Pool time at Worlds on non-race days

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Frank Thompson — Tue, 27 Jun 2006 12:09:38 GMT

Just saw nice photo shots of the pools. Looks like there will be a lot space to warm up. www.chah2o.com/.../StanfordUniversity.aspx

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Rich Abrahams — Mon, 26 Jun 2006 05:46:40 GMT

Nancy, Thanks so much for your help. I'll be sure to touch base with Michael upon arrival. Now I just have to worry about swimming! Rich

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Allen Stark — Sun, 25 Jun 2006 10:31:30 GMT

That would be great.

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Paul Smith — Sun, 25 Jun 2006 02:18:09 GMT

Alan, the "places to swim" infrmation on this website (under "training" on the home page) is a great resource for what your looking for. I travel frequently and use this almost exclusively to find workouts......just be sure to contact the coach/pool prior to showing up, to confirm the info as well as make sue the coach is OK with a visitor.

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Nancy Ridout — Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:32:04 GMT

Allen and Rich, Rich, there will be an area for the handicapped or those who can't climb or walk distances. Please let Michael Moore know when you get there and he'll arrange for your wife to have access to the elevator and the viewing area above the pools. Allen, yes I could probably give you a list of pools in the area, but it won't be for awhile. I have the SC Top Ten to finish this week as well as registrations and World Championships responsibilities this week. So don't hold your breath. I'm sure there will be lists of available pools and times that they are open for us to train at check-in. Nancy

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Former Member — Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:11:35 GMT

I agree with Allen, there is nothing like a pending race to act as a diuretic.

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Allen Stark — Fri, 23 Jun 2006 11:00:40 GMT

Are we going to have to SIT in chairs the entire time? Anyone who has seen me at a meet knows I bounce and jump for 30 min before I swim as part of my warm up. Also I will probably need at least 3 emergency pit stops in that time.(Yes,I get really excited about swimming)

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Allen Stark — Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:17:48 GMT

I guess this is for Nancy or Michael. Could you post a list of pools in the area and their lap swim times for warmups?

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Former Member — Fri, 23 Jun 2006 07:35:42 GMT

Allen- again, in Brisbane, they let Allen Christiansen, the very fast Swedish breastroker do barely-in-control wind sprints in the hallway outside the marshalling area while the rest of us glowered at each other. Every few seconds you would see him blur by the door, extremely long hair trailing behind him as he zoomed back and forth. Kind of surreal...

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Nancy Ridout — Fri, 23 Jun 2006 01:19:19 GMT

Allen and Ian, You might want to start practicing not having to go to the bathroom 3 times in 30 minutes. That definitely won't work. No one is going to stand over you and make you sit in the chair; you'll be able to stand up or "bounce and jump" as long as you stay in the vicinity of your row. Actually, once you get into the marshalling area, you'll be moving up pretty quickly - and now I have to go to the bathroom! Nancy

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Former Member — Thu, 22 Jun 2006 11:36:43 GMT

All of this is necessary so John Smith won't miss his heat.

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Former Member — Thu, 22 Jun 2006 08:01:51 GMT

Frosty- based on my admittedly dated experience at Brisbane for the Worlds, you'll be 'marshalled' (sequestered) for at least half an hour with no access to pool, bathroom nor radar suppression munitions.

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Jeff Commings — Thu, 22 Jun 2006 05:05:22 GMT

Originally posted by Nancy Ridout International competition is much more structured in ways like this than USMS swimmers are used to. We are definitely more informal and loose about showing up behind the block before it's your turn to compete. Nancy Indeed. I went to a meet in Sydney, Australia, and it worked the same way, though they let you walk a few yards from the marshaling area to watch the meet or stretch somewhere else after you sign in. I can understand the reasons for it. It keeps the starting ends less crowded. It creates some sense of order. But I think 30 minutes is a bit long to be sitting in the marshaling area. I wonder how long the Olympians have to sit in the room before parading out. I think it's 15 minutes.

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Nancy Ridout — Thu, 22 Jun 2006 04:32:55 GMT

The credentials area will open as soon as the gate opens for warmups in the morning. You will get your picture taken, among other things, so be prepared for not being able to walk up to a table, pick up a goody bag, and walk out in the space of 2 minutes. It may take 5 or maybe more. Competitors will be called to marshalling area by heats, when the event before it is close to finishing. A certain number of heats will go into the marshalling area, after being checked in by the Clerk of Course (everyone will need to have his or her credentials with them at all times to get into the pool or the marshalling area). There will be 7 or 8 rows of 10 chairs. The competitors will sit in the seat corresponding to each one's lane number and move up a row each time the first row leaves to the rows of chairs behind the blocks - usually 2. You keep moving up until it's your turn to swim. There will be containers for your gear when you get to the row of chairs right behind the blocks. Fewer heats will be marshalled ahead of time for the longer events than for the sprints. But Frosty is right in that you should prepare to be in the area for about 30 minutes. You will not be allowed to leave to warmup but you may be able to convince the Clerk of Course that a pit stop is an emergency. Add the amount of time that you'll be anxious about not missing when your heat needs to report and standing around so you're there when it's called and you can add even more time to the 30. International competition is much more structured in ways like this than USMS swimmers are used to. We are definitely more informal and loose about showing up behind the block before it's your turn to compete. Nancy

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Frosty — Thu, 22 Jun 2006 01:44:56 GMT

Originally posted by Nancy Ridout ...You need to also understand that once an event is called, the swimmers will report to the marshalling area and from that point on no one will have access to them except the Clerk of the Course and the other competitors in the event. Not even those allowed to be on the deck will be able to be in that area. That is standard procedure at World Championships.... Hope this is a help. Nancy Nancy, At the risk of hijacking the thread, may I ask about how "marshalling" works? If you are entered in a long event like the 800 Free, does this mean that you'll be sitting around for a long time until it is time for your heat? Can you still warm up after you've been "marshalled"?

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Nancy Ridout — Wed, 21 Jun 2006 12:10:31 GMT

Joy, If you're getting in at 6:30pm, you wouldn't get to the pool until 7:30pm and we don't expect the days to last nearly that long, except maybe the 800m day which will be the most lengthy (but hopefully not that lengthy!). I would expect the credentialing to be open throughout the meet but not after it is over for the day. I'll check on that. My suggestion would be to arrive pretty early on Tuesday morning to get it done before your warmup and swim. Nancy

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phm41 — Wed, 21 Jun 2006 09:15:01 GMT

What time will the credentials desk open up in the mornings? I swim the first event on Saturday morning and get in too late Friday night to take care of it then.

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joy — Tue, 20 Jun 2006 10:19:07 GMT

Nancy Thank you for mentioning registering and getting your credentials. I have looked thru all the info in the books online and can not find where it states anything about when and where it is open to get this done. I will not be flying in until Monday nite at 6:30pm for swims on Tues. How do I get my credentials to swim before the Tues. AM. Thanz

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Former Member — Mon, 19 Jun 2006 16:38:15 GMT

Originally posted by Paul Smith So what does this mean if we are not swimming that day but have teamates that are and we want to be there and cheer for them? Or we simply want to hang out on deck with our friends......this seems like it culd be a real problem? I can't imagine people from I don´t know how many countries hanging out on deck to cheer their teamates.

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Rich Abrahams — Mon, 19 Jun 2006 12:42:46 GMT

Along these same lines, I have a couple of questions for Micheal or Nancy. Assuming pool deck access is restricted to only those competing on that particular day, what are the arrangements for spectators? Is there good viewing for both pools? Is there shade Are their accomodations for those with handicaps? And, if you're competing or not, what are the arrangements for hanging out / relaxing between events, etc. both on and around the deck and immediately outside the facility? Thanks for any answers, Rich

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Jeff Commings — Mon, 19 Jun 2006 12:00:17 GMT

Paul brings up a very good point. I hope they wouldn't keep us away from the pool on days we want to cheer for spouses/friends/teammates/idols. That said, I only have one day off, so it won't be much of an issue to me.

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Nancy Ridout — Mon, 19 Jun 2006 06:31:21 GMT

While the on deck accessibility is limited, there will be 25m bleacher seating on the grassy side of each competition pool. The bleachers will be close to the pool but there will be a barrier between them and the pool deck which can be accessed through a gate. There is permanent bleacher seating, that will be shaded, by the Avery pool - warmups and water polo. You need to also understand that once an event is called, the swimmers will report to the marshalling area and from that point on no one will have access to them except the Clerk of the Course and the other competitors in the event. Not even those allowed to be on the deck will be able to be in that area. That is standard procedure at World Championships. In addition to the bleacher seating, there is a lot of grassy area for blankets and tents outside the pool, a food court with lots of picnic tables and trees for shade, and I believe the basketball arena, air conditioned and just across from the pools, where you will register and get your crendentials, will be available during the meet. Rich, I will find out about designated areas for handicapped spectators. Hope this is a help. Nancy

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Allen Stark — Mon, 19 Jun 2006 03:13:32 GMT

After a great deal of cajoling I got my wife back into swimming and she's is going to Worlds. There are 2 days where she is swimming and I'm not. Do I have to register as a coach to be with her on the pool deck?(And I'm assuming it's to late to so register.)

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Former Member — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 14:46:45 GMT

What you have to do is documented here/ www.usms.org/.../lmsc_hb_rectab.pdf

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Former Member — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 14:24:10 GMT

Those are some of the reasons I have decided not to attend Worlds. Although a difficult decision, I feel I would not be able to swim my best out there. For me, length of time meet is to long for me to hold a good taper. Too many people and chaos of fighting for a good warmup and only being able to swim 5 events rather than the normal 6. Instead, I have opted to swim in a big USS meet 2nd week in July that I will use as my shave and taper meet. 6 events plus finals in evening gives me many swims over a 3 day period. I am not a big fan of long course, mainly because I do not train in a long course pool. However, times I have swam this summer unshaved and not tapered I think would have placed me ok. Times I have done thus far in 50 meter long course this season, 40-44 yr age 50 free - 25.8 100 free 57.1 200 free 2:05.3 400 free 4:24.50 1500 free 17:50 100 fly 1:00.12 200 fly 2:17.2 I guess another question I have is how can you and how do you go about submitting times from a USS meet to USMS to see if your in the top 10? Best of luck to everyone at Worlds, greg