Geek vs. Gull II, or why I now idolize the Geek and have embraced TI

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Former Member — Wed, 31 Jan 2007 17:15:36 GMT

By the way, in case anyone was wondering, I'm the good looking one. For the record...I wasn't wondering... :drink:

RE: Geek vs. Gull II, or why I now idolize the Geek and have embraced TI

Former Member — Wed, 31 Jan 2007 17:11:38 GMT

By the way, in case anyone was wondering, I'm the good looking one.

RE: Geek vs. Gull II, or why I now idolize the Geek and have embraced TI

Former Member — Wed, 31 Jan 2007 13:27:22 GMT

Kristina as my Nemesis I think you're way out of my league. The Muse idea might work though. Can I call you "Special K?" What did I do to have you get the G-Men onto me? They won't taunt me...they've been reading the forums and realise I'm working on my freestyle now... LOL:D No way am I out of your league! You're miles ahead on the creative avatar. And the way you are dropping time by the seconds. . . you'll have me beat in no time! :bow: Special K is just fine. It's better than Krispy (another common nick name of mine - not sure why). Hmmm. . . just looked up muse online. I'm certainly not at that level (I was thinking more Sharon Stone in her 40s in the movie The Muse where she annoys everyone). . . How about I send positive throughts your way and do "The Perfect Cheer" for you when we meet at nationals or another masters meet - for inspiration or at least a good laugh? :D I think that is the extent of my "musing" abilities - *A*Musing at best. . .

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aquageek — Wed, 31 Jan 2007 12:45:45 GMT

Guys......get back to the trash talk, baiting, sarcasm that we all know and love....and soon! All the nicey nice is wearing on me as well. Having one of the Smiths point it out makes it even worse. I guess I'll have to go back to making fun of the whiney, sorrow-laden Smith and his fear of foreign swimmers - boo flippin' hoo.

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Paul Smith — Wed, 31 Jan 2007 12:39:18 GMT

OK.....something is VERY wrong here; The Geek & Gull having a little "love fest"....sorry I don't buy it! A picture of the Geek.....gotta be a fake! Guys......get back to the trash talk, baiting, sarcasm that we all know and love....and soon!

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Former Member — Wed, 31 Jan 2007 12:24:36 GMT

I'd like to volunteer to be your not so secret nemesis! I'll let you name the event, time, and place. I seriously hope it's not breaststroke. But, oh well. . . I know you're on this *** kick. Sigh. BTW, would being your swimming muse pay better? Kristina as my Nemesis I think you're way out of my league. The Muse idea might work though. Can I call you "Special K?" I admire the brazen trash talk and sarcasm too, but does Geek have to pick on some poor guy with a shoulder injury? I can think of other worthy victims to pick on .......... like SwimStud. What did I do to have you get the G-Men onto me? They won't taunt me...they've been reading the forums and realise I'm working on my freestyle now... LOL:D

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Former Member — Wed, 31 Jan 2007 12:04:13 GMT

OK, its time to set the record straight! Smith maximus, above, has claimed that real rivals should NOT engage in mutual admiration. This is like the pot calling the kettle black. I had the chance to train next to the infamous Smith Bros (max and min) last summer and would like to point out a couple of things I noticed. First of all they were extremely polite. No one trying to get in front of the other one getting into the pool. No indeed. It was the old Alphonse & Gaston routine: "After you, Alphonse Smith." "No, you first, my dear Gaston Smith." Why these guys don't even spit in each other's lanes, a tradition well-revered among other famous Colorado swimmers, as you all may recall. Let's clear the air on this one. These guys couldn't start a fight in the middle of a barroom brawl. -- mel

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Former Member — Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:34:08 GMT

...does anyone want to be my secret or not so secret nemesis? :dunno: LOL I'd like to volunteer to be your not so secret nemesis! I'll let you name the event, time, and place. I seriously hope it's not breaststroke. But, oh well. . . I know you're on this *** kick. Sigh. BTW, would being your swimming muse pay better? Gull and Geek - loved hearing this story and seeing the pic. :)

