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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://community.usms.org/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>&amp;quot;Fat&amp;quot; swimmers</title><link>https://community.usms.org/swimming/f/general/5117/fat-swimmers</link><description>In the False Start thread we got off on a tangent about fat and thin swimmers. I&amp;#39;d like to start a thread about this topic. 

Since having my three children (2000, 2002, 2004) I have struggled with losing that belly. My husband, Mr. Exercise Physiologist</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 12</generator><item><title>RE: "Fat" swimmers</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/71109?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 13:43:04 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:1e23206b-ad66-48d3-a03d-88b924c3433d</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>All a Clydesdale division would do is water down Masters swimming in general.

I think you miswrote something here; didn&amp;#39;t you mean to say &amp;quot;weigh down&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;water down?&amp;quot;  But you have to admit Mr. Geek, if there were a Clydesdale Division, all you skinny people could laugh at us as we waddled our way up to the blocks, and then the gun goes off and our times are faster than yours!!!:rofl:  Stranger things have happened....&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: "Fat" swimmers</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/71172?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 09:45:37 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:41957957-79dd-4552-8d4a-7de880e6a101</guid><dc:creator>Karen Duggan</dc:creator><description>Hi Jim,
   You are a smart man AND a fast swimmer. 
   Are you going this weekend? What are you swimming?
   Shoot, I wasn&amp;#39;t even thinking about Patrick (2nd grader, next year) missing school... I was thinking about my own classes!!!! DOH! Good point, Jim. I know I get independent study contracts from students all the time- I&amp;#39;ve had 
6th graders go to: Rome, Egypt, China, Thailand, Philippines, Hawaii (a lot), Fiji... they are a well-to-do group! 
   I don&amp;#39;t know if I can even talk Pat Sr. into going. 1) It&amp;#39;s a lot of money, 2) His 6&amp;#39; 4-dom hates LC (not enough turns!), and 3) he may not be able to get the time off... sigh. 
  If I start working the angles now though... hmmmmmmm ;)&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: "Fat" swimmers</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/71086?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 06:47:55 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:75b2505c-0794-48c5-bbcf-ff22d81ab9ca</guid><dc:creator>Jim Clemmons</dc:creator><description>I&amp;#39;ve got mine but I think I&amp;#39;ll keep it to myself. I may live longer.


Karen,

I&amp;#39;m thinking it best to  :joker:  stick with my original comment.

You know I&amp;#39;m just kidding anyway. Oh, as to your comment on another thread regarding school commitments versus swim meets....If you just yank &amp;#39;em out of school and bring &amp;#39;em along, what conflict?&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: "Fat" swimmers</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/70593?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:05:17 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:afde1ab0-61e2-4fd6-bd6d-44a46e85763d</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Swimmers have the best bodies - healthy and athletic. Hands down. Men and women.


I&amp;#39;ll second that.  Although given some of the women I swim with, I sometimes have to struggle to keep my hands down.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: "Fat" swimmers</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/71026?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 12:34:10 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:04f9af14-6d95-49f9-b8d7-d1084d2775be</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Neighhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!   :rofl:

Now quit horsin&amp;#39; around &amp;#39;Geek.
Hay, I know... let&amp;#39;s make up a poem about Masters Clydesdale divisions!
(I still want to know about THAT poetry thread I apparently missed out on!  :p

THAT poetry thread is the &amp;quot;Meaning of Swimming&amp;quot; thread that was resurrected for some time and had some nice poems.  There was a lot of activity on Valentine&amp;#39;s Day, which was appreciated by all but one.  Check out the &amp;quot;Women are Trouble&amp;quot; thread too.  Some good tidbits and humor.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: "Fat" swimmers</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/70904?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 11:50:34 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:e02117c6-7a75-4127-87fc-d563e19ba7f2</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>This would describe a goodly majority of female posters.

Seems like a broad generalization to me.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: "Fat" swimmers</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/70838?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 11:48:33 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:ca4c2f9e-803c-42f4-bbb5-b9d25dee1663</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Broad: woman who is both beautiful, strong, and takes no crap from the men around her (definition is from all those old movies from the 40s and 50s).  Gangsters had lots of broads.  

This would describe a goodly majority of female posters.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: "Fat" swimmers</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/70765?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 11:39:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:1fe5a9b4-381e-4810-b0fa-04fff3264ead</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Have any of you folks done open water swims. There it seems the fatter swimmers are usually faster. I think this is because the real buff guys (and gals) are serious triathletes often while the more blubbery ones are usually just swimmers and have much better technique.

A comment after my own heart since I am one of those blubbery ones with terrific technique (thank the Lord for that one or I would be toast).  And a lot of OW swimmers carry a lot more weight than you skinny pool people do; we seem to need it as the miles go by plus a shark might think twice before taking a bite of us because we are large.

