Breaststroke and thunder thighs.

RE: Breaststroke and thunder thighs.

Former Member — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:37:59 GMT

Carrie Thanks for the support. Yes I have read that weightloss can be huge for helping knee problems. I still have a ways to go but it is getting better. Time will tell Katie

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Former Member — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:48:00 GMT

My fins are a bit shorter to. More the shape of the zoomers ( perhaps a tad longer) most of my swim club use the speedo trainers which are a little longer. They sure make you feel like you are going faster than mine. But I need the help with leg strengthening so I am sticking with mine for now. As I got used to them I forgot what the others were like. Katie

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Former Member — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:38:53 GMT

Allen we have done that drill to. It is great. 2fish I don't have to wear socks with my fins. I even ordered them off line and I got the right size. They are great. I was working out and swimming I have had to pull back on the working out. I am only in my 7th week swimming and am up to 4 times a week. I was too sore and I really still need the recovery days. I do try to get out on my bike but that will change as the weather does. The swimming still bothers my knees. But as I know what is wrong with them and I am not doing anymore damage I just ignore them. Of course that may not happen later on in life. I know I am going to have knee replacements but knowing I can still swim after those is very comforting. In the meantime I need to drop some weight. It is slowly coming off so that is all good Katie

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aquaFeisty — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 08:10:20 GMT

I was a breaststroker during my short age-group career (ages 12-14) and always had huge quads. You figure *** kicking is like doing leg extension after leg extension so it's going to build up those muscles. Even now that I do very little *** kicking, I still have large quads. I think a large part of it is genetic and related to how easily you build muscle. If you are happy with your leaner, more muscular self, that is what counts!! :) Congrats on the continuing weight loss, Katie! I remember reading somewhere that a 10% reduction in body weight provides a 90% reduction in knee pain. Maybe it wasn't quite 90%, but it was some very high number...

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swimshark — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 07:44:31 GMT

No, not the *** stroke ones...the last thing I need to work on is my kick there.......I was thinking regular zoomers, just to be able to do a different kick ......Sorry to hear about the busted knees,at one time I had considered getting the special BS fins, but came up with a better way of improving my BS kick....I've got arthritis in both my knee and ankle and would hate to make it worse..... I have the Zoomers and like them. They take some getting used to if you are used to the long fins. Get blue if your ankles aren't very flexible, red if they are. Alison

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Former Member — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 06:26:14 GMT

Thanks mightyminnow. I am really trying to watch what I eat. Portion size is a huge thing for me. I just plain eat tooooooooo much. I am starving half the time but it is getting better. I think that the muscles around my knees need to get stronger as well. It is good to hear from someone who has had things change for the better with regards to knee pain. Congrats on losing 25 pounds that is awesome. I am sure you will get the last 20 off. The inches sure are nice to Katie

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Former Member — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 05:54:27 GMT

Hey Cathlaur- I too, had knee pain when I started swimming again about 2.5 years ago....now, most of the pain is gone, only a twinge now and then. I suspect that I had weak hamstrings and all the flutter and dolphin kicking strengthened them. As for weight loss, I did not lose any the first 2 years, although I went down a dress size. Now I've made a concerted effort to really cut back on my calories (mainly carbs), and have slowly managed to lose almost 25 lbs since this summer. I still want to lose another 20. I had hoped my times would get faster (since there is less to drag around) but I've not seen that effect yet. I swim mainly for fitness, 3 to 4 times per week...weekdays I don't have time for more than 2500, but saturday practices usually we swim at least 4000 yards. Good luck with your swimming and the worst of the soreness will pass.

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Former Member — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:45:56 GMT

RE: Breaststroke and thunder thighs.

Former Member — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:08:39 GMT

Clothes are made for average people(or anorexic waifs.) Be proud of your muscles,you are a breaststroker,the highest lifeform in the universe:rofl::rofl:. Thanks!!! That really helps!!!!! :applaud:

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Former Member — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 14:54:29 GMT

We did *** stroke drills today. OUCH is all I have to say. I will never be good at *** stroke but I would like to get better. My legs are sore Katie

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Former Member — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:43:13 GMT

2 fish We use fins sometimes and I really enjoy them. I bought the silicone ones off of kiefer. They are very comfortable. The only thing is you get the colour by foot size. I have a size 10 ladies so I got BRIGHT YELLOW FINS. Everyone in my masters group giggles. They think they suit me. I to have arthritis. Does it feel better after your legs are stronger? 2fish very funny LOL Katie Why not bright yellow? And did you know you can decorate them with sharpies........I guess that is more appealing if you are 12! I guess I should just order 2-3 different types/sizes and see which ones fit best. I've sen some people at my pool who wear socks with their flippers do adjust for the size, but i just don't like the idea of wet socks. As a matter of fact my joints have felt better since i dropped all land aerobics, so th eswimming is not agravating it. I'm the whale, my kids are the fish......:fish2::fish2: :wiggle:

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Former Member — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:53:33 GMT

I think I'd recommend getting a doctor with more experience I'm not a medical professional so I didn't wan't to comment, but my immediate intuitive reaction was similar to Allen's.

