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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://community.usms.org/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Whining - Comparing Aches and Pains</title><link>https://community.usms.org/swimming/f/general/4777/whining---comparing-aches-and-pains</link><description>I propose a thread honoring old age in which each person lists their current physical ailments and general excuses that prevent them from beating people like Paul Smith and Rich Saeger.

I will lead with a growing list of my own.

 1. Shoulder pain</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 12</generator><item><title>RE: Whining - Comparing Aches and Pains</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/64648?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 05:31:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:34fc21fa-40d9-4817-96b4-1d3b9149e25c</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>1).  I&amp;#39;m blind in one eye and can&amp;#39;t see out of the other.
 
2).  I&amp;#39;m deaf but I don&amp;#39;t care what most people say anyhow.
 
Other than that its just another Monday and I can&amp;#39;t wait to get out of the office and into the pool.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Whining - Comparing Aches and Pains</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/64583?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 05:06:34 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:9ec1bb2d-dfdf-4ff6-b691-a8bbfccff983</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Careless Doctors - Chuckie in Pain.

Chuckie had her cast removed last week, our doctor was off for a week and the replacement doctor was on duty. They took her to a room in the office where they remove casts etc. The doctor said to Chuckie don&amp;#39;t be afraid of this saw, it looks like a buzz saw but it will not hurt.

The doctor proceeded and Chuckie said ouch a few times she was in terrible pain. She told the doctor it was burnig. The doctor assured her it would not cut her.  The cast was removed and she had 5 nicks in her arm. Three on the outer forearm and two on the inner part of the arm.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Whining - Comparing Aches and Pains</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/64372?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:35:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:d008c64a-bbb5-4d05-ac9c-1924d0216d29</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Weddings what are you complaining about my one daughter 3 big weddings. Thank godness she got married the 4th time in Las Vegas.

Aother daughter 2 big weddings, the first was 500 sat down for the meal and they where heavy drinkers (Commercial Fishermen). 

My one daughter knew how to do it. She sent me an email at Christmas saying &amp;quot;Marry Christmas&amp;quot; they got married Christmas day and I was in Mexico.


The worst thing that happened to me I was at my Niece&amp;#39;s wedding and the caterer came up to me and presented me with the bill for the food. My sister always used her maiden name and the caterer thought I was my sisters husband and the bill was for over $50,000. I soon pointed out her husband.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Whining - Comparing Aches and Pains</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/64309?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:28:36 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:37ac716b-8d54-437e-9ee8-ae293d79b8c4</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Lets see --- 2 hips replacements, the last one in may of 07 , 2 weeks after the state meet, 2 sore shoulders from tooo much fly &amp;amp; paddles, Morton&amp;#39;s neurome in my left foot - itchy skin , too much pool time &amp;amp; my daughter is going to get married soon $$$$$$$ But I love it!:wave:
 
ooh i get itchy right at the join between my little toe and the next one up.. no signs of a rash or broken skin... not getting worse or better... Is that what you have?&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Whining - Comparing Aches and Pains</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/64221?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:16:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:f1c7bd89-4de8-4794-9c9f-e0904ca2b22c</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Start with your hands by your side. Picture the clock on the floor and your head is &amp;quot;12:00&amp;quot; so you raise your arms slightly further apart than shoulder width. (at 10 and 2).
If you roll your shoulders right when swimming the spot you are talking about is directly over your head and reads 12 oclock.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Whining - Comparing Aches and Pains</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/64117?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:57:13 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:b22b0237-dabb-4994-97cd-be9da86a083d</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I know what you mean I raced 100 fly and 100 free and a couple of relays with a green fracture in the ankle. They wrapped my ankle in a tensure bandage.

My comment was for perpetual whinners not strong willed people like you.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Whining - Comparing Aches and Pains</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/63987?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:47:06 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:fdff30e0-6bbd-4332-81f0-cb0b7d44f5bd</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Keep your feet and hands inside the pool. Don&amp;#39;t try to swim too fast and you will never get hurt.

If you break a bone get a cast on it stay out of the water for up to six weeks.

If you have a cut go back to your doctor in two weeks, stay out of the water til the healing is done.