Broad: woman who is both beautiful, strong, and takes no crap from the men around her (definition is from all those old movies from the 40s and 50s).  Gangsters had lots of broads.  

Karen: I would be honored to swim in a Clydesdale Division as I have been called both this and an Athena here on our forum in the past.  After the shock of it, I realized it was a compliment!!!  And Clydesdales are beautiful even if the Geek fears this new, possible category.  Especially, if some Clydesdale&amp;#39;s can whip people&amp;#39;s behinds in a swim race.  Love that thought.:drink:&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: "Fat" swimmers</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/70692?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 09:24:01 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:e01a34eb-2924-4478-8969-cadd43153385</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Have any of you folks done open water swims. There it seems the fatter swimmers are usually faster. I think this is because the real buff guys (and gals) are serious triathletes often while the more blubbery ones are usually just swimmers and have much better technique.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: "Fat" swimmers</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/71004?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 08:31:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:dd388457-4eac-4f1f-a6c4-57e9da88b888</guid><dc:creator>Karen Duggan</dc:creator><description>Neighhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!   :rofl:

Now quit horsin&amp;#39; around &amp;#39;Geek.
Hay, I know... let&amp;#39;s make up a poem about Masters Clydesdale divisions!
(I still want to know about THAT poetry thread I apparently missed out on!  :p&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: "Fat" swimmers</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/70988?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 08:07:37 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:a7679e11-39ba-4e5b-914e-094f17aff2f7</guid><dc:creator>aquageek</dc:creator><description>And Clydesdales are beautiful even if the Geek fears this new, possible category.  Especially, if some Clydesdale&amp;#39;s can whip people&amp;#39;s behinds in a swim race. 

All a Clydesdale division would do is water down Masters swimming in general.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: "Fat" swimmers</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/70968?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 08:01:02 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:83fa4e3a-8dbf-4687-ad6f-b4732dc14c07</guid><dc:creator>Karen Duggan</dc:creator><description>Those Clydesdale divisions can be tricky. My niece, who turned 24 the other day, is 6&amp;#39; 3&amp;quot; and about 185 pounds. She played college basketball and doesn&amp;#39;t have an ounce of fat on her. (Albeit her younger sister has called her a fathead among other things!) Big she is, fat she ain&amp;#39;t!&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: "Fat" swimmers</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/70751?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 07:23:01 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:fdaa8eb7-72b8-4d43-81ee-2a7d4b9b397c</guid><dc:creator>Karen Duggan</dc:creator><description>That settles it, open water for me! ;)  Do they have Clydesdale divisions for that too?  :p

(Kari and Beth that&amp;#39;s your cue, if you wanna&amp;#39; make a little moola- get it MOO-la?) :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  Hey, that&amp;#39;s what I look like after too many drinks!!!&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: "Fat" swimmers</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/70680?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 03:32:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:db2bfc50-9607-403e-aba8-56bbbb3717e5</guid><dc:creator>The Fortress</dc:creator><description>Jim? Are you there? (***, ***, ***- knocking on computer screen)
Helloooooooooooo ;)

You are killing me, Karen.  OK, I give up.  Let&amp;#39;s here what a &amp;quot;broad&amp;quot; is Jim.  ***.  ***.  ***. :rofl:&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: "Fat" swimmers</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/70267?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 16:58:55 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:1ce16c5b-f57c-4527-bd46-67866c1b9f47</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>:rofl:Good one; this would be worse than adding a Clydesdale Division of which I am a member.  And many of us Clydesdales do swim pretty fast; like Jim mentioned about fat floats but streamlining could be a problem !:rofl:  I guess when a fatter swimmer beats a thinner swimmer it can seem unbelievable to some.  The question of How comes to mind.  And I have that answer.

donna

Amen Donna!  Plus being a curvy gal does have its advantages....the male lifeguards seem to flock by my lane when I&amp;#39;m swimming back stroke.  :dunno:&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: "Fat" swimmers</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/70110?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 16:16:28 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:540b89f3-11e8-455b-b358-898a282b0963</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I&amp;#39;ve noticed a big difference myself when I&amp;#39;m at ~185 versus the current 200. Must be leftover &amp;quot;holiday weight&amp;quot;. From 2003....?

My holiday weight was left over from 1984, after spending two years living in Europe learning how to eat well and plentifully.

One must practice anything if one expects to get good at it!

