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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://community.usms.org/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>FS PRO Jammer Sizing</title><link>https://community.usms.org/swimming/f/general/5496/fs-pro-jammer-sizing</link><description>Does anybody have any insight as to what size one should order? The sizing guidelines on Speedo&amp;#39;s website suggest that you order one size smaller in the FSII (as compared to an endurance suit) but nothing is said for the PRO. I am inclined to order using</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 12</generator><item><title>RE: FS PRO Jammer Sizing</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/75201?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 16:39:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:faa9dfea-210a-42e3-891d-cf586f93654e</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Ah, ok.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FS PRO Jammer Sizing</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/75111?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:19:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:a5e96b20-bcee-4436-99e3-128a17f88edb</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Shaman:
 
Yeah that&amp;#39;s me in a race last summer.  What I call trunks are my Speedo endurance Square legs.
 
I have a mesh drag suit and wore it today.  Its more brief like than I am used to.  I think I really hate my jammers now.  I have briefs and will try them next workout.  We&amp;#39;ll see how it works for training.  One down side is that in my jammers I didn&amp;#39;t need another pair of shorts to make it from the parking lot through the gym to the pool.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FS PRO Jammer Sizing</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/75037?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:55:52 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:412572d0-e932-401c-a43f-cce859150045</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I may just reconsider attending in order to see that! It would require a very thorough waxing to &amp;quot;pull-off&amp;quot; the look.:banana:
 
I should have donned a banana hammock at Zones on Sunday we could have all laughed at my &amp;quot;fur jammers&amp;quot; :lmao:&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FS PRO Jammer Sizing</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/74953?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:53:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:68466ea9-b24a-4ecd-88b8-ec81a6fc8115</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>34.651% of the reason I go to meets is due to the voyeurism factor...I&amp;#39;m seriously considering the Boratskin Pro for the Sprint Classic...
You
 
I may just reconsider attending in order to see that!  It would require a very thorough waxing to &amp;quot;pull-off&amp;quot; the look.:banana:&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FS PRO Jammer Sizing</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/74902?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:47:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:543fbc7c-4d3c-41a7-914f-cd6c14c4e98c</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>The high school &amp;amp; college boys I train with love the Speedo Flip-turns prints and train in briefs. The louder the print the better (flowers, bright colors, whatever). It is a bit Darwinian. The best swimmers wear the loudest suits, while the slower guys stick to muted colors or jammers. Of course, these guys have zero body fat and barely need to shave.

 
Hmmm seems you&amp;#39;ve been paying careful attention...it&amp;#39;s a &amp;quot;Springer&amp;quot; show waiting to happen....
 
Masters swimmers are at a whole different level on the evolutionary chain. We are more comfortable with our bodies (some, perhaps, too comfortable) and do not let things like stretch marks, beer bellies, or a few extra pounds stop us from strutting our stuff on deck. Suits that have seen so many competitons they&amp;#39;re see-through--we just wear them in practice! Belly so big you can&amp;#39;t see you toes--wear a loud speedo! We may never reclaim the speed we had in our youth, but darn it, we still look good.:D
 
34.651% of the reason I go to meets is due to the voyeurism factor...I&amp;#39;m seriously considering the Boratskin Pro for the Sprint Classic...
Masters don&amp;#39;t need to have speed as an excuse to wear something eyecatching...we&amp;#39;re confident enough and grateful for any pleasing glances received...laughing because you pop the a$$ out of your worn out old suit on the dive is just amusement for all.
Plus old suits have sentimental value... &amp;quot;I wore this when I went such and such time...&amp;quot;
 
At least swim chicks may understand why us guys like to retain uor trust old perforated t-shirts and boxers...&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FS PRO Jammer Sizing</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/74829?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:40:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:e5b270d4-f7b1-46bf-903a-6c972b59b788</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I&amp;#39;ve noticed that the more comfortable men are with their swimming ability, the more avant guard they become with their suits.
 
The high school &amp;amp; college boys I train with love the Speedo Flip-turns prints and train in briefs. The louder the print the better (flowers, bright colors, whatever). It is a bit Darwinian. The best swimmers wear the loudest suits, while the slower guys stick to muted colors or jammers. Of course, these guys have zero body fat and barely need to shave.
 
