2007 Long Course Nationals

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pakman044 — Tue, 14 Aug 2007 01:35:49 GMT

I do wish FINA would update their masters world records as fast as they update their "real" world records. A week after worlds in Melbourne, all the new world records were on the site. Does anyone know why we only get the records updated twice a year? I know records fall quite often in masters, but it can't be that hard to update it even once a month? This way, heat sheets can be as accurate as possible. I don't know why they're so slow, but the regular FINA records get updated about as slowly (e.g., Kate Ziegler's 1500 record still hasn't been updated, and it was set June 17; Therese Alshammar's 50 Fly was set June 13). Records for World Championships are automatically approved, so the Melbourne records could be posted right away (see FINA SW 12.14). Patrick King

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jonblank — Mon, 13 Aug 2007 12:45:52 GMT

She really swam well! It was the 200 back, not the 100 fly, that she got the WR in though. Yeah, I knew that. I was just testing you. :laugh2:

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The Fortress — Mon, 13 Aug 2007 08:47:40 GMT

It's great to see Sue Walsh swimming so well! A superb LC Nationals for her, winning all 6 individual events (50/100 x Fr/Ba/Fly) in WR times! Way to go, Tarheel! She really swam well! It was the 200 back, not the 100 fly, that she got the WR in though. Quite a show. She's swimming even faster than last year. :applaud: Karlyn P-N has some real competition in the recordbook area now.

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jonblank — Mon, 13 Aug 2007 07:53:44 GMT

It's great to see Sue Walsh swimming so well! A superb LC Nationals for her, winning all 6 individual events (50/100 x Fr/Ba, 50 Fl, 200Ba) in WR times! Way to go, Tarheel!

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Jeff Commings — Mon, 13 Aug 2007 05:11:18 GMT

She really swam well! It was the 200 back, not the 100 fly, that she got the WR in though. Quite a show. She's swimming even faster than last year. :applaud: Karlyn P-N has some real competition in the recordbook area now. I hope Ms. Walsh knows that the times she swum will not actually be world records, with the exception of the 50 back, and maybe the 50 free. Karlyn did swim faster than her in meets earlier this year. I personally watched Karlyn go a little faster in the 50 fly here in Tucson. Go here to see results from her swims in Mision Viejo. She also swim in Tucson and a meet in Mexico earlier, and I don't know exactly how she did in Mexico. But the good thing is she'll still get WR certificates from FINA, because she did swim faster than the published world record (Karlyn's records won't be official until the end of the month, when the times are turned into FINA). I do wish FINA would update their masters world records as fast as they update their "real" world records. A week after worlds in Melbourne, all the new world records were on the site. Does anyone know why we only get the records updated twice a year? I know records fall quite often in masters, but it can't be that hard to update it even once a month? This way, heat sheets can be as accurate as possible.

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Allen Stark — Mon, 13 Aug 2007 03:31:35 GMT

Wow,what a meet.:groovy: It was very well organized and the people were really nice:kiss1:. It was also unbelievably hot:whiteflag:.The pool would be OK in the early morning but by relays it wasn't:whiteflag::whiteflag:.I can't believe my 100 BR:bouncing:.I really didn't expect to go that fast.I'm pretty proud of my 200BR also.Great meet,but next time we have a meet in the South how about an indoor pool.

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Former Member — Sun, 12 Aug 2007 16:05:09 GMT

One thing I noticed on the website is that maybe the scores aren't correct. On the results pages, the scores are based on the standard 16 lane scoring system (20-17-16-15-14-13-12-11-9-7-6-5-4-3-2-1, double for relays), but the meet information says it should be 11-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1 (double for relays). My informant tells me that he'll look into this tomorrow morning. Also, he says the world records should now be correct in the meet results. Anna Lea

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Jeff Commings — Sun, 12 Aug 2007 12:23:09 GMT

Anyone here live in the Woodlands? I have a favor to ask you via private message. Thanks.

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ande — Sun, 12 Aug 2007 10:18:47 GMT

great to meet you thanks for the photo ande I got to meet Gull and Ande each briefly yesterday after their 100 free swims. Hopefully I'll catch up with Ande a little more this weekend, but it looks like Gull was only swimming yesterday. I caught some pictures of each of them prior to their swims: (Gull, Ande, Ande's start) www.usms.org/.../attachment.php

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ande — Sun, 12 Aug 2007 10:04:42 GMT

he was funny Mark Gill did an awsome job as announcer. Keeping it exciting and humorous thoughout the weekend. Great meet everyone!!!!!!:fish2:

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swim4me — Sun, 12 Aug 2007 07:45:40 GMT

Mark Gill did an awsome job as announcer. Keeping it exciting and humorous thoughout the weekend. Great meet everyone!!!!!!:fish2:

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Former Member — Sat, 11 Aug 2007 15:26:34 GMT

Oh how I wish I were there. Seems like some great swimming going on. I move into the new age group next year (75 in may), that came soonner then I thought. May be it's time to set a goal. My last real race was in 1973 a marathon race and quit racing, then just taught swimming for the next 25 years. On April 8th, 1998 I went into serious training and raced in May 1998. Since then it has been teaching and coaching swimming and no racing. I can still put together a fair to middlin 50 and 100 crawl and fly. I better start and get ready so I can meet you all in 2008.

