Dolphin Kicking Test Set

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ande — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 01:46:44 GMT

any one doe this?

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Paul Smith — Sun, 13 May 2007 10:02:18 GMT

Jeff,there is a name to discribe people with ankles like yours,breaststroker. My personal order of swim speed is1)free,2)fly(to 75M)3)***(faster than fly past 75M)4)breaststroke kick5)SDK and 8)backstroke(my backstroke is so slow it doesn't deserve to be as high as 6) or 7). There's another name for them as well; gymnasts :joker:

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Former Member — Sat, 12 May 2007 14:02:45 GMT

This set is a really tall order. I've timed my 25 and 50, and I'm sure I could pull off a 100 although it would hurt and seem slow. A 200? That's going to be an ordeal. I'm sure I would suvive; I've run marathons on insufficient training and know that stubborness can be a success strategy. But we'd have to get past the issues of speed and just feel proud of getting through it.

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Former Member — Wed, 09 May 2007 15:10:05 GMT

I have a training book that states the list of swimming, from fastest to slowest is: Freestyle, Underwater dolphin kicks, Butterfly, Backstroke and ***. With this in mind, the book makes the following recommendations regarding SDKs: Freestyle Sprints & Middle Distance: Limit the amount of SDKs to no more than 3 otherwise you lose time to those who have started swimming Free (the faster stroke) Distance: Limit or eliminate SDKs to conserve energy. Back and Butterfly - SDKs are crucial and actually help to converse energy and are often the difference in a great split and extra energy in the last 50-100 - Plus SDKs (theoretically) are faster then swimming the stroke.

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chlorini — Wed, 09 May 2007 12:53:28 GMT

Beth, I think it really may just be getting used to it. I started by just doing one dolphin kick out of my free turn and then switching back to freestyle kick. It felt a little awkward at first, but as I got used to it, I bumped it up to two dolphins and starting noticing an improvement in my distance times especially (is that weird?). I now do three off each wall, and it feels way faster. And what's kind of strange is that I am not particularly fast at fly. Breaststroke is my best stroke, followed distance free. I do have very flexible ankles though ... Chlorini

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ande — Wed, 09 May 2007 12:20:14 GMT

jeff, you can do this set breastroke kick, I don't think there's a way to fix your feet and ankles. to SDK fast, swimmers need to have + flexible ankles and feet, it helps if a swimmer can point her toes to 180 degrees or beyond (compared to the shin) like this ___ ___ not like this ___ / + a great streamline, + perfect body position + excellent SDK technique and conditioning For the four or five of us in the world who cannot flex their ankles beyond 45 degrees, dolphin kicking is extremely overrated. Plus, we know we will have more oxygen than you on the final 25 of each race because we didn't swim half the race (in short course) underwater! OK, that's my bashing on SDK. It sounds like a fun test set, and I hope everyone tries it.

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knelson — Wed, 09 May 2007 11:31:09 GMT

I'm not very good at it. I also have a tendency to cork up to the surface after about 12.5 yards? Anyone else have this problem or have any suggestions on how to fix it? And, no, I'm not fat!

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ande — Wed, 09 May 2007 11:30:25 GMT

that should be the fastest to slowest stroke order but some swimmers change up SDK, Butterfly, & Backstroke SDK's and Free in Freestyle Fast SDKers take way more than 3 SDKs off the start and turns Phelps & Crocker take around 10 Walker & Weber Gale take 5 or 6 I have a training book that states the list of swimming, from fastest to slowest is: Freestyle, Underwater dolphin kicks, Butterfly, Backstroke and ***. With this in mind, the book makes the following recommendations regarding SDKs: Freestyle Sprints & Middle Distance: Limit the amount of SDKs to no more than 3 otherwise you lose time to those who have started swimming Free (the faster stroke) Distance: Limit or eliminate SDKs to conserve energy. Back and Butterfly - SDKs are crucial and actually help to conserve energy and are often the difference in a great split and extra energy in the last 50-100 - Plus SDKs (theoretically) are faster than swimming the stroke.

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swimr4life — Wed, 09 May 2007 11:27:15 GMT

I wish I could SDK well....especially after watching the tape of Phelps on the 200 free....AMAZING! I tried it and feel like it throws my rhythm off on the turns/breakouts! Any advice other than "just doing it"? :frustrated:

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Jeff Commings — Wed, 09 May 2007 11:20:07 GMT

For the four or five of us in the world who cannot flex their ankles beyond 45 degrees, dolphin kicking is extremely overrated. Plus, we know we will have more oxygen than you on the final 25 of each race because we didn't swim half the race (in short course) underwater! OK, that's my bashing on SDK. It sounds like a fun test set, and I hope everyone tries it.

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swimr4life — Wed, 09 May 2007 07:57:15 GMT

Jeff,there is a name to discribe people with ankles like yours,breaststroker. My personal order of swim speed is1)free,2)fly(to 75M)3)***(faster than fly past 75M) :lmao: :rofl: :lolup: ME TOO! That's why I don't do the 100 fly any more!

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Allen Stark — Wed, 09 May 2007 07:50:03 GMT

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The Fortress — Wed, 09 May 2007 05:21:14 GMT

Ande: Do we want to SDK using high cycle SDKs or more moderate cycles or does it depend on the distance and stroke? For example, when watching Worlds, I seem to recall that the women had a much higher cycle rate than the men. It also seemed that the high cycle rate was used more in the sprints, which I guess is to be expected. In contrast, Phelps always looked like he was very leisurely SDK-ing underwater with a fairly high amplitude or undulation. I'm sure he wasn't, but it looked that way. Particularly in the vids of his 200 free or 400 IM. For others, I know Ande doesn't use a monofin or fins, but I think they're useful for practicing SDKs. You've got to practice them; it's not instantly faster and automatic. Some may find it easier to pick up than others, but it is also a learned skill. Unless you're Jeff, and then you're screwed.

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Former Member — Tue, 08 May 2007 10:49:18 GMT

dolphin kicking is over rated. :2cents: I bet those words were not being uttered from the mouths of Phelps' competitors in Sydney this year.

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Former Member — Tue, 08 May 2007 10:24:53 GMT

dolphin kicking is over rated. :2cents:

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The Fortress — Tue, 08 May 2007 08:18:43 GMT

I bet those words were not being uttered from the mouths of Phelps' competitors in Sydney this year. How true, Matt. It's not for everyone. But it does seem to be the wave of the future. It's much faster for me. I will get around to timing myself and report back when I can breathe again. Right now, I'm up after a few kicks... :violin: But this is a fabulous idea! Getting a time on a 15 could be tricky.

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knelson — Tue, 08 May 2007 03:25:51 GMT

No, it does say you can kick on your side.

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Muppet — Tue, 08 May 2007 03:00:58 GMT

so for breathing, we either do this set on our backs and breathe when we can, or on our bellies, just lift the head up? would that be correct? :bouncing: