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Former Member — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 09:41:40 GMT

Ziegler vs. Hoff may be the female version of Phelps vs. Lochte. Some incredible swims by the two ladies.

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Former Member — Sat, 08 Dec 2007 15:34:17 GMT

It's unfortunate if you're Kate Ziegler... I'm not. ;)

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Former Member — Sat, 08 Dec 2007 15:10:50 GMT

I don't know that I would say it's unfortunate. :dunno: It's unfortunate if you're Kate Ziegler...

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Former Member — Sat, 08 Dec 2007 15:07:18 GMT

Unfortunately on the same night where Ziegler went 4:32.71 in the 500...Katie Hoff went 4:30.47 down in Annapolis. (www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/.../16454.asp) Hoff also took ~11 seconds off of Ziegler's 1000 Free record on Friday night with a phenomenal 9:10.77. I don't know that I would say it's unfortunate. :dunno:

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Former Member — Sat, 08 Dec 2007 14:56:40 GMT

Kate Ziegler does it again. At the Tom Dolan Invitational at GMU, two new American Records: 500 free: 4:32.71 1650 free: 15:29.15 Awesome to watch! Unfortunately on the same night where Ziegler went 4:32.71 in the 500...Katie Hoff went 4:30.47 down in Annapolis. (www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/.../16454.asp) Hoff also took ~11 seconds off of Ziegler's 1000 Free record on Friday night with a phenomenal 9:10.77.

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The Fortress — Sat, 08 Dec 2007 09:31:48 GMT

Kate Ziegler does it again. At the Tom Dolan Invitational at GMU, two new American Records: 500 free: 4:32.71 1650 free: 15:29.15 Awesome to watch!

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Former Member — Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:09:28 GMT

Wow, I always knew she had this in her! Heck, if my memory is not going south, I think some guy named Tom posted that he thought she would eventually smash Janet Evans records, or at the least had one heck of a shot at doing so. Janet Evans was one the greatest swimmers ever, but seeing Kate Ziegler take down that record warms my heart. I knew she had it in her the first time I watched her swim. The human spirit is alive ....and still well..... Stillhere...

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Former Member — Mon, 18 Jun 2007 15:15:54 GMT

Kate Ziegler swam to her first World Record of her career by knocking off almost 10 seconds of the oldest World Record in swimming. Janet Evans time of 15:52.10 was set back in 1988. Janet Evans still has one World Record (800 FR LCM) and two American Records (400 - 800 FR LCM) still standing. I believe the 800 Free will be the last one to go. This swim by Ziegler could be the performance of the year and these swims are right up there with Michael Phelps swims from World Championships. If this swim was done not tapered or rested then we may see more of a time drop in two months at Nationals in Indy. This swim is faster than what Mike Burton and Rick De Mont swam back in 1972. I had the pleasure of timing during this swim. Not for her lane, but in the lane next to her. That was the first time I have ever seen a world record swim in person and it was something I won't soon forget. Early in the race it was clear something special was going to happen and everyone there got behind her to cheer her on. It was AMAZING! Kevin

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Jeff Commings — Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:49:12 GMT

Must have been amazing to watch, Kevin. Witnessing your first world record swim is a great thing. My first one was watching Jenny Thompson take down the East German 100 free world record in 1992 at the Olympic Trials. Based on her 400 and 800, I didn't think she'd be close to breaking 16 minutes. I guess those two swims, as well as her awesome 56+ 100 free, were just warmups. I seriously doubt she was broken down. She went 11 seconds slower at worlds, when she was supposedly tapered. The mile will be offered for women at nationals this summer, but I would imagine training for the mile will help her 800 next year.

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ande — Mon, 18 Jun 2007 10:12:16 GMT

eddie told me this today after practice he said she'd been training at altitude for the last 24 days quite an amazing swim ande Kate Ziegler swam to her first World Record of her career by knocking off almost 10 seconds of the oldest World Record in swimming. Janet Evans time of 15:52.10 was set back in 1988. Janet Evans still has one World Record (800 FR LCM) and two American Records (400 - 800 FR LCM) still standing. I believe the 800 Free will be the last one to go. This swim by Ziegler could be the performance of the year and these swims are right up there with Michael Phelps swims from World Championships. If this swim was done not tapered or rested then we may see more of a time drop in two months at Nationals in Indy. This swim is faster than what Mike Burton and Rick De Mont swam back in 1972.

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Frank Thompson — Mon, 18 Jun 2007 08:10:44 GMT

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Former Member — Sun, 10 Dec 2006 14:27:50 GMT

I am in absolute awe at swimming times today. How in the world do these people do such things? I know it isn't magic. Donna :dunno: They do everything just a bit better than the "other guy". They don't have a magic catch or some super propulsive kick but they master every little aspect of the stroke and the race to make it seem mind boggling to those of us who watch in awe. All of the factors (talent, physical build, coaching, effort put forth by the swimmer, etc) come into alignment at the right time to give us swimmers like Ziegler, Phelps, Hansen, etc..

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Former Member — Sun, 10 Dec 2006 14:14:55 GMT

I am in absolute awe at swimming times today. How in the world do these people do such things? I know it isn't magic. Donna :dunno:

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Former Member — Sun, 10 Dec 2006 13:57:46 GMT

Sounds like an exciting meet with some incredibly fast swims. You are very fortunate to have such talent in your neighborhood.

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Former Member — Sun, 10 Dec 2006 09:44:02 GMT

Thanks Frank, I really enjoyed the Finis Website with the video. Thanks again!

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The Fortress — Sun, 10 Dec 2006 08:33:16 GMT

Kate Zeigler did it again! She smashed her own American Record in the 1000 free by over three seconds, swimming to a 9:21.55! (Previous record 9:24.80.) :banana: Here are her splits (hope I wrote them down and typed them correctly). They will be on the www.pvswim.org website tomorrow morning if you want to check. 53.43 1:49.74 2:46.28 3:42.90 4:39.48 5:36.19 6:33.66 7:30.66 8:27.26 9:21.57. She also broke the pool record in the 100 free with a 49.78. I would note that the 16 year old who placed second with a 51.25 was only 5'2" tall and very petite. Our other local hero, Tom Koucheravy (PanPac team member) swam to a 15:01.71 in the 1650 free, breaking his own pool record. All the fastest swimmers in fly and back spent a lot of time underwater SDK-ing. Some 14 year kid swam a 47.4 in the 100 free. What a fast meet!!!

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Former Member — Sun, 10 Dec 2006 07:27:05 GMT

I couldn't have said that better, scyfreestyler!!! This kind of reminds me of people who "go by charts" rather than actual performance based results. So when swimmers come around and swim outside of the "norm" or "chart", some people then decide that this is now the "best new way" and, once again, things get changed up. Kinda similar to how the health people say this food is good for you, then years later, it is actually bad for you, and on and on, thus confusing everyone about what they should eat/not eat :blah::blah::blah:. Kate is fast and she is large, I am impressed. Donna

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Former Member — Sun, 10 Dec 2006 07:18:43 GMT

She just swam a 4:34.0 in the 500 free tonight at the Dolan meet. It was a treat to watch her. She got a huge ovation. My daughter's coach made her counts Kate's SPL. It was 17 every single length. Quite a high stroke rate for some one who's, I think, 6'2". I think she has great long course potential because she has great rhythm and her turns, while very good, were not perfect. She also, as others probably know, does "cross train" by regularly going to PT to keep her shoulders and other stuff together. She's swimming the 1000 tomorrow. This reinforces my belief that SPL is an often over used analysis of a swimmer. Surely if her SPL was 22 she would not be the swimmer she is but I think that a persons overall performance is a much better indicator as to whether they are doing things "right" or not.

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The Fortress — Sat, 09 Dec 2006 09:34:57 GMT

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Former Member — Fri, 08 Dec 2006 16:45:55 GMT

Long Course or Short Course, a record is a record and she's breaking them. Congrats to her for putting in the work to make this happen.

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FlyQueen — Fri, 08 Dec 2006 12:02:27 GMT

I am well aware of that. If you notice in the first sentence I made reference to American Record and not World Record. Janet still has all of the American Records and both the 800 and 1500 Free World Records. You are correct about the broken 400 Free LCM record. Relax ... I was just clarifying ...

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Frank Thompson — Fri, 08 Dec 2006 11:26:34 GMT

Laure Mandadou (spelling?) broke the 400 record this summer ... I am well aware of that. If you notice in the first sentence I made reference to American Record and not World Record. Janet still has all of the American Records and both the 800 and 1500 Free World Records. You are correct about the broken 400 Free LCM record.

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FlyQueen — Fri, 08 Dec 2006 11:19:46 GMT

Kate Ziegler broke another one of Janet Evans American Records. Could this be the start of seeing the 4:03, the 8:16, and the 15:52 Long Course Free records being broken next year? These records are 16 - 17 years plus and counting. www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/.../12963.asp Laure Mandadou (spelling?) broke the 400 record this summer ...

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Dennis Tesch — Fri, 08 Dec 2006 11:06:39 GMT

What an awesome 1650 swim. This girl is swimming fantastic!!! Her splits on the 1650 were - 53.62 (100), 1:49.89 (200), 4:40.84 (500), 9:27.32 (1000), 14:13.74 (1500), and a 55.44 on the last 100. Her 2nd and 3rd 500 where 4:46. I have to call that a great swim. I look forward to seeing her swim the next two years as the 2008 Olympics approach.....:notworthy:

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Frank Thompson — Fri, 08 Dec 2006 10:44:25 GMT