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The Fortress — Wed, 31 Jan 2007 07:05:12 GMT

A picture of the Geek.....gotta be a fake! Guys......get back to the trash talk, baiting, sarcasm that we all know and love....and soon! Well, I for one, think they were both very fit and good looking. That is, however, not a binding legal admission. I admire the brazen trash talk and sarcasm too, but does Geek have to pick on some poor guy with a shoulder injury? I can think of other worthy victims to pick on .......... like SwimStud. Well, I see Mel has busted the Smiths. The shoe size banter is just for the forum. I wish Smith Maximus a speedy recover so I can see him say "you first, my dear" to Paul before the 50 free at Nats.

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Former Member — Mon, 29 Jan 2007 17:53:19 GMT

It's healthy rivalries of this sort that can move us to examine more aspects of how we swim and how our practice relates to our racing goals. While the title of the thread was clearly tongue-in-cheek, there is a tie in with Terry's point about process vs. outcome. Our coach emphasizes negative splitting to the extent that he cares as much about how we swim a race as the actual time. Not only was it my fastest 500 as a Masters swimmer, but it was also the best split 500 I'd ever done (31+/33/33/33/33/33/33/33/33/32). Geek takes his races out faster than I do, so I thought I might catch him on the last 100. It was also the first time I'd raced a 500 breathing bilaterally, something I'd been training to do.

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Former Member — Mon, 29 Jan 2007 17:09:29 GMT

No way was I gonna blow it out with Starbucks on the line! You sound like my wife! Congrats to both of you. :applaud: :woot: It's things like this that encourage you to continue pushing yourself in practice.

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Former Member — Mon, 29 Jan 2007 16:35:37 GMT

The best part of the weekend was seeing my pal Gull in incredible shape, swimming fast and looking good. We had a great time and the meet was again fantastic. We saw a 34 year old fellow go 20.93 in the 50 free which is fast (to me anyway). Once and for all, here are the Speedo kings of NC. I was at that meet in Charlotte too. That guy was awesome that swam the 20.93 his kick was incredible. What heat did you guys swim the 500? I was in the first heat and got 2nd with a 5:19, not a best time but I swam the 100 free right before it.

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Former Member — Mon, 29 Jan 2007 16:24:35 GMT

...does anyone want to be my secret or not so secret nemesis? :dunno: LOL

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Former Member — Mon, 29 Jan 2007 13:53:00 GMT

The Geek and I swam head to head this weekend, matching up in the 200 and 500 (in adjacent lanes for both, believe it or not). The Geek won both, beating me by about a second in the 200 and I believe 3 or 4 seconds in the 500. He'd shed 20 pounds since we last raced and shaved (as I did), but he was not wearing a Fastskin. I did swim a personal (Masters) best in the 500, nearly 5 seconds faster than last year, and split it extremely well, but alas it wasn't enough. As the winner, he walked off with a Starbucks gift card and of course this thread. See you in Austin in 2008, Geek. Grats to Geek. Gull very humble of you to post this accolade...unless it was part of a wager. Well done on your PB too.

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aquageek — Mon, 29 Jan 2007 11:55:09 GMT

We were in the same heat along with you. The first heat is funny in the 500 because you might have pretty significant time variations before the subsequent heats sort of even times out. For instance, you got me by 13 seconds, congrats. I think I heard your bell as I was coming off the 425 turn, which was somewhat discouraging. I cruised the 100 knowing it was right before the 500. No way was I gonna blow it out with Starbucks on the line!