If you have a pain take a couple of Tylenol 3s every 4 hrs, be careful they bung you up.

Doctor says stay out of the water. Do what he says.

Dr George says throw those Monofins in the garbage.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Whining - Comparing Aches and Pains</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/64477?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 12:57:49 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:02e14197-47b2-4dd5-853f-f20e275e97d7</guid><dc:creator>The Fortress</dc:creator><description>my orthopod is on speed dial!!!

When I phoned my ortho today to make an appointment, the receptionist asked if this was yet another &amp;quot;new&amp;quot; injury.  lol&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Whining - Comparing Aches and Pains</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/64451?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 12:51:16 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:bcc28b34-76d5-4825-8ff6-5fa2de82d07f</guid><dc:creator>Trichica</dc:creator><description>Hmmm, let&amp;#39;s see, I am always injured, but you will see why I never heal.
 
Last Thrusday mid day, my left lat starts to hurt, then it moves up to my neck.  By Thrusday evening, I could not turn my head.  Take muscle relaxants from prior injury (yes, I know bad girl) and go to sleep.
 
Woke up friday morning worse.  Could not even lift myself up out of bed.  So on Friday, did not make masters long course practice. :mad:
 
Go to work and then I have the perfect excuse for a massage!!!!!!:bump:
 
Saturday, wake up feeling better.  I think then I may be able to run rather than Saturday&amp;#39;s 2 hour long course masters practice.  Go to gym and think, hey you can still do leg weights and hit every machine for legs.  Now, I have an excuse not to run!:applaud:
 
Sunday, better, still cannot fully turn my neck, I run 5 miles.
 
Monday get half way thru masters--have to bail shoulder still not right.
 
Tuesday, leg weights and run 4 miles.  Today FINALLY SWIM AT MASTERS.  Oh yeah, lat still sore and doing a swim clinic tonight.
 
So if you ask me if I am injured--all the time something hurts.  Last year tore the arch of my foot after running thru the pain for months.
 
Can you say stupidly addicted????
 
I figure since I am loading up the legs (also to get a stronger kick), my legs will be injured any day now.......................my orthopod is on speed dial!!!
 
Claudia&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Whining - Comparing Aches and Pains</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/64297?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 11:24:06 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:cb1c0bbf-f119-4fea-8d7b-3c025a070823</guid><dc:creator>orca1946</dc:creator><description>Lets see --- 2 hips replacements, the last one in may of 07  ,  2 weeks after the state meet, 2 sore shoulders from tooo much fly &amp;amp; paddles, Morton&amp;#39;s neurome in my left foot - itchy skin ,   too much pool time &amp;amp; my daughter is  going to get married soon $$$$$$$ But I love it!:wave:&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Whining - Comparing Aches and Pains</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/64201?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 10:58:08 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:8dd2dcce-f60a-40a3-955a-2112daed41a5</guid><dc:creator>The Fortress</dc:creator><description>Dr George says throw those Monofins in the garbage.

Never!

No reason not to swim at all.  I just may be Julie&amp;#39;s twin soon.  Can&amp;#39;t let that interfere with the trash talk though.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Whining - Comparing Aches and Pains</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/64087?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 10:51:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:e542620c-3419-43e1-8d77-03d0ea396de3</guid><dc:creator>Julie Roddin</dc:creator><description>If you break a bone get a cast on it stay out of the water for up to six weeks.
 
Doctor says stay out of the water. Do what he says.

 
Oops...but my ortho said I could swim anytime I wanted, just to be careful.  Guess you wouldn&amp;#39;t approve of the 4,000 yards I did last night, huh?&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Whining - Comparing Aches and Pains</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/64549?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 03:17:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:2a64f369-8f30-490c-bd00-0bef741bf344</guid><dc:creator>Trichica</dc:creator><description>When I phoned my ortho today to make an appointment, the receptionist asked if this was yet another &amp;quot;new&amp;quot; injury. lol
 
LOL  My ortho is a surgeon at the same hospital as my brother.  My brother asked me once how many times I see or speak to the ortho (who is also a friend of my brother&amp;#39;s).  I asked why.  My brother said because he always has some training story about you!!!!
 