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Former Member — Sat, 11 Aug 2007 14:38:18 GMT

Congrats, Dr, Klein! Great swim. I'm guessing this is the same Sue Walsh who had the American Record in the 100 backstroke back in the '80s. Yes, I believe so. I read a nice article about her today: www.theacc.com/.../021507aae.html I saw her 50 back yesterday. It was brilliant.

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Former Member — Sat, 11 Aug 2007 13:41:34 GMT

BTW - where'd you get those guns? You been hitting the weights it seems, maybe even the juice. After all, you can self prescribe. Six weeks of long course training. Could also be the camera angle. Or maybe it was something my trainer gave me ("I just said, whatever, man").

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pakman044 — Sat, 11 Aug 2007 09:49:50 GMT

One thing I noticed on the website is that maybe the scores aren't correct. On the results pages, the scores are based on the standard 16 lane scoring system (20-17-16-15-14-13-12-11-9-7-6-5-4-3-2-1, double for relays), but the meet information says it should be 11-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1 (double for relays). I'd hate for the wrong final score to be announced and then team placings get shifted around (it happened to me once in high school, and I wasn't a happy camper). Patrick King

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aquageek — Sat, 11 Aug 2007 09:19:23 GMT

Note to Geek--I suspect there is a price on your head in San Diego. Ooooh, you mentioned the unmentionable name, that breaks the USMS code of silence. You are banished to late bloomin' man jail. BTW - where'd you get those guns? You been hitting the weights it seems, maybe even the juice. After all, you can self prescribe.

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Former Member — Sat, 11 Aug 2007 07:53:47 GMT

I got to meet Gull and Ande each briefly yesterday after their 100 free swims. Hopefully I'll catch up with Ande a little more this weekend, but it looks like Gull was only swimming yesterday. Thanks for the photo, Jim! Sorry we couldn't chat more--maybe next year in Austin. I only entered events on Friday, but my dad is still there collecting medals (he calls them awards for breathing) in the 85-89 age group. BTW, I did see Fast Ion swim his 400 a couple of heats before me. He looked very strong throughout, good technique and solid turns. His time, 5:24.47, was a 10 second improvement. I was impressed. We spoke briefly after our heat of the 100 free--nice guy, very passionate about swimming. Note to Geek--I suspect there is a price on your head in San Diego. I'm looking forward to aging up next year. Although I dropped 14 seconds in the 400 (my seed time was a conversion from scm) I was still out of medal contention. There was some very fast swimming despite the conditions (water temp of 82 during warmup, and the pool deck was like a furnace by midday).

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The Fortress — Sat, 11 Aug 2007 07:18:13 GMT

I looked up the 1984 OT results on the USA Swimming site and it was actually the 100 back where she was out-touched (1:02.65 to 1:02.77). She finished fourth in the 200. The 200 back was the event where Good Smith's wife (Tori Trees) pulled out a second place, thus securing a spot on the Olympic team, from lane 8. In any event it would appear that Sue Walsh is back in excellent form. I noticed she has a blazing 50 free today (27.44). She appears to have set a WR in the 200 back today too! The 45-49 year olds are really exceptionally fast! :cheerleader: Allen Stark won the 100 BR!! And Jim M. got 2nd! :woot:

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Former Member — Sat, 11 Aug 2007 06:45:06 GMT

I got to meet Gull and Ande each briefly yesterday after their 100 free swims... I caught some pictures of each of them prior to their swims... Maybe it's just me, but does anyone else notice a resemblance between Gull's shoulders and those of Ms. Torres? :) Anna Lea

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knelson — Sat, 11 Aug 2007 06:33:06 GMT

Yes, I believe so. I read a nice article about her today: www.theacc.com/.../021507aae.html I saw her 50 back yesterday. It was brilliant. I looked up the 1984 OT results on the USA Swimming site and it was actually the 100 back where she was out-touched (1:02.65 to 1:02.77). She finished fourth in the 200. The 200 back was the event where Good Smith's wife (Tori Trees) pulled out a second place, thus securing a spot on the Olympic team, from lane 8. In any event it would appear that Sue Walsh is back in excellent form. I noticed she has a blazing 50 free today (27.44).

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Former Member — Sat, 11 Aug 2007 05:42:38 GMT

Anyone know anyone there in meet management? The men's 200 back results haven't been posted. I want to make sure we get any notable swims from there covered on our site. Thanks!

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Former Member — Fri, 10 Aug 2007 15:52:41 GMT

For the record, I do own the world record in the 50 ***, even if the results from the event suggest otherwise. Not that I'm vain or anything. Anyway, I want to congratulate all the men in the 400 free. Those are outstanding times. I would have loved to see that final heat. So, when are you coming out east to hold a clinic?? :notworthy: pleeeeeeeeeeeez I see Our Fearless Leader got 3rd in his grouping too!

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knelson — Fri, 10 Aug 2007 12:17:00 GMT

For the record, I do own the world record in the 50 ***, even if the results from the event suggest otherwise. I noticed this comparing the world and nationals records in quite a few instances. I wonder why?... Dan Stephenson had a really fast 400 free setting a new 50-54 WR with a 4:16.61. Smokin'!

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Jeff Commings — Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:51:08 GMT

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Former Member — Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:29:37 GMT

They tell you to buy them uber-small... But if you buy them that way, holes. Doesn't seem ideal. Sounds like planned obsolescence to me. :) Anna Lea