteriorate in chlorine; three months is about all I can get from a suit that contains lycra.

What you want is a suit made of 100% polyester.  It will last at least a year in chlorinated water.

Anna Lea&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What suit do you train in?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/77962?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 11:45:34 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:c2f5c3b8-e817-46e4-aa86-bfca0285bb62</guid><dc:creator>The Fortress</dc:creator><description>Among others, I use the speedo endurance suit.  I put it in the suit spinner regularly.   Still lasts forever.  I think I&amp;#39;ve had mine for over 1 1/2 years.  The liner started degrading. I ripped it out and kept wearing it.  Finally, the seams burst.  I can&amp;#39;t say I like the fit as much as other suits, but it lasts forever.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What suit do you train in?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/77946?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 11:40:52 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:4ed5bc82-c42a-4925-9049-3df1b50c1d11</guid><dc:creator>allenhighnote</dc:creator><description>I&amp;#39;ve worn a polyester TYR trainer (loose fitting, mesh) for over a year and it does not show any sign of deterioration.   I wear a lycra speedo under it to avoid :mooning: the lifeguards.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>