My brotehr then said, I just keep telling him that you are insane!&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Whining - Comparing Aches and Pains</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/64521?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 01:40:01 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:54e8bada-0f86-43c1-ab42-8b04250935a0</guid><dc:creator>ande</dc:creator><description>are you injury prone 

When I phoned my ortho today to make an appointment, the receptionist asked if this was yet another &amp;quot;new&amp;quot; injury.  lol&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Whining - Comparing Aches and Pains</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/63962?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 10:16:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:3d580736-0f28-4066-ab97-a4a4ee2011d1</guid><dc:creator>The Fortress</dc:creator><description>BUMP.

The top of my foot and toe hurt like hell.  I&amp;#39;m worried I have a first metatarsal stress fracture.  Going to ortho.  Sh*t.  :bitching:  I&amp;#39;m worried about monofin deprivation.  Is it possible to get a stress fracture from monofin use as opposed to just running?!  Or is it the combination that&amp;#39;s deadly?  My toe hurts in the exact spot that I dropped my monofin on it too.

I also have a funny bump on the top of my foot under the skin.  I&amp;#39;m worried it&amp;#39;s a bursa sac.  

On the other hand, I&amp;#39;ve been sleeping well.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Whining - Comparing Aches and Pains</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/63850?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 14:37:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:4fb018b0-42ee-4657-82e3-5625d128ed1e</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>YEAH! By George I think you&amp;#39;ve got it! :agree: :groovy: 
 
Start with your hands by your side. Picture the clock on the floor and your head is &amp;quot;12:00&amp;quot; so you raise your arms slightly further apart than shoulder width. (at 10 and 2).
 
Thank you for your patience.:bow: 
 
I apologize to all other posters for Hijacking the thread, but I really need this!
 
I will start my RC exercises at lunch today.:groovy:&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Whining - Comparing Aches and Pains</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/63733?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:12:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:51e3890f-9b6d-4fc7-b373-96682240e9cb</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I think I got it.  The clock is as if you are looking down on the top of my head for the 10 and 2.  Arms in front and slightly wider than shoulder width.  Now I just raise my arms in front of me to parallel.  Do I start with my hands by my side or already out so its a straight rise to 10 and 2?&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Whining - Comparing Aches and Pains</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/63715?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:43:55 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:a2beb783-9f68-47cf-99f0-7beded40e955</guid><dc:creator>swimr4life</dc:creator><description>OK, I&amp;#39;m not flapping my arms up and down; I doing a standing, straight arm chest fly:dunno: !?!

No...I guess I&amp;#39;m not explaining it right. Start with your arms at your side. Lift your hands and arms forward, in front of your body until they are parallel with the floor. Then lower them. That is one rep. 

Did that help?:(&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Whining - Comparing Aches and Pains</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/63944?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 10:40:45 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:fea0205e-a6d6-46da-93c3-d1437f59080f</guid><dc:creator>swimr4life</dc:creator><description>Thank you for your patience.:bow: 
 
I apologize to all other posters for Hijacking the thread, but I really need this!
 
I will start my RC exercises at lunch today.:groovy: 


YEAH!!!! You are quite welcome. I&amp;#39;m sorry if I sound preachy...I just don&amp;#39;t want anyone to go through shoulder problems like I have. It&amp;#39;s close to a passion for me!  I&amp;#39;m going right now to do my RC exercises ...:dedhorse:&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Whining - Comparing Aches and Pains</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/63817?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 10:26:59 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:e81b2fce-a2fd-4599-ab66-6153e5d0378f</guid><dc:creator>swimr4life</dc:creator><description>I think I got it.  The clock is as if you are looking down on the top of my head for the 10 and 2.  Arms in front and slightly wider than shoulder width.  Now I just raise my arms in front of me to parallel.  Do I start with my hands by my side or already out so its a straight rise to 10 and 2?