-- mel&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: "Fat" swimmers</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/70025?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 16:11:25 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:02eb5b6b-0881-43e6-bdad-87b8eaabe0f4</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>2003, the year, not the weight.  :rofl:


Jim, :rofl::rofl:&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: "Fat" swimmers</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/69943?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 16:07:34 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:7b33960c-479b-4e1e-9e62-b6e80636114a</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>.....in addition to the usual races, adding races for &amp;quot;butterfrog.&amp;quot;

:rofl:Good one; this would be worse than adding a Clydesdale Division of which I am a member.  And many of us Clydesdales do swim pretty fast; like Jim mentioned about fat floats but streamlining could be a problem !:rofl:  I guess when a fatter swimmer beats a thinner swimmer it can seem unbelievable to some.  The question of How comes to mind.  And I have that answer.

donna&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: "Fat" swimmers</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/69854?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 16:00:17 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:feab2d06-0f4c-4a6c-92b6-8f7a5257815e</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Adipose tissue (aka: &amp;quot;fat&amp;quot;) tends to float easier. You don&amp;#39;t need to expend as much energy as lean body types trying to stay &amp;quot;up&amp;quot; in the water. Streamlining tends to more of a challenge however.

This is an interesting point, Jim.  After I lost substantial weight, my breaststroke body positioning didn&amp;#39;t feel right.  On the other hand, my freestyle position felt much better.  I&amp;#39;m presuming that it was the change in fatty tissues in the upper body that accounted for the difference.  I&amp;#39;ve had to re-learn breaststroke and freestyle due to these changes.

-- mel&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: "Fat" swimmers</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/69753?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:25:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:7595d023-6903-437a-b363-05d31b0cb9c1</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Originally Posted by knelson: 

I&amp;#39;d say the same goes for the fastest male masters swimmers. Can anyone think of any super fast men who are substantially overweight? I can&amp;#39;t.

I can:  Manuel Sanguily, now in the 70-74 age group.  Cuban Olympian and USMS record holder in the breaststroke many times.  Since I first saw him in about 1993, I would say he has been definitely overweight with or without reference to the statistical tables.  Nevertheless, he can still motor!  

When I was 35 pounds heavier, he was my role model.  Now that I&amp;#39;m thinner and can&amp;#39;t swim any faster I don&amp;#39;t have a role model.

-- mel&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: "Fat" swimmers</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/69625?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 14:48:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:9e98a519-4536-4e45-bd7b-1a91bce10ee7</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Misread your post.  I thought you said it was Geek who called you a Clydesdale and I was actually going to defend his honor.  Egad.  
 
If we are going to comment on &amp;quot;hot&amp;quot; swimmers, I&amp;#39;m just going to say my twin is &amp;quot;hot.&amp;quot;  Skinny with long legs.  FlyQueen is pretty &amp;quot;hot&amp;quot; too.  Rich&amp;#39;s calves are hot with no fat whatsoever.  I know this is a body part, but I assume I can make this comment since breaststrokers are supposed to have diamond calves according to Wayne.


Sounds like you have a lot of hot friends there Les!  I guess old well fed hippie geeks aren&amp;#39;t exactly hot though LOL!  (I&amp;#39;m only teasing now Les...You can&amp;#39;t name all of your hot friends now right LOL!)....But at least I fit the category of &amp;quot;fat&amp;quot; swimmer....None of the others you listed are anywhere close to fat....So how about semi-hot (or at least not elephant man hideous) friends that are also...well let just say &amp;quot;well fed&amp;quot;? LOL!


Newmastersswimmer&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: "Fat" swimmers</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/69540?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 14:32:07 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:43ea4a53-6bb6-4383-8310-24414164f777</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>One of my good friends is diabetic and looks &amp;#39;fat&amp;#39; and out of shape.  Everyone seems to assume he&amp;#39;ll be really slow, but he often beats them.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: "Fat" swimmers</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/70238?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 12:24:37 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:6d9c3bdd-400f-4249-bc67-575722fcc256</guid><dc:creator>swimr4life</dc:creator><description>I am NOT hot. Trust me on this one.

Karen is one hot mama with a gorgeous smile!&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: "Fat" swimmers</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/70206?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 12:23:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:e80c249c-42d3-45f6-8b14-6ed93740574d</guid><dc:creator>swimr4life</dc:creator><description>Misread your post.  I thought you said it was Geek who called you a Clydesdale and I was actually going to defend his honor.  Egad.  
 
If we are going to comment on &amp;quot;hot&amp;quot; swimmers, I&amp;#39;m just going to say my twin is &amp;quot;hot.&amp;quot;  Skinny with long legs.  FlyQueen is pretty &amp;quot;hot&amp;quot; too.  Rich&amp;#39;s calves are hot with no fat whatsoever.  I know this is a body part, but I assume I can make this comment since breaststrokers are supposed to have diamond calves according to Wayne.

Leslie, you are too kind. Thanks for the compliment. I&amp;#39;m feeling rather &amp;quot;fluffy&amp;quot; right now due to being out of the water for a week and a half with the flu, making 3 workouts, then going on vacation for a week! Its back to the pool to try to lose the fluffiness....too much indulging on vacation!&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: "Fat" swimmers</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/69989?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 12:08:38 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:f40991c0-deb7-4a60-977e-2454e420d38b</guid><dc:creator>Jim Clemmons</dc:creator><description>2003, the year, not the weight.  :rofl:&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>