Masters swimmers are at a whole different level on the evolutionary chain. We are more comfortable with our bodies (some, perhaps, too comfortable) and do not let things like stretch marks, beer bellies, or a few extra pounds stop us from strutting our stuff on deck. Suits that have seen so many competitons they&amp;#39;re see-through--we just wear them in practice! Belly so big you can&amp;#39;t see you toes--wear a loud speedo! We may never reclaim the speed we had in our youth, but darn it, we still look good.:D&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FS PRO Jammer Sizing</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/75327?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 08:37:52 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:fa66bc01-4d17-48eb-8e75-cbc516e81a5d</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Actually, Dana, to achieve &amp;quot;the look&amp;quot; would stipulate no shaving or waxing...
 
:shakeshead:
 
Ok, this imagery is just :notworking:.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FS PRO Jammer Sizing</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/75258?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 08:21:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:6bc625dd-bd0b-495f-b068-812b3f43b4ac</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I may just reconsider attending in order to see that!  It would require a very thorough waxing to &amp;quot;pull-off&amp;quot; the look.:banana:

Actually, Dana, to achieve &amp;quot;the look&amp;quot; would stipulate no shaving or waxing...

:shakeshead:&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FS PRO Jammer Sizing</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/74759?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 12:36:33 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:3223a37a-9e0d-48fd-b48d-c018d36d36ce</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>And what is Pierre going to wear in his grudge match with SwimStud?
 
&amp;quot;...a finger and a thumb, in the shape of an L...&amp;quot; 
 
...no wait, that&amp;#39;s after...&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FS PRO Jammer Sizing</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/74623?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 10:01:01 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:39cbec75-90fb-40dc-bf7a-15155d66cbe1</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>The wife of Pierre now calls me Pepe le Hot.

I&amp;#39;ve met your wife,  Somehow I doubt she said that.  She strikes me as a woman with excellent taste.  Which begs the obvious question...&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FS PRO Jammer Sizing</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/74533?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 10:00:53 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:9afa2041-9b92-495c-a87e-31fab76cc6b5</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Fort, look at that avatar and tell me it&amp;#39;s not groundbreaking for him to wear a brief.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FS PRO Jammer Sizing</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/74424?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 09:51:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:143a6c4c-8483-4202-b355-47dc64586e74</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>The brief is back.

Reminds me of a picture I posted on a different thread.

Hey, when did you get the new truck?&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FS PRO Jammer Sizing</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/74359?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 09:43:02 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:19336e70-1fcf-4db2-92f6-a90f285835fd</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Pierre say &amp;quot;go old school.&amp;quot;  The brief is back.


We all know what Pierre says.   What does Pierre&amp;#39;s wife say?

And what is Pierre going to wear in his grudge match with SwimStud?&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FS PRO Jammer Sizing</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/74256?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 09:20:51 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:27647a7f-df3d-4392-b3d3-e53c8997059d</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I think the wild colors and prints that briefs are now available in are aiding their rise in popularity.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FS PRO Jammer Sizing</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/74157?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 09:14:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:e01b1440-beeb-4d56-a066-c2fa49246e43</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Believe me if that&amp;#39;s you in your avatar you&amp;#39;d look better in a speedo than most of the pot bellied old men rocking banana hammocks (no offense). I trained in trunks as a kid but I don&amp;#39;t recommend it, there&amp;#39;s so much drag it can hinder your form. 
   As far as tech suits are concerned...just a few years ago everyone thought the less fabric the better, which is why everyone wore speedos. Then came Ian Thorpe in his  full body suit in 1998 I believe, which is the first body suit that I remember. Then came the 2000 Olympics, which is where body suits sort of made their debut. After that they started coming out with training Jammers and those got really popular because to an 11 year old Speedo&amp;#39;s aren&amp;#39;t cool. Speedos are coming back in vogue, I&amp;#39;m not sure if they ever went out at the elite level. I&amp;#39;ve heard that as far as training suits are concerned speedos are faster. To me they&amp;#39;re more convenient and cheaper.
   About drag suits, a little drag is a good thing, I&amp;#39;d look into something like this: &lt;a href="http://www.swimoutlet.com/product_p/2381.htm"&gt;www.swimoutlet.com/.../2381.htm&lt;/a&gt; which you can wear over a speedo or jammer.

&lt;a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=1Go-gKbG57w"&gt;youtube.com/watch&lt;/a&gt; take a look at that video at 2:35, can&amp;#39;t believe that tall of a man can/used to fit himself into such a tiny suit.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FS PRO Jammer Sizing</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/74068?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 08:58:08 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:3b168f72-4eba-44df-b7ff-4a92574574aa</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>So just wear speedo&amp;#39;s. It seems to me lots if not most elite athletes train in them.
 
Shaman:  That would make sense.
 
Rob:  I didn&amp;#39;t think ladies liked guys in Speedos (except the ones I was with at the &amp;#39;96 men&amp;#39;s olympic water polo prelims...they seemed to like it..a lot!).
 
But the real question is utility.  I&amp;#39;d think at college/Pro levels, you&amp;#39;d wear what you are fastest in.  Isn&amp;#39;t that what tech suits do for you?
 
I train in trunks because I race in them and just thought that Jammers were supposed to be faster.  I&amp;#39;ve always been comfortable in briefs, but after turning 40 thought I&amp;#39;d give the ladies a change to keep their lunch down.:shakeshead:&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FS PRO Jammer Sizing</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/74809?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 08:51:08 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:2d68ea0e-d981-4717-9737-50cb4c261d90</guid><dc:creator>aquageek</dc:creator><description>&amp;quot;...a finger and a thumb, in the shape of an L...&amp;quot; 
 
...no wait, that&amp;#39;s after...

Finally, some quality comedy!  Good one.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FS PRO Jammer Sizing</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/74021?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 08:45:37 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:3df8222e-985f-4a49-8837-fdf4c096bf7d</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Briefs are making a strong comeback it seems.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FS PRO Jammer Sizing</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/73944?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 08:45:07 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:596286ad-4372-4324-9a0a-03870f71282c</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>So just wear speedo&amp;#39;s. It seems to me lots if not most elite athletes train in them.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FS PRO Jammer Sizing</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/73842?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 08:28:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:9f857c22-af14-40d1-9c41-1b40678a7b51</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>my college coach MAKES all the boys buy briefs for meets...no jammers allowed until championships, and even then it depends on ur events.
 
Why?  Shouldn&amp;#39;t you train in what you are going to race in?  OK, not the tech suits, but at least the same style.
 
I am trying to get used to jammers.  I don&amp;#39;t like them.  They feel very restrictive.  The jury is still out.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FS PRO Jammer Sizing</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/73778?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 07:21:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:ff57a5b1-c866-4e20-8645-81775d2d2173</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>my college coach MAKES all the boys buy briefs for meets...no jammers allowed until championships, and even then it depends on ur events.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FS PRO Jammer Sizing</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/74735?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 06:17:01 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:c97737e1-7cd0-43ed-ac05-b40689f7e1fc</guid><dc:creator>aquageek</dc:creator><description>None of them are called Pierre.

yet&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FS PRO Jammer Sizing</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/74699?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 06:10:24 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:95a9abe6-0844-4290-b42f-89552ddbbbe1</guid><dc:creator>The Fortress</dc:creator><description>Fort, look at that avatar and tell me it&amp;#39;s not groundbreaking for him to wear a brief.
 
Ah, but I&amp;#39;ve seen the photo of Geek and Gull.  I recall what Geek looks like -- and it wasn&amp;#39;t some skinny redneck.  I think Pierre will be fine.  Seems like the brief is a real hit with the wife, which is all that really matters.
 
BTW, I loved my own Pro!  I didn&amp;#39;t notice any bubbling, despite using a recordbreaker.  No rips either, fortunately.  Much lighter than the FS II.  I wore my very old FS II for one event to keep the Pro dry -- it felt like a sodden heavy thing by comparison.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FS PRO Jammer Sizing</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/74511?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 05:59:38 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:8cf86c57-a62f-4f82-b349-7a276fe9a8ec</guid><dc:creator>The Fortress</dc:creator><description>I don&amp;#39;t think briefs are all the ground-breaking. Seems like most of the men on my team train with the speedo mesh briefs. None of them are called Pierre.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: FS PRO Jammer Sizing</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/74479?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 05:52:49 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:d8e79cfa-e849-4693-a84c-8037ef54d050</guid><dc:creator>aquageek</dc:creator><description>And what is Pierre going to wear in his grudge match with SwimStud?

A grudge match can only exist in a battle of equals, in a country where both are legal residents, where both swimmers know how to flip turn, and who drink manly coffee drinks, not tea, and certainly where both men DO NOT write poetry.

The wife of Pierre now calls me Pepe le Hot.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>