YEAH! By George I think you&amp;#39;ve got it! :agree: :groovy: 

Start with your hands by your side. Picture the clock on the floor and your head is &amp;quot;12:00&amp;quot; so you raise your arms slightly further apart than shoulder width. (at 10 and 2).&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Whining - Comparing Aches and Pains</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/63309?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 16:02:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:19965b8a-0e11-4f0e-a820-cba6df44ea80</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Beth:
 
Thanx, I&amp;#39;ll give these a try and see if I can get to the PT.
 
My wife has said that since swimming, my shoulders do roll forward.  I was going to try some weights to balance the muscles.  I assumed I should do Flat Bench and inclined bench; the Pec Deck; and torso pull over and stay away from lat and back exercises (Pull downs, rows, or military press).  
 
Am I backwards on this and making things worse?  I don&amp;#39;t have a big chest and I thought the free style just worked the lats, back, Triceps, and Delts, and very little chest.:confused: 
 
Do you know a good work out plan that will help with muscle imbalance?:bow:&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Whining - Comparing Aches and Pains</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/63181?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 14:36:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:b2c54ac8-f011-4c27-a11e-9d03876f4af8</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Whoa! That was scary! We posted our last comments at the same time!!!
 
THATS GREAT NEWS BILL!!!!:banana: Did your doctor want to try PT? The rc exercises really work for me but, you may have something totally different wrong with your shoulder. You really need a PT to examine you and prescribe the correct exercises.
 
about stretching...I always swim about 500 yds easy THEN stretch.
 
My insurance isn&amp;#39;t an issue, but he may not have known it. He seemed tentative to order the MRI. He only mentioned the shots no other therapy. I did see a PT as part of the referral; she believes its a neck injury from the fall. She said that a C4or5 neck injury manifests in the upper arm. She had me use a rolled up towel under my neck while sleeping. That did lessen the pain in my lower arm a hand. I guess I go back to that for now.
 
I did do some searching and it seems the only warm up is swimming EZ. what stretches do you do? 
 
What Rotator Cuff exercises?  I need help!  Thanx!&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Whining - Comparing Aches and Pains</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/63074?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 14:21:38 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:ae578e12-8ae7-4044-b334-5b8e1e0ebe30</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>A lot of insurance companies require you to do the cheaper, less accurate tests first.....:shakeshead:
 
/rant on
 
yes because it would not do for them to actually honour the contract that you pay preimums for and so actually pay for your healthcare needs...
:dedhorse:  Clue: Insurance Companies hold the 4x2...we&amp;#39;re the horse...a
actually that horse looks like it is injured...perhaps it&amp;#39;s a pre-existing condition or the result of a traffic accident....
 
/rant off&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Whining - Comparing Aches and Pains</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/62955?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 14:07:06 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:a15f1faf-c66c-45fa-89f5-2a8c87f790f5</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I felt the same way until I had the surgery.....now I&amp;#39;d rather take time off from training than go under the knife! I had to take 2 1/2 months off from Dec. to late February this year! It was very hard...I missed swimming so badly!... but my shoulders are doing great now!:groovy:
 
Beth:
 
I got my results...No tears:groovy:  There is some fluid from the fall, but nothing needing surgery.  The Doc says he can treat it with shots (meaning cortisone).  I&amp;#39;ve heard bad things about them.  I see him again in 6 weeks and I hope to be better and not need any.
 
I will work it this week and do the anti-inflammatories/ice/heat like you suggest.  I taper next week, race on 5 May, then will work on recovery for the shoulder.  I believe it most resembles &amp;quot;Swimmers Shoulder&amp;quot; (at least some part of me thinks its a swimmer!).  I&amp;#39;ll try the stretches they showed in that thread.
 
I have rarely seen anyone warm up before getting in the pool--actually only one other person than me.
 
Does anyone out there, stretch or warm-up before getting in the water or after getting out?  I know Fort seems to rely heavily on the hot tub after the workout.  ;) 
 
Should I build time in for that or is ice better?
 
I have a stretching routine for running and biking, but swimming seem more like weight-lifting then just aerobic.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Whining - Comparing Aches and Pains</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/62870?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 13:54:36 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:a18788d9-4e1c-4b7c-9b2d-dfb6c7c39ae5</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>That&amp;#39;s how I am too. Did you get an arthrogram or a regular MRI?
 
Fort:  Regular MRI&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>