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Allen Stark — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:55:40 GMT

Breaststroke pull/dolphin kick with fins is a great drill to improve your wave and also to get some breaststroke work in without straining your knees.

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Former Member — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:26:28 GMT

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Former Member — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:06:46 GMT

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RE: Breaststroke and thunder thighs.

Former Member — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:31:14 GMT

Breaststroke fins? Be careful. They can wreck the knees if not used properly or used too much. I know kids who are in their teens that now have knee issues thanks to those fins. I borrow some from a team mate and love using them but since I had knee surgery 8 years ago, I am careful to not use them too much. Alison No, not the *** stroke ones...the last thing I need to work on is my kick there.......I was thinking regular zoomers, just to be able to do a different kick ......Sorry to hear about the busted knees,at one time I had considered getting the special BS fins, but came up with a better way of improving my BS kick....I've got arthritis in both my knee and ankle and would hate to make it worse.....

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Former Member — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 07:50:57 GMT

2fish,it has been many years since I was in medical school or did beast exams so I may be missing something,but I can't imagine how muscle mass or tone would interfere with the exam. The *** is over the muscle.I think I'd recommend getting a doctor with more experience with athletic women instead of changing my workout. I know a standard selling point for weight training for women is that building up the pecs enhances the breasts' prominence. Yeah, I know, it confused me initialy as well. But my "girls" are pretty big(DD) and I have a family history of cancer, so she checks the whole area around as well and it was getting difficult to feel the tissue around the ***. Honestly, I was getting a bit concerned that my pecs had gotten so big. I have a tendency to bulk up fast and I had used lighter weights and done lots of repetitions, plus pilates, but combined with the swimming I think I overdid it. Since I switched to swimming only I have not regretted it, it's just boring doing the same thing over and over! One thing I'm thinking about adding to my *** stroke workouts, is to get flippers and do blocks of kicking. I can't for the life of me go forward doing the flutter kick so even when I do laps of kicking I do the *** stroke kick. I thought maybe the flippers will help me go in the right direction......

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Former Member — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 07:28:01 GMT

Have fun LOL. My arms are sore and so are my abs. LOL It is all good though Katie

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Former Member — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 07:19:10 GMT

Oh yeah all *** stroke. It was really tough. Katie WOW! I should try that next time I am in the pool!!! Thanks!!!

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Former Member — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 07:14:25 GMT

Oh yeah all *** stroke. It was really tough. Katie

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Former Member — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 07:01:13 GMT

We had to put the pullbouy at our ankles then swim 3 x 50 pulling with one arem ( the other at top of head straight out) then alternate each arm. It's all breaststroke, right?

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Former Member — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:27:02 GMT

Lets see We had to put the pullbouy at our ankles then swim 3 x 50 pulling with one arem ( the other at top of head straight out) then alternate each arm. Concentrating on our pull and getting our shoulder out of the water. Then 3 x 50 regular arms with the pullbouy at our ankles. Then 3 x 50 *** stroke kick with our arms down by our side The 3 x 50 regular *** stroke. I really think it made a difference with my pull. I was not pulling enough. It was interesting and I enjoyed it. Katie

RE: Breaststroke and thunder thighs.

Former Member — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:14:41 GMT

I happen to be a *** stroke only swimmer and used to do upper body weight workouts as well. Until my anual exam that is! My Dr. had such a difficult time doing a proper *** exam because I had so much muscle build up over my chest and I was advised to stop lifting weights. But I have continued to swim the *** stroke for the past year, 5X week and was told at my recent check up that there is a lot less hard muscle. So maybe the same applies to the legs. If you are swimming a lot of breaststroke, you might wan't to cut back on weight work outs for the legs. Vary your swims with the bike or running, just to hit different parts of the legs- and butt! :mooning: I am not really doing anything special for my upper body, just a lot of pulls (free and ***), but I do work more on my lower body - mostly ballet and a little bit of weights..... I wonder if that's the problem.....:shakeshead: Maybe I just should swim and not do weights at all? I can't do running due to bad back, but maybe I'll try biking.

RE: Breaststroke and thunder thighs.

Former Member — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:11:06 GMT

We did *** stroke drills today. OUCH is all I have to say. I will never be good at *** stroke but I would like to get better. My legs are sore Katie Please do tell more!!!:bow:

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swimshark — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 04:20:28 GMT

One thing I'm thinking about adding to my *** stroke workouts, is to get flippers and do blocks of kicking. I can't for the life of me go forward doing the flutter kick so even when I do laps of kicking I do the *** stroke kick. I thought maybe the flippers will help me go in the right direction...... Breaststroke fins? Be careful. They can wreck the knees if not used properly or used too much. I know kids who are in their teens that now have knee issues thanks to those fins. I borrow some from a team mate and love using them but since I had knee surgery 8 years ago, I am careful to not use them too much. Alison