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Muppet — Mon, 29 Jan 2007 11:21:30 GMT

It's healthy rivalries of this sort that can move us to examine more aspects of how we swim and how our practice relates to our racing goals. Amen brother! When I first started swimming, this guy, lets call him EddieTheEaglesFan, was swimming with us, and he was a pretty good swimmer and kind of taunted me about me being 18/19/20 and slower than he. It got me motivated pretty good, and I was gunning for him in the 200 free. When I finally beat him, I destroyed him, and though he was peeved, he was very gracious in admitting I worked hard for it and deserved it. Next target: Ellis, sprinter by nature, becoming distance swimmer by age (~12 years my senior). We started gunning for some ambitious 500 times in '04. Whatever time he went, I was 3-5 sec behind; to make matters more exciting, the next meet we swam, I'd finish with his times from the previous meet and he would just continue the 3-5 second domination. Nationals, he busted out a 5:03, I went a 5:12, which is right about his zone time. '05 was an interesting year. We were both gunning for sub 5-min. Pretty much every meet, I would take the lead through the 400, only to be overtaken at the end EVERY TIME (the sprinter in him taking over). I became known as Ellis' Bizzatch (less friendly term), and his overtaking became known as "EB'ing." At '05 nationals, he swam about 20 minutes before I did, lowered his '04 time to a 5:01.93. I of course wanted to beat Ellis, but also wanted to get that 4:59.99. Gunned it and swam like a bat out of hell. Finished 5:01.... 81! YAY!! We're still gunning for that 4:59.99, pushing each other to the edge to try to get it. :dedhorse:

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Former Member — Mon, 29 Jan 2007 10:15:03 GMT

I had a second, and much worse, shoulder surgery and am taking it very slow. You have been missed. I might have been able to take down the Geek had you been there cheering me on. Good luck with rehab. Remember, it's a long season.

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Former Member — Mon, 29 Jan 2007 10:12:39 GMT

Where have you been lately anyway? Watching you swim is infinitely more exciting than watching my version of swimming. I had a second, and much worse, shoulder surgery and am taking it very slow.

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Former Member — Mon, 29 Jan 2007 10:02:27 GMT

geek, gull, thanks for sharing the lead up to and results of your race. next time, i will be sure to get my wager in before post time.

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aquageek — Mon, 29 Jan 2007 09:03:08 GMT

RE: Geek vs. Gull II, or why I now idolize the Geek and have embraced TI

Former Member — Mon, 29 Jan 2007 08:34:30 GMT

aquageek are you doing the meet in durham at the end of march?

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Former Member — Mon, 29 Jan 2007 08:23:01 GMT

I will be one of your nemesises in the 100 or 200 fly. We can race middle distance freestyle or backstroke events if you want....or the 100 IM. Newmastersswimmer I don't fly or crawl...I am not an insect. I can lay on my back when I'm sleeping. Why do it in the water except when you need a break I do breaststroke. :thhbbb: Seriously though. I'm getting to work on crawl next, then fly, then back. I think a little of all is good for any swimmer. I'll let you know how I do when I can hack 200 free.

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Former Member — Mon, 29 Jan 2007 08:13:28 GMT

I swam a 5:35--the splits were 33+. Thanks. Good job to the both of you. Wish I could have been there screaming for the both of you.

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Former Member — Mon, 29 Jan 2007 07:29:36 GMT

Those splits seem to add up to something just under 5:30. Very impressive. I swam a 5:35--the splits were 33+. Thanks.

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Former Member — Mon, 29 Jan 2007 07:11:03 GMT

...does anyone want to be my secret or not so secret nemesis? posted by the British Blowfish I will be one of your nemesises in the 100 or 200 fly Rich if you want.....but NO breasstroke for me....The only amount of breasstroke I'm willing to do anymore is the 25 breaststroke that comes in a 100 IM. Its not just because I hate breaststroke.....it has more to do with the damage to me knees (my left knee in particular). We can race middle distance freestyle or backstroke events if you want....or the 100 IM. Newmastersswimmer p.s. Good swims Gull and Geek....Nice to see the rivalry between you guys is still going strong. Isn't Geek younger than